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Author Topic: Steampunk Safe Combination Dial  (Read 1343 times)
GeorgeCB
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« on: February 28, 2020, 03:18:37 pm »

I'm looking for suggestions on how to make a small steampunk safe combination dial for some steampunk book covers I've been working on. I know that Tim Hotlz sells various small metal embellishments for steampunk project, but, sadly not dials.

Grateful for any suggestions on how to make or if anyone knows of a crafts supplier who might sell this type of thing.

Many thanks

George
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2020, 04:27:19 pm »

Can you post a pic or link to what you have in my mind?
I have my own idea of what you are looking for, but I want to see what you are thinking of.
It might not look anything like what I think you want.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2020, 05:43:33 pm »

This is the sort of thing I'm looking for - https://imgur.com/a/YDQw61J

I found a couple of sites that sell fridge magnets and door handles that would work for me but the postage from the US to the UK is ridiculous.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2020, 06:38:36 pm »

Maybe something more modern plus weathering?
German shop, but
https://www.conrad.de/de/p/tru-components-rn-113a-drehknopf-mit-skala-aluminium-x-h-29-2-mm-x-18-1-mm-1-st-1570160.html
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2020, 06:55:18 pm »


Yes that's the sort of thing but maybe a bit too modern (although it could be aged) can't work out the cost of postage from Germany though - that could bump the price up a bit.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2020, 08:35:44 pm »

I know, I just wanted to give you a pic of what you could use...for you to have an idea. Remove the plastic colar, add brass pipe, boom.

IF you have a lathe, you can also turn a knob and etch in the numbers etc.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2020, 10:01:37 pm »

This is the sort of thing I'm looking for - https://imgur.com/a/YDQw61J

I found a couple of sites that sell fridge magnets and door handles that would work for me but the postage from the US to the UK is ridiculous.

OK...that's pretty much what I thought you were looking for.  Will let you know if I find something that can be sent to you for a reasonable rate.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2020, 10:06:27 pm »

Have you considered getting it 3-D printed?
 
Here is one that looks pretty close
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2838353
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GeorgeCB
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2020, 09:49:30 am »

Have you considered getting it 3-D printed?
 
Here is one that looks pretty close
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2838353


No because at the end of the day this is just a hobby and I've spent quite a bit so far and I don't want to spend anymore. I signed up to Andy Skinner's Book of Secrets online tutorial ((http://bosw.andyskinnercrafts.com/) and I wanted to create a variation that included a combination safe dial on the front cover - similar to the one you mentioned.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2020, 10:47:27 pm »

It seems to me you're overthinking this. You should be able to get a cheap combination padlock and a little Antique Brass paint at your local shops for about 5 pounds total. Pry off the dial, brass it up , and you've got it.The prying will probably give it a nice distressed look.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2020, 11:14:55 pm »

Another alternative... I was just looking at the top of a liquid-soap pump bottle. The collar that llinks the bottle to the pump's tube looks to be about the right size and (at least on that particular make of bottle) has a ridged outer edge leading to a flat-ish shoulder and finishing with a rise to the central hole. I'd imagine cutting it down to the right height, spraying it or using some rub-n-buff to give a metallic finish, sticking on a domed button to cover the central hole and printing up a ring of numbers to fit on the shoulder to make a dial.

Yours,
Miranda.
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GeorgeCB
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2020, 05:24:44 pm »

It seems to me you're overthinking this. You should be able to get a cheap combination padlock and a little Antique Brass paint at your local shops for about 5 pounds total. Pry off the dial, brass it up , and you've got it.The prying will probably give it a nice distressed look.

I thought that would be the answer but trying to find a cheap combination dial that looks like the kind you would find on a safe has proved to be more difficult that you would imagine (and expensive). I've just completed Andy Skinner's online Book of Secrets tutorial (Book of Secrets) and someone called Shirley posted her example on her blog (I've uploaded a copy at https://imgur.com/a/UbuA01U). You'll see at the top left corner she has added what looks like a safe combination and I suspect she did this by layering different elements and that is what I wanted to do. I sent her a comment to ask her how she did it but she didn't reply. I thought it would be possible to find a silicone mould that I could use but no-one has come up with one yet.
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GeorgeCB
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2020, 05:29:30 pm »

Another alternative... I was just looking at the top of a liquid-soap pump bottle. The collar that llinks the bottle to the pump's tube looks to be about the right size and (at least on that particular make of bottle) has a ridged outer edge leading to a flat-ish shoulder and finishing with a rise to the central hole. I'd imagine cutting it down to the right height, spraying it or using some rub-n-buff to give a metallic finish, sticking on a domed button to cover the central hole and printing up a ring of numbers to fit on the shoulder to make a dial.

Yours,
Miranda.


I found a perfect bottle top and I tried to make the dial base using DAS modelling clay but it just looked naff. If you have a look at my reply to the earlier post ( image example https://imgur.com/a/UbuA01U) you'll what I'm aiming for.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2020, 05:40:37 pm »

Yes, I'd say it's definitely a combination of different elements - I'm sure I recognise several of them from my own 'bits and bobs' stash.
Why not try various cog/button combinations (pun unintended) until you find something you like?  Take the picture as inspiration by