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Author Topic: Post-Industrial/Neofolk Music  (Read 3696 times)
Edisonade
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« on: March 13, 2007, 03:54:49 am »

While not perfectly in tune with the steampunk vibe, I would have to say that Post-industrial (also called Neofolk) is probably the closest to a fitting musical style there is.  I've given Abney Park a listen, and really failed to see what makes them a "Steampunk" band, other than the costuming.  Neofolk, while often more interested in The Great War or ancient traditions than the Victorian period, has an atmosphere of strange nostalgia that fits very well with the steam ethos.  It is a genre that grapples with an uncertain, often terrible past, at once glorifying and denouncing it.  It is a uniquely European and highly anachronistic attitude with a sound that blends industrial beats and crunch with a folk sensibility.  In other words, check this stuff out, some of it may tickle your fancy.

Here are some free samplers to explore, if you are so inclined:

http://neo-form.de/sampler/Neofolk-Sampler/portal.html
http://sampler2.neo-form.de/index.htm
http://www.neo-folk.it/productions/productions.htm

A word of warning:  While some of this stuff is truly exceptional, a lot of it is fairly uncreative, and not especially interesting.  Sifting the wheat from the chaff may take a little bit of effort, but finding a gem is well worth it.
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 05:14:08 am »

You mention that there's chaff to be sifted through. That's typically the case with samplers - which tunes would you suggest we look for?
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Edisonade
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 05:42:48 am »

You mention that there's chaff to be sifted through. That's typically the case with samplers - which tunes would you suggest we look for?


From the samplers listed above, I'm rather partial to the following groups:
Der Feuerkreiner
Arditi
Cold Fusion
Die Macht
Varunna
The Green Man
The Well of Sadness
Laufeyair Sonr
Heiliges Licht
Praetorio
Spiritual Front
H.E.R.R.
Division S
Ghosts of Breslau
Atomtrakt
Nemodog

I would also strongly recommend checking out the band Westwind (http://www.myspace.com/ventdouest) and listening to some other Der Feuerkreiner (http://www.derfeuerkreiner.it/ and www.myspace.com/derfeuerkreiner).  Sadly, the stuff on the samplers is the worst work I've heard from them.




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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 10:57:45 am »

To this,

I am extremely interested in this resurgence of electro-folk (Am at work and unable to listen to the links, perhaps they are similar).

Think the last 2 tracks of "Dig Your Own Hole" by Chemical Brothers meets Simon and Garfunkel with a touch of NIN, and you have what I am talking about.

See:

Tunng (this is one of my favorite bands right now)
Mahogany (the album "Connectivity!" is specifically the one I am talking about, but their earlier works show this same style of influence)
BT (not his dance-music stuff, but his latest album is quite spectacular)
AIR (Pocket Symphony is amazing, but some of their earlier work express this as well)

And from a purely acoustic standpoint, the new Sting album "Tales from the Labyrinth" is equally amazing. 

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 02:54:23 am »

I am quite familiar with Neo/Apocalyptic-Folk music, and while I se where you're coming from, it doesn't really make me think of Steampunk usually.

Bands like The Protagonist, and In the Nursery are the closest thing to that genre that I think remind me of Steampunk.

Out of curiosity, have you given my music a listen? I saw you checked out Abney Park, but I'm curious if you felt I captured ome amount of Steampunk in my sound? I tried very hard to do just that.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 04:11:45 am »

I am quite familiar with Neo/Apocalyptic-Folk music, and while I se where you're coming from, it doesn't really make me think of Steampunk usually.

Bands like The Protagonist, and In the Nursery are the closest thing to that genre that I think remind me of Steampunk.

Out of curiosity, have you given my music a listen? I saw you checked out Abney Park, but I'm curious if you felt I captured ome amount of Steampunk in my sound? I tried very hard to do just that.

I actually had not when the original post was written.  Between then and now, I've heard a few tracks, and I must say that I like what I hear.  And yes, I did get the steam vibe off of it.  Perhaps not as much as others, but that is simply a matter of personal interpretation, rather than any sort of judgment on the quality of your work.  The track you did for Zeitguys was especially good.  In fact, I'm off to go listen to some more of your music right now.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 05:31:10 am »

Cool man.. glad you connected with my work.

http://www.movementproductions.net/mp3/vp

Go there and you can find two zip files with about 150 MB worth of music for your listening pleasure.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 05:40:07 am »

Downloading as we speak and I must confess it is some of the best atmospheric music i've heard in awhile. Then again I'm writing a bit of steampunk tom-foolery so it's helped keep me in the period. but I've a feeling this music will in general go over well.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 06:02:03 am »

Awesome. Yeah there is a folder of covers I did of Final Fantasy themes, and some tracks from my side project "formsunknown" (a kind of dark ambient project based on H.P. Lovecraft and classic Gothic Horror Literature).
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 06:11:50 am »

I really like the music. But the vocals on some of your songs sound just a bit off to me. Not bad, necessarily, but just not jiving with the sound quite right. I've mostly just listened to the album with all the covers though. It might just be that I listen to Joy Division so much that no cover will ever sound quite right to me. But overall, I like what you're doing.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 06:28:26 am »

Oh no I agree. My vocals aren't too great (at least not on the older songs). The most recent vox I did I think came out pretty good though. "A Day", "The Last Express", "King's Cross", i.e.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2007, 11:10:35 am »

wow...this this neo-folk is  interesting....I wonder if they did covers of classical pieces...not another bad bad carmina burana cover mind you, I mean like covers of goterdamerung, or something short and sweet like paganini's 5th caprice, or some LULLY!
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2007, 09:17:39 pm »

neofolk also, unfortunately, has been heavily (and sometimes misappropriately) associated with nazi/fascist beliefs.

there is an interesting thread - http://www.side-line.com/forum/threads.php?id=16633_0_20_0_C
in which various bands are outed for white-power beliefs.

that said... I'm quite fond of neo-folk. And hell, as an avid listener of Black Metal, I certainly mean no bones of contention with those who are proponents of neo-folk (black metal also having a rather spotty history, politically speaking).

its sad to see so much of paganism mired with so much of fascism... although I find this much more prevelant in europe than in the united states.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2007, 11:53:47 pm »

ok, listened to the stuff you guys posted earlier.... it is nothing like what I had posted.


which makes me wonder, what about this music is "folk"?


I listen to folk and expect bluegrass through hippie music, mostly accoustic, mostly story-telling.  Folk mostly has an appalachian influence (for me)

not to sound like a jerk, but the music posted first had none of those elements.  It had the "neo" part, but I found nothing that caused this music to stand out from symphonic metal and the gothic sound from the early to mid 90s.   What about this makes it "folk"?
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 12:06:24 am »

It's folk, because it's mostly regional. Most of these bands are reviving long dead traditions of their various cultures. That's mainly where the pagan tie in comes from. It is Eastern European folk for the most part. Not Eastern American folk.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 06:38:15 am »

yeah, folk is a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Personally, my folk tastes are to more european styles, particularly sad gypsy, czech accordions, (well really, ANY accordions that aren't too happy), and away from the more bluegrass american stuff. And having singer/songwriter pop stars like bob dylan (whose music I like) referred to as folk irks me, though mostly I just keep quiet about it.
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