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« Reply #400 on: January 03, 2010, 08:12:08 am »

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- One old engineering tool (to use for scribing)
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That looks like a surface gauge. I don't believe they're used for scribing; I'm not sure the point would stand up to it. I'm fairly certain (although I may be mistaken) that a surface gauge is used in conjunction with a surface plate (which is simply a large metal plate with a machined-flat surface) to obtain precise measurements of the height of various points on an object above the base plane. One places the object to be measured on the surface plate, lightly rests the point of the gauge on the top of the object, screws down the clamps, removes the object, and calipers the distance from the surface plate to the feeler point. The sharpened tip merely serves to provide the smallest possible point of contact, to eliminate errors from an uneven or sloping surface.

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« Reply #401 on: January 03, 2010, 06:03:06 pm »

Hallward you are SO lucky that I have a large head.

Whilst trawling the Camberwell market with fellow Antipodeans Hallward and Rowan of Rin (and meeting Sorontar and Horse Brass along the way) I manged to procure the following items...

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- One old working electric fan with exposed oscillating mechanism
- One old brass tube with wick inside
- Two tiny screwdrivers with brass collets (for the collets really)
- One glass syringe with cardboard tube
- One old tin of grease
- One black electrical plug (the one on the fan is white)
- Two brass coat hooks (to use for triggers)
- One old engineering tool (to use for scribing)
- And one amazing pair of mint condition white bakelite goggles with green lenses and original box, made for anti-aircraft gun use (only $20!!!)

Oh yes - and for my good lady wife...

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- One excellent condition adjustable dress makers dummy

A very good start to the year at Camberwell market.



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« Reply #402 on: January 03, 2010, 09:42:09 pm »

- One old engineering tool (to use for scribing)
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That looks like a surface gauge. I don't believe they're used for scribing; I'm not sure the point would stand up to it.

A surface gauge can most certainly be used for scribing. They can be used to transfer height information from a known sample to a part to be worked on. Usually, you would use a machinist's bluing compound on the item to be scribed. Once it dries, any sharp tool can be used to scratch off the bluing quite easily. Surface gauges have other uses, as well - holders for light measurement indicators, center marking on a cylindrical object, and quite a few other uses. Handy to have several about.
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« Reply #403 on: January 03, 2010, 10:57:25 pm »

Not truely a fleamarket find but today I picked up a new-in-box brass sextant for $19.99 USDollars.

That's not such a bad price for what is probably a reproduction from somewhere like India.

The market (and I mean both eBay and antique stores) seems to be filling up with 'antique style' brass sextants, compasses, telescopes, etc  - all in wooden boxes and all from India.

Where do they get all the brass to make all these reproductions?

well as of last year our current president of the US made a deal with china to sell all our spent brass ammunition ground up  instead of doing what they used to do and sell it to people here for relaoding ( you can relaod ammo safely a few times actually). Funny thing is he was getting mroe selling it to the reloaders back than,   than selling it to china now
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« Reply #404 on: January 05, 2010, 10:06:31 am »


Look what I found thrown out in Manhattan. It's a 1927 Bell and Howell Filmo silent movie projector, and it looks to be in decent shape

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« Reply #405 on: January 05, 2010, 10:28:22 am »

Amazing Will, an awesome find and I am glad you rescued it. If it ever needs a good home.....*hint hint*
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« Reply #406 on: January 05, 2010, 12:37:32 pm »

Lucky man!!!...What a find. It's unbelievable that people (or barbarian) throw something like that away.

(Maybe it's better like this, because now it has a loving and caring home  Smiley )


Congratz!

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« Reply #407 on: January 05, 2010, 01:40:48 pm »

Absolutely beautiful, old projectors were such wonders of engineering. I have a slightly later Bell and Howell projector, with a fantastic engine inspired design. I really should take a photo of it..
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« Reply #408 on: January 05, 2010, 01:54:22 pm »

Lucky man!!!...What a find. It's unbelievable that people (or barbarian) throw something like that away.

(Maybe it's better like this, because now it has a loving and caring home  Smiley )
Congratz!

Don't give me too much credit, I've already put it on Ebay.
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« Reply #409 on: January 05, 2010, 02:07:35 pm »

well thats much better than it ending up in a landfill or some such
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« Reply #410 on: January 05, 2010, 03:49:04 pm »

well thats much better than it ending up in a landfill or some such

Very true, I was reading the other day about someone who rescued one of the 480 or so remaining, intact, RCA Theremins from the dump when an owner who did not know what it was had left it at the curb for the trash collectors.   That would have been a terrible shame.    Fortunately he recognized it and, not having room for it, paid out of pocket to ship it to a collector he found the number for.
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« Reply #411 on: January 05, 2010, 03:55:18 pm »

Lucky man!!!...What a find. It's unbelievable that people (or barbarian) throw something like that away.

(Maybe it's better like this, because now it has a loving and caring home  Smiley )
Congratz!

Don't give me too much credit, I've already put it on Ebay.

Hmmm...okay, fallen for $'s instead of the ancient beauty. What a downer. 
But it still gets a loving and caring home though.
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« Reply #412 on: January 06, 2010, 01:26:38 am »

Lucky man!!!...What a find. It's unbelievable that people (or barbarian) throw something like that away.

(Maybe it's better like this, because now it has a loving and caring home  Smiley )
Congratz!

Don't give me too much credit, I've already put it on Ebay.

Hmmm...okay, fallen for $'s instead of the ancient beauty. What a downer.  
But it still gets a loving and caring home though.

Quite. And if no one rises to my $69 opening bid, I'll proudly display it myself.
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« Reply #413 on: January 06, 2010, 11:44:15 pm »

I went to a goodwill near the USC campus today. Found this for 10 dollars.





The clock mechanism doesn't move anymore, but the chimes work. Here's a video of it.




It was totally worth the 2 hours bus trip and mile walk.
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« Reply #414 on: January 08, 2010, 01:58:13 pm »

I went to a goodwill near the USC campus today. Found this for 10 dollars.


The clock mechanism doesn't move anymore, but the chimes work. Here's a video of it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31312651@N07/4251678713/#secret4bf8ab2bc0-w500-h375
It was totally worth the 2 hours bus trip and mile walk.

With all due respect to the memory of that magnificent clockworks, in a half hour I would reduce it to a box of usable gears and install an electric mechanism into the case.
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« Reply #415 on: January 08, 2010, 02:03:59 pm »

I went to a goodwill near the USC campus today. Found this for 10 dollars.





The clock mechanism doesn't move anymore, but the chimes work. Here's a video of it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31312651@N07/4251678713/#secret4bf8ab2bc0-w500-h375


It was totally worth the 2 hours bus trip and mile walk.



aww this is tooo cute,, i need to go to a flea market...


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« Reply #416 on: January 08, 2010, 06:09:59 pm »

Great find and I agree this should not be de-gearified.
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« Reply #417 on: January 08, 2010, 06:14:10 pm »

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« Reply #418 on: January 08, 2010, 08:17:02 pm »

The clock is very nice.

Maybe the spring is simply wound up too tight. Then it would be a shame to break it up. However i can understand Will's 'gear-greed'.
I have de-geared a lot of stuff in my life just to find out that it was better off in the position it came in.
I always must restrain myself not to break up things just for the zen of it.
Will however makes great stuff so he has already a purpose for it, that makes it even harder to resist.
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« Reply #419 on: January 08, 2010, 09:06:59 pm »

The clock is very nice.

Maybe the spring is simply wound up too tight. Then it would be a shame to break it up. However i can understand Will's 'gear-greed'.
I have de-geared a lot of stuff in my life just to find out that it was better off in the position it came in.
I always must restrain myself not to break up things just for the zen of it.
Will however makes great stuff so he has already a purpose for it, that makes it even harder to resist.

After inspecting many flea market clocks, I find that most of them suffer from worn out bushings. This is a condition that can only be remedied by a complex and expensive process of reconstruction. When you see an old clock for sale, inevitably the owner says it just needs cleaning to run properly. This is almost always nonsense. Even though an old clock looks great, if it has been ticking away on the mantle for 80 years it is just plain worn out.
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« Reply #420 on: January 08, 2010, 10:39:05 pm »

You are probably right. I don't know a lot about clocks, but indeed the clocks which are know that old are all made in mass production so they are likely not of the high quality of hand made ones.

But it still plays the Big Ben chime. Doesn't that count?  Smiley

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« Reply #421 on: January 08, 2010, 10:50:34 pm »

I have to agree with will...or more to the point the wife does. She hates it when I bring home things that don't work just because they are "old". But she would be cool with me putting an electric motor in it and putting it in a room on display and scavenging the gears and bits, as long as I didn't do it in the living room or on the ketchen table. (sigh...I wish I had a workshop or a basement or a secret lab hehe. Been thinking about adding a garage to our house just so I could have a room above it to tinker about in.)
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« Reply #422 on: January 09, 2010, 03:16:58 am »

Still haven't even lifted a tool at the poor clock. I like the idea of replacing it with an up-to-date mechanism inside, and going at it for the parts, but nah.

Once I find an even more complete, or working clock with gears and stuff inside, maybe then i'll go at it.

The chimes are gonna be my favorite piece from there though. Learning to play songs on it, and taking it to my bands live shows would be friggin awesome.
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« Reply #423 on: January 09, 2010, 01:48:04 pm »

Still haven't even lifted a tool at the poor clock. I like the idea of replacing it with an up-to-date mechanism inside, and going at it for the parts, but nah.

Once I find an even more complete, or working clock with gears and stuff inside, maybe then i'll go at it.

The chimes are gonna be my favorite piece from there though. Learning to play songs on it, and taking it to my bands live shows would be friggin awesome.


Watch this video clip, it shows what bushing wear looks like and will teach you what to look for when inspecting an old clock. Pull the slider up to the 6 minute mark to start, there is a lot of nonsense and self-promotion before that.
Dr. Time's Clock Repair-Part 1-Antique Clock OverhaulDQ
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« Reply #424 on: January 09, 2010, 04:48:35 pm »

Darn. I think it might have that. well, I'll look at it after this weekend's convention. Then, I'll try to report back on the situation.


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The main piece to turn the clock hands had been damaged. I found out about it after opening it up. I was lost cause. I kept the barrel with the etching to play the song. The rest of the pieces are gonna have to wait til after class tomorow.
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