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« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2008, 01:36:41 pm » |
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Who do you think he parodied in that movie?  Besides I think the one in the movie was made out of trash cans. I knew that, was just making fun of his armor. Love Yahoos work and had to bring it up  |
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« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2008, 04:36:33 pm » |
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when the spanish began to explore and conquer the new world in earnest, they also sent over some of the out of use armor for the troops dealing with the indigent militias.
firearms, while still crude, were becoming the norm in europe and most standing armies had fazed out most of the armor in favor of just standardized uniforms.
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against stone and bronze weapons, a good breast plate and helm made the small units of spanish soldiers almost invincible.
add matchlocks and disease to the formula and the new world didn't stand a chance.
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« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2008, 07:06:28 pm » |
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Well at least if she´s ever at the beach and someone start shooting arrows at her, she´s got a good chance of surviving. Dont be silly Atterton, chainmail is useless against arrows Which is why she wears her full plate stuff when at the beach  Oh, well naturally. That looks much more practical.  |
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« Reply #80 on: January 17, 2008, 03:49:06 pm » |
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That's exactly the site I was looking at.
At the moment I use Armchair Armoury which is a) British (so close to me) but b) restrictive on what it sells (no anodized stuff).
Having found the Ringlord, they seem cheaper than Armchair, even taking into account overseas shipping.
I may order one of their taster kits to see how it goes.
Totally agree on the leaf scales, they could easilly look awesome on some armour.
Yes, I've always found armchair to be very good indeed, I feel it's important to support UK suppliers. That said given the exchange rate I would be tempted by the scalemail just to try it out. |
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« Reply #81 on: January 17, 2008, 05:02:19 pm » |
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The ability to move rapidly and use guns well outweighs the protection given by a tin suit. When the healer has been sliced in twain and a pack of hungry looking demons are closing in on you, it's amazing just how fast you can move in several kilos of metal. Suppose it all comes down to the fact that as nice as the protection is against spears, the more clothing and armour the bullet pushes into your body, the harder it is to remove it all. Take this chainmail bikini. I never get tired of seeing those.  As someone that wore full plate for 10 hours a day for 4 days, the weight itself is not the problem. You can run, jump I've even seen someone cartwheel. If your harness is fitted correctly the weight is spread over the body. Heat on the other hand is the problem. Its gets very hot and sweaty in there. |
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« Reply #82 on: January 17, 2008, 05:06:41 pm » |
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Heh, but with steam punk you can put fans and cooling into it.  |
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« Reply #83 on: January 17, 2008, 10:59:26 pm » |
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hahaha a set of liquid-cooled plate armor would be great!
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« Reply #84 on: January 17, 2008, 11:02:50 pm » |
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The ability to move rapidly and use guns well outweighs the protection given by a tin suit. When the healer has been sliced in twain and a pack of hungry looking demons are closing in on you, it's amazing just how fast you can move in several kilos of metal. Suppose it all comes down to the fact that as nice as the protection is against spears, the more clothing and armour the bullet pushes into your body, the harder it is to remove it all. Take this chainmail bikini. I never get tired of seeing those. As someone that wore full plate for 10 hours a day for 4 days, the weight itself is not the problem. You can run, jump I've even seen someone cartwheel. If your harness is fitted correctly the weight is spread over the body. Heat on the other hand is the problem. Its gets very hot and sweaty in there. I'm only familiar with wearing Japanese armor myself, but I have to agree. The weight is really not all that bad, quite contrary to popular believe. The heat... yeah... after wearing a full set of armor for a full day during a parade in 30 degrees C. I can safely say it gets pretty damn hot, sweaty and itchy in places utterly impossible to reach! |
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« Reply #85 on: January 17, 2008, 11:46:22 pm » |
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Ditto for a full hauberk of mail. That padded jack (the thick quilted tunic worn under the mail) really gets stinky. But a 40-60lb suit is still pretty easy to wear, even if it's a fiend to don and doff. And all that mass makes for the most fantastic shield charges.
