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chicar
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« on: April 01, 2020, 11:12:50 pm »

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The word pagan came from paganus , who mean peasant . Its was a way to significate than christianism was the religion of the elite and paganism the one of the savage worker class.

''Trickster shows us how we trick OURSELVES. Her rampant curiosity backfires, but, then, something NEW is discovered (though usually not what She expected)! This is where creativity comes from—experiment, do something different, maybe even something forbidden, and voila! A breakthrough occurs! Ha! Ha! We are released! The world is created anew! Do something backwards, break your own traditions, the barrier breaks; destroy the world as you know it, let the new in.''
Extract of the Dreamflesh article ''Path of The Sacred Clown''
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 11:42:32 pm »

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Had to quote this so I could actually read it more easily xD
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2020, 10:53:10 am »

I've never heard the monkey or the stick lines before. The version I know is
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2020, 01:02:29 pm »

What's a weasel?
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2020, 03:15:34 pm »

What's a weasel?
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It's like a stoat & to tell the difference is...1 is weaselonably recognisable and the other is stoatly different.

Weasel

In English-speaking areas, weasel can be an insult, noun or verb, for someone regarded as sneaky, conniving or untrustworthy. Similarly, "weasel words" is a critical term for words or phrasing that are vague, misleading or equivocal.

meanings for pop goes the weasel
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Oh...my old war wound? I got that at The Battle of Dorking. Very nasty affair that was, I can tell you.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2020, 04:57:01 pm »

US version:

All around the Mulberry Bush,
The monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey stopped to pull up his sock,
Pop! goes the weasel.

Half a pound of tuppenny rice,
Half a pound of treacle.
Mix it up and make it nice,
Pop! goes the weasel.


I definitely remember learning the first stanza, but the second stanza (as an American version) is totally new to me.
And I find it odd that it is "American" because we use neither the words 'tuppenny' nor 'treacle' in everyday parlance, not when the ditty was written, nor today.
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If you're alive, it isn't. -- Lauren Bacall

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2020, 04:58:49 pm »

Anthony Newley version
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2020, 05:05:37 pm »

This has brought back memories - it's one of the mursery rhymes I used to sing to my daughetrs when they were very little. I used to do all the verses mentioned above apart from the mulbery bush one.

Anyway, when done Chicar for this 'spoilered' April fool's day post Grin.

Yours,
Miranda.
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Mercury Wells
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2020, 05:30:14 pm »

Demios, I wonder if US troops picked up the song, while stationed in the UK durung the 2 world wars?
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 05:35:18 pm »

Demios, I wonder if US troops picked up the song, while stationed in the UK durung the 2 world wars?

Possibly....will have to look into this.....
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2020, 06:46:00 pm »

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Hmmm...
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2020, 07:13:18 pm »

OK....after singing the first verse a few times, I recalled the second stanza I learned:

                 A penny for a spool of thread
                 A penny for a needle,
                 A penny for [something-something]
                 Pop! goes the weasel.


So now I have to do a bit of sleuthing to find a record of the second stanza so as to identify the missing word(s).
Of course, my memory may finally kick in for that part too....one can hope anyway :-p  

Edit:  just recalled it....and it follows one of the UK versions

                 A penny for a spool of thread
                 A penny for a needle,
                 That's the way the money goes
                 Pop! goes the weasel.


                  
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Mercury Wells
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2020, 08:24:06 pm »

Anthony Newley - Pop Goes The Weasel video
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2020, 11:36:34 pm »

Smiley I do know what weasels are but the only weasels in Australia are snivelling individuals who try to con others or make themselves look important.

Avoid weasel words!

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2020, 12:23:00 am »

Half a pound of tuppenny rice,
Half a pound of treacle.
That's the way the money goes,
Pop! goes the weasel

Is the only version I remember - no monkeys or needles.
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Mercury Wells
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2020, 12:52:22 am »

Smiley I do know what weasels are but the only weasels in Australia are snivelling individuals who try to con others or make themselves look important.

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Cockney slang:- Monkeys & donkeys/horses/ponys explained
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2020, 01:28:11 am »

The Canadian version is
round and round the mulberry bush
the monkey chased the weasel
the monkey thought 'twas all in fun
pop goes the weasel
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2020, 01:54:17 am »

So, with the help of Wikipedia (and yes, I know it is not a Primary Source, but it has its uses....) my memory has been jogged.

   Pop! Goes the Weasel

I don't know where I got the Mulberry Bush part ...maybe I conflated it with another nursery rhyme.
The Wiki entry covers both the UK and American versions.

One of the American versions has the 2 stanzas I learned.

        All around the cobbler’s bench
         The monkey chased the weasel.
         The monkey thought ’twas all in good fun,
         Pop! goes the weasel.


         Up and down the King's Road,
         In and out the Eagle,
         That's the way the money goes—
         Pop! goes the weasel.

         A penny for a spool of thread,
          A penny for a needle—
          That's the way the money goes,
          Pop! goes the weasel.


         Jimmy’s got the whooping cough
         And Timmy’s got the measles.
         That’s the way the story goes,
         Pop! goes the weasel.

         I've no time to wait and sigh,
         No patience to wait 'til by and by.
         Kiss me quick, I'm off, goodbye!
         Pop! goes the weasel.

   

This is the version I learned with the following two changes:

1) The minor change of "cobbler's" [bench] to "carpenter's" [bench], probably because by the 1960s there weren't a lot of cobblers any more, but there were still quite a few carpenters around.

2) "The monkey thought it 'twas all good fun" to "The monkey thought it was all in fun" (yeah, a very minor change) 
     
So I learned an abbreviated and minimally altered American version.
And I am totally unfamiliar with the 2nd, 4th and 5th verses.

  

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Mercury Wells
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2020, 02:37:26 am »

So the plot thickens, Watson!?.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2020, 03:47:38 am »

So the plot thickens, Watson!?.

It does indeed, my dear Wells, it most indubitably does.....except that I don't intend to lose any sleep over it.  Wink
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