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« on: March 11, 2020, 02:03:25 am »

Greetings My Fellow Netizens!

As some of you may (or may not) know ( or remember, or not) I am one of those crazies that really enjoys the crossover
between SteamPunk and Cowboy Shooting, escpecially the period of percussion revolvers ( about 1851 to 1873 ish)

WHilst perusing some Cowboy Action pages, I chanced upon a gentleman who was palnning on travelling fron Germany
to shoot at the Single Action Shooting Society's annual match called "End of The Trail" ... well i fell down the rabbit hole
and look what I found in Italy:

The WILD WEST REBELS SHOOTING CLUB
Rovella, ITALY

some tintypes of their 2019 Costume Contest:































I am especially interested since I was planning to try to stick a digital camrea inside a fake Belows Camera body...

yhs
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2020, 03:30:06 am »

I think, given the time-period of the cowboy era, they fit together nicely.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2020, 04:12:42 am »

Spaghetti Western Steampunk? Actually, looking at the gent in Confederate uniform, the Italian Unification / Risorgimento uniforms can be very similar to Civil War / Reconstruction era uniforms, if not downright identical for some very specific regiments. I wonder if period US Civil War garb is somewhat facile to produce among Italian Steampunks. I'm not sure about the Indian Wars Period and thereafter. Sadly, I don't see much correspondence with American Steampunks; this historical topic (Risorgimento) contemporary to the 1860s is not taught very well (at all) in the United States. Same situation as with the Second French Intervention in Mexico, it's a subject completely overshadowed by the American Civil War in the education curriculum - by that I mean entirely ignored at secondary level schools.



A bit of trivia on the history of the red Garibaldi Shirt seen during the Wars of Italian Unification and its relationship to Latin American Independence and the United States Civil War:

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The red shirts were started by Giuseppe Garibaldi. During his years of exile, Garibaldi was involved in a military action in Uruguay, where, in 1843, he originally used red shirts from a stock destined for slaughterhouse workers in Buenos Aires. Later, he spent time in private retirement in New York City. Both places have been claimed as the birthplace of the Garibaldian red shirt.[1]

The formation of his force of volunteers in Uruguay, his mastery of the techniques of guerilla warfare, his opposition to the Emperor of Brazil and Argentine territorial ambitions (perceived by liberals as also imperialist), and his victories in the battles of Cerro and Sant'Antonio in 1846 that assured the independence of Uruguay, made Garibaldi and his followers heroes in Italy and Europe. Garibaldi was later hailed as the "Gran Chico Fornido" on the basis of these exploits.

In Uruguay, calling on the Italians of Montevideo, Garibaldi formed the Italian Legion in 1843. In later years, it was claimed that in Uruguay the legion first sported the red shirts associated with Garibaldi's "Thousand", which were said to have been obtained from a factory in Montevideo which had intended to export them to the slaughter houses of Argentina. Red shirts sported by Argentinian butchers in the 1840s are not otherwise documented, however, and the famous camicie rosse did not appear during Garibaldi's efforts in Rome in 1849–50.
Giuseppe Barboglio a Red Shirt volunteer of the Thousand wearing the Marsala Medal

Later, after the failure of the campaign for Rome, Garibaldi spent a few years, circa 1850–53, with the Italian patriot and inventor, Antonio Meucci, in a modest gothic frame house (now designated a New York City Landmark), on Staten Island, New York City, before sailing for Italy in 1853. There is a Garibaldi-Meucci museum on Staten Island.

In New York, during the pre-Civil War era, rival companies of volunteer firemen were the great working-class heroes of the city. Their courage, their civic spirit, and the lively comradeship they demonstrated inspired fanatic followers throughout New York, the original "fire buffs".
A typical patriotic communal monument to the Garibaldini, at Monte Porzio

Volunteer fire companies varied in the completeness and details of their uniforms, but they all wore the red flannel shirt. When Garibaldi returned to Italy after his New York stay, the red shirts made their first appearance among his followers.

Garibaldi remained a local hero among European immigrants back in New York. The "Garibaldi Guard" (39th New York State Volunteers) fought in the American Civil War, 1861–65. As part of their uniform, they wore red woolen "Garibaldi Shirts" – at least, all enlisted men did. The New York Tribune sized them up:

    The officers of the Guard are men who have held important commands in the Hungarian, Italian, and German revolutionary armies. Many of them were in the Sardinian and French armies in the Crimea and in Algeria.

Giuseppe Barboglio a Red Shirt volunteer of the Thousand wearing the Marsala Medal





PS
May I suggest changing the title from "Teampunk / Cowboy Crossovers" to "Steampunk / Cowboy Crossovers"?
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2020, 06:30:27 am »

Apart from the non-regulation hat (which does look comfortable, and handsomee), the miltary gent is wearing a correct Confederate States Army General's uniform. The Confederates only had one set of insignia for all grades of General. Apparantly, they figured if you weren't a General you saluted and said "Yes, sir General!" and if you were a General, you could be trusted to know the exact grade and date of commission of every other General within three day's hard riding of you. Of course, correct regulation uniform was seldom seem in the CSA.....
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2020, 09:48:04 am »

Thanks J!
I appreciate the info, the USA is absolutely pitifull at teaching history of any sort, let alone history of places beyond it's borders.

( oh don't get me started, I have a large TODO reading list regarding the complications of Mexican history and  politics and etc
from ~ 1840 to present , as well as the same for the Phillipines. Oh and Hawaii. grrrrrrrrr  )

( oh and I STILL rant that nobody knows who General Tadeusz Kosciuszko was... and its US history... )

yhs
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ps I am fat fingring today and can't figure out how to change the subject.


pps: thanks for the CAS info Darkhund!
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2020, 03:35:18 am »

Thanks J!
I appreciate the info, the USA is absolutely pitifull at teaching history of any sort, let alone history of places beyond it's borders.

( oh don't get me started, I have a large TODO reading list regarding the complications of Mexican history and  politics and etc
from ~ 1840 to present , as well as the same for the Phillipines. Oh and Hawaii. grrrrrrrrr  )

( oh and I STILL rant that nobody knows who General Tadeusz Kosciuszko was... and its US history... )

yhs
prof marvel

ps I am fat fingring today and can't figure out how to change the subject.


pps: thanks for the CAS info Darkhund!

How nuanced is that reading list? For a general history there's a very simple book that I thought, perhaps erroneously, had been translated to English (but now I can't find it online in English): Visión Panorámica de la Historia de México by Martín Quitarte. This was a textbook I read in junior high back in Mexico, and it was a very nice summary, more like amn introduction from the 19th century through to the mid 20th century.
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