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« Reply #86 on: January 18, 2008, 12:11:51 am » |
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In my experience, mail is worse than plate when it comes to perceived weight... with plate, the mass of the metal is distributed over the body; with mail, it's all hanging from your shoulders and belt*. Mail is also a fabulous insulator, especially with another layer over it. I've worn a steel haubergeon under a wool tunic and been ever-so-toasty warm, even in sub-freezing weather.
*Except that one time I forgot to pack a belt... Egad, were my shoulders sore...
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« Reply #87 on: January 18, 2008, 12:44:16 am » |
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More important, in a full set of armour, you don't even feel that little porksticker in your hand. Three pounds of steel? Pah, that's forty pounds of mail on my belt and shoulders!
My LARP dealer has a leftover stock of 8,500 rings with 6 millimetres inner diameter... makes me think of making such a thing for a certain person...
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« Reply #88 on: January 18, 2008, 04:00:05 am » |
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Armour is but an illusion.... My middle brother bought his then gf a nightie made of chainmail. I would be wearing a leather bikini under that, at least! added to the weight and heat of the armour is all the stuff you need to wear under it to protect yourself from jamming little bits of you in the joints.  |
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« Reply #89 on: January 18, 2008, 10:20:11 am » |
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Ok I'll be the wierd person. Armour does slow you down. Espeacially if you prefer diving aside than just stepping aside (this seems silly but people get wierded out when you jump 6 feet in the oppisite direction they just fired in). When you're talking about steampunk it should either be light and nearly invisible (nearly since the whole point is to show it off) or super heavy like the kelley armor only better. LXG also has a heavy steampunk armor just before Hyde and Nemo are about to fight the super hyde wannabe.
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« Reply #90 on: January 18, 2008, 10:30:22 am » |
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yeah the company i used to work for made that armor in LXG and also the plate armor worn by M's foot soldiers with regards to chain mail my girl friend wears a chainmail bratop and miniskirt which are half rubber O rings and half aluminium so the rubber holds it away from the skin so its not cold and it waighs half the amount of a full metal garment
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« Reply #91 on: January 19, 2008, 03:51:38 am » |
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As for steampunk armour, I think anything with leather and brass is the way to go... but some sort of Faraday Suit might be wise if you're going up against an enemy with Tesla Rifles.
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« Reply #92 on: January 19, 2008, 04:12:45 am » |
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As for steampunk armour, I think anything with leather and brass is the way to go... but some sort of Faraday Suit might be wise if you're going up against an enemy with Tesla Rifles.
Or the terribly modern 'Taser' plastic monstrosities! has anyone else seen those Faraday t-shirts, i guess you'd call them? |
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« Reply #93 on: January 19, 2008, 04:44:54 am » |
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I might just make my own breastplate. Sheet steel with brass embellishments riveted on...
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« Reply #94 on: January 19, 2008, 06:14:09 pm » |
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 I found this while I was browsing devaintART, it shows how the aluminum/rubber chain mail works... |
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« Reply #95 on: January 20, 2008, 05:32:31 pm » |
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I found this while I was browsing devaintART, it shows how the aluminum/rubber chain mail works... I would agree that it works in a most delicious manner! DB |
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« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2008, 07:38:26 am » |
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This: http://www.videosift.com/video/Dragon-Skin is basically a copy of this: , but is nonetheless feasible I suppose. |
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« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2008, 11:45:45 am » |
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A bevor would be highly steampunkable and relatively easy to fabricate out of thin steel. It was used in the middle ages to protect the throat and lower half of the face. They are pretty damn cool looking just by themselves, although of limited practical value that way. They are supposed to be combined with a salet or burgonet type helmet to protect the rest of the head. A nice and easy pattern for a bevor can be found hereA lot of other interesting medieval patterns that are screaming to be steampunked are here. Now picture that bevor combined with an appropriate pickelhaube for the steamy inclined, or with a WWII German helmet style for the dieselpunk fans. Mmm, heavy infantry goooood... |
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« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2008, 02:34:58 pm » |
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They are supposed to be combined with a salet or burgonet type helmet to protect the rest of the head. ...or a Kettle hat! |
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« Reply #99 on: March 03, 2008, 02:39:03 pm » |
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