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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2007, 04:36:01 am »
Hmm. Haven't seen Steamboy, actually, so I don't know. I heard very disappointing things about it. But ultimately I'll have to see it anyway - I can't dismiss any movie that looks like that, no matter how bad the reviews.

Glad to hear im not the only one who didnt like it. I just thought it was akin to heresy to say so in this forum.

Back to the topic:

I cannot believe that I forgot this example of victorian era bulletproof body armour.

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/collections/treasures/kellyarmour1.html

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2007, 04:37:28 am »
That is one ugly armour.
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2007, 04:40:20 am »
That is one ugly armour.

Maybe but it did work.

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2007, 05:08:24 am »
ok, are we talking about victorian era armour? or steampunk armour? in my mind these are 3 completely different things. Victorian armour is of course light plate fading to mostly leather clothing. Steampunk armour sounds more like steam powered exoskeletal anthropomorphic augmented mecha, cog shaped scale, and bulletproof carbon reinforced bowler hat. YMMV
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2007, 05:16:48 am »
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back to the topic at hand. I like the idea of padded leather with some gearing at the joints. The occasional sprocket poking out wouldn't hurt either.
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2007, 08:50:59 am »
That is one ugly armour.

Maybe but it did work.
Except he forgot to armour his lower legs, and if a man can't walk, he sure as hell can't run away from the guys shooting him.

The heavy armour in steam boy does seem to be steam powered power-armour, I've only skimmed through it (ie had it on in the background and not paid too much attention to it), but I will be re-watching it at some point over christmas.

I Like the idea of brass plates on a tan jacket for something by way of a SP-style flak vest.
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2007, 08:56:17 am »
There´s some people in long coats and armour in the beginning of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie.

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2007, 10:08:14 am »
I just remembered the cuirassiers.  They were certainly wearing plate armour at the end of the 19th century, and even in the early 20th.
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2007, 10:33:25 am »
There´s some people in long coats and armour in the beginning of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie.
Quite correct
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/MStoddard/PDVD_089.jpg
Looks like it's in banded segments to allow some degree torso bending (which the armour of the Cuirassiers looks like it might restrict)

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2007, 08:05:43 pm »
ok, are we talking about victorian era armour? or steampunk armour? in my mind these are 3 completely different things. Victorian armour is of course light plate fading to mostly leather clothing. Steampunk armour sounds more like steam powered exoskeletal anthropomorphic augmented mecha, cog shaped scale, and bulletproof carbon reinforced bowler hat. YMMV

I mentioned it as a point of reference, to show that body armour did exist that could stop victorian era firearms (albeit black powder "cap & ball" revolvers).

Except he forgot to armour his lower legs, and if a man can't walk, he sure as hell can't run away from the guys shooting him.

I Like the idea of brass plates on a tan jacket for something by way of a SP-style flak vest.

Well I never said it was practical  ;D

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2007, 03:39:59 am »
sorry robo, my comment was in general, not in response to a specific comment. just wanted to make sure I wasn't confused. Im an SCA guy too so when people start talking about period this and that I get defensive. knee jerk ya know. but I have always kinda seen steampunk as being post Victorian in a way that is more brass and less silicon. again YMMV.

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2007, 12:42:50 am »
Lest we forget!

The victorian era was full of hopeless romantics (as opposed to today?) and as such a revival of the more appealing aspects of chivalry came about. And with it, a renewed interest with the armour of the period as well. Unfortunately, this led to a bastardization of many legitimate historical styles in the interest of mass-producing "reproduction" suits. Luckily, the world of [medieval european] armour was not completely lost to us moderns thanks in large part to a handful of collectors and other purists of the day.

The most common piece of armour to escape the most modifications was the cuirass (note that the term is hilariously pronounced queer-ass), a term used to describe the combination breast/back-plate and the root word of the aptly named cuirassiers. Many of these were made for parades and other such military displays, but a good number of them were produced for function as well.

So! Keeping all this in mind, I think that any armour bits from the late 15th cent. onwards would not be inappropriate. Helmets, gauntlets, and just about any form of chest protection is fair game, either straight from the period or a stylized redux of a historical peice would be acceptable as both were fashionable at one time or another. Materials choice is of course up to you.

Here's a link to a site of 20 some-odd pages of what I believe to be a combination of historical pieces and attempts at faithful reproductions:
http://sl-armours.com/eng/viewpatterns/page,1/patterns-of-arms-and-armour.html

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2007, 01:10:15 am »
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Needs copper plating!  ;D
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2008, 07:35:41 pm »
That'd be chilly on a cold morning  ::)
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2008, 08:14:11 pm »
I don't know, sadly, and to my regret, I didn't study that period history at school.
I know, well believe, that the Victorians originated some terms that we use for armour; Banded Mail (a hybrid of leather and chain), Platemail (a hybrid of plate and chain), Scalemail (an alternative term for scale armour).


actually i do believe thats from D&D.
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2008, 08:26:12 pm »
surely a good firm slap with a linen glove should suffice until I am firmly esconsed in my steam-fighting man?
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2008, 09:39:57 pm »
Well, yes of course. You're thinking of metal fatigue, right?

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2008, 09:47:20 pm »
I cannot believe that I forgot this example of victorian era bulletproof body armour.

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/collections/treasures/kellyarmour1.html

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2008, 09:49:49 pm »
Who do you think he parodied in that movie?  ;) Besides I think the one in the movie was made out of trash cans.

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2008, 02:17:20 am »
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Jogging could be a little problematical...

Less so than usual, actually. The thing is insanely supportive -- it holds them rigidly in place. So jogging would be easier at the time, but they'd probably be sore afterward from such restraint.

Now that I think of it, jogging may be the only application for which the garment is actually practical (besides as an ogle-magnet).

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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2008, 02:59:21 am »
I don't know, sadly, and to my regret, I didn't study that period history at school.
I know, well believe, that the Victorians originated some terms that we use for armour; Banded Mail (a hybrid of leather and chain), Platemail (a hybrid of plate and chain), Scalemail (an alternative term for scale armour).


actually i do believe thats from D&D.

The D&D folks were referencing old 20th century texts that drew heavily from Victorian terminology, IIRC.
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Re: Steam Punk Armour?
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2008, 03:09:53 am »
Love that Kelly Armor Bismark.