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« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2007, 04:55:20 am » |
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How well does glycerin hold up to the tests of time? The tea I used got moldy  I was not surprized by this in the least, but it caused me to think (curse it!). Surely the microbes would like to feast on the sweet syrup? Looking it up, apparently it is edible for humans, at least. I assume one might want to sterilize the jar before putting it all in and such. Lysol-ing the object to be entombed might be wise, as well. |
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« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2007, 05:29:07 am » |
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My first suggestion, chlorine bleach added at "sterilizing" levels, might cause problems with the colors -
I don't know.
There is also a medical sterilizing solution (glutaraldehyde) marketed as "Cidex" and "Sporicidin" that is available at pharmacies (chemist's shops) and I am told, but have not experimented to know for certain, doesn't have the "bleach" effect on colors.
This stuff is available without prescription in the US as a sterilizing agent ( usually used inside clinical "sharps containers" prior to disposal )
A home-brewing shop might also be a source of sterilizing chemicals at a good price.
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« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2007, 07:36:56 pm » |
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I've used straight Glycerine and its lasted for about four years so far, and plain water with a wine making sterilizer in it (and its lack of reactions has surprised me!) I've just thought of a problem with vegetable oil, some i know go cloudy,olive oil for example, i'm not sure that sunflower dose though. Id say the jar needs to be airtight (i used the plastic "normal" seal and covered the gaps and the seal with sealing wax, which goes really hard and is fairly tough)and you need some sort of bug killer too (what about Baby's bottle sterilizing solution)...
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« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2007, 05:01:16 am » |
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Picture to arrive soon of a boredom-induced experiment... ( I found the Sculpey while waiting on-hold, yet again...)
BUT...... I did discover that iodine-based camper's water-purification tablets (about $3 a bottle at VoldeMart, or any outdoor emporium) can (theoretically, at least) kill microscopic creatures that may cause later difficulties (??)
as well as giving plain tapwater a lovely somewhat-murky brownish "formalin" appearance. 2 tiny tablets to a large jar requires no additional colorant, it does not appear to attack the paint/varnish (note: this is only a 4 hour-old result) and it should keep 'critters" at bay.
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« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2007, 07:28:47 pm » |
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good idea, iodine is nasty stuff to bugs etc..another suggestion is salt, a strong solution would definitely stop any green algae etc. But and ferrous metals would suffer!
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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2007, 03:21:42 am » |
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Ooh, what fun! I have things in jars, but they are all real snakes in methylated spirits, rather than these marvellous creatures.
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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2007, 12:59:28 pm » |
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Although not 'jarred', I think my dried lizard is worth a mention...
As I live in a tropical region, there's no short supply of frogs, toads, lizards, snakes and other creepy crawlies. One day I found a dead lizard, it was about 20cm long, but what I found interesting was that it had a very short tail. I knew the type of lizard (I have 'm in my house all the time), and they're supposed to have tails at least their body-length. Apparently the poor creature lost its tail earlier. Perhaps to a close encounter with a cat or a dog, and his new tail just barely started to regrow. It looked like the vestigial tail some animals have.
I did not know what caused his death, but as he was completely intact, I assumed it was rat poison or another nasty chemical of sorts. I thought it would make a cool 'freak item' once dried, but since I'm a big wuss, I didn't want to take it inside and remove the organs and whatnot. So I did the properly wussy thing I flung the critter up on my roof, where I knew it would be save from cats and ants and the like, and with a bit of luck, no bird would find it either. In the meantime it would find plenty of hot tropical sun there to bake in.
It's not the best way to dry and preserve a specimen, that's for sure, but it did work. Sortof. The lizard turned an evil looking dark-brown and the skin got all hard and wrinkly looking. It was pretty cool, but I knew the organs wouldn't dry so fast and would probably cause the thing to rot eventually anyway, so I didn't really bother to take it inside later on...
When I get back home, I'll see if it'sstill there and then I'll take some pictures.
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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2007, 01:36:52 am » |
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Hmmm, I wonder how much effort it would take to make an animated Thing-In-A-Jar? Perhaps using the motor and motion sensor from one of those silly Billy the Bass wallplaques, the sensor bit hidden in the cap/lid of the jar and the motor inside whatever grisly specimen you happened upon on your journeys into the Darkest Orient, set to make it twitch when someone hurries past... But then a certain amount of liquid-proofing would have to be done (unless the liquid is jettisoned in favour of tinted and/or warped glass). Too much trouble for its worth?
There is a zoology department in the local university, replete with a macabre "zoology corridor". Therein resides a veritable menagerie of creatures great, small and weird in various jars, containers, cases, states of decay, etc. If this fine weather persists, I may have a wander over and take some reference photos.
For some time now, I have had the notion of cheaply buying an old ceramic vase, install a small battery operated mechanism inside and plug the opening somehow, painting/treating it to closely resemble the rest of the vase. My ultimate aim is to end up with something that looks like it hasn't been opened in a very long time, and yet there is something inside tapping and scratching, searching for a way out... I will at the very least incorporate this into a short story, as it has been circulating inside my head for quite a while now.
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« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2007, 09:52:25 am » |
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Humm what about "Memory wire" bend it one way and heat and it returns to its original position... ive no experience of it but it has possibilities... im envisaging a "thing" in a jar which stands on top of a light (rather like a "lava lamp")
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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2007, 07:58:18 pm » |
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Hmmm, I wonder how much effort it would take to make an animated Thing-In-A-Jar? Perhaps using the motor and motion sensor from one of those silly Billy the Bass wallplaques, the sensor bit hidden in the cap/lid of the jar and the motor inside whatever grisly specimen you happened upon on your journeys into the Darkest Orient, set to make it twitch when someone hurries past... But then a certain amount of liquid-proofing would have to be done (unless the liquid is jettisoned in favour of tinted and/or warped glass). Too much trouble for its worth?
Hmmm, I love this idea! And, actually, liquid-proofing may not be necessary at all. Many folks in the computer over-clocking world submerge their entire PCs in mineral oil (for cooling) with no issues. The whole "water and electricity don't mix" thing is so ingrained in most us that it's hard to get one's mind around it being OK! It seems most comon oils (vegetable, peanut) are non-conductive, but mineral is favoured for its tendancy to not go rancid... May I blow your mind further? Pure H 2O isn't conductive either--it's only the minerals dissolved in "normal" water that make it so. Crazy, eh? So one could, if so inclined, suspend their twitching specimen in distilled water! |
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« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2007, 07:31:49 pm » |
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What about magnets!... An articulated "thing" with magnets inside it, effected by the action of magnets on the outside of the jar.... one could get a snake or eel to swim!
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« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2007, 09:19:15 pm » |
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Jack, distilled water will pick up minerals and such very easily from the hardware and become conductive in time, I think. I suggest caution, and re-filtering/re-distilling if you want your hardware submerged for any appreciable length of time.
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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2007, 09:34:27 pm » |
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Well...
If it were me, and I wanted a nono-moving "thing" in my jar, I'd look at some clear casting resin, suitably tinted (think of the fake water look you can now get in vases of artifical flowers)
The downside is that its permanent once you pour, no hope ever of getting your "thing" out..
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« Reply #63 on: May 25, 2007, 04:08:24 pm » |
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Yes, trouble is its horribly expensive....
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« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2007, 04:14:22 pm » |
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« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2007, 04:20:00 pm » |
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Mind you if you mix it with a little too much hardener, it cracks and gives a rather nice "encased in ice" look....9as long as you don't put way too much in , in which case its explodes/smokes or bursts into flames!
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« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2007, 05:22:37 pm » |
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Two jars, smaller one inside the larger one, liquid in the gap between?
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« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2007, 08:05:14 pm » |
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or... encase the "thing" in a sealed condom and sink it in the jar...
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« Reply #68 on: May 30, 2007, 03:30:21 am » |
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Not sure if it has been posted but this might help as reference/inspiration - as it does contain pictures of medical exhibits those of a sensitive disposition should look away now. The ghoulish and merely curious can get stuck right in: www.gadling.com/2007/05/23/weird-things-people-keep-in-jars/ |
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« Reply #69 on: May 30, 2007, 03:49:04 am » |
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as it does contain pictures of medical exhibits those of a sensitive disposition should look away now.
Whew--you ain't kiddin'! I think of myself as pretty un-squeamish, but DAMN!!! The piranha, octopus, and cyclops pig were just as scream-inducing as the human bits... ::Shudder:: I kind of like that monkey though, for some reason. He looks so wise and serene... Still wouldn't want to be in the same room with it more than once, but the photo's nice! |
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« Reply #70 on: May 30, 2007, 04:24:38 am » |
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 | We beg leave to suggest that readers consider the celebrated collection of Philadelphia's Mutter Museum.
The National Museum of Health and Medicine, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, likewise exhibits specimens of a medical and pathological nature: NMHM
We caution the faint of heart that images herein displayed may be disturbing to sensitive natures. |
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« Reply #71 on: May 30, 2007, 12:29:25 pm » |
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 WOW! Superb collection...  Not sure I like all the "normal" stuff in jars but the other stuff is excellent!... 
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« Reply #72 on: May 30, 2007, 03:32:10 pm » |
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We beg leave to suggest that readers consider the celebrated collection of Philadelphia's Mutter Museum. Could I also recommend the book of the same name. I have a modest collection of books on medical abnormalities and this is by far the best - superb photographs of (if you'll excuse my language) gob-smacking items (including various things in jars), all on high quality paper in a large format. Possibly not for anyone who thought the previous link was a little too rich for their blood but for everyone else get stuck in. |
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« Reply #73 on: May 30, 2007, 04:00:45 pm » |
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and for those of a medical bent... http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/747Anomalies and Curiosities of Medicine by George M. Gould and Walter Lytle Pyle short on jars, but scream out load scary... i mean black heads as big as your fist? |
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« Reply #74 on: May 30, 2007, 09:16:51 pm » |
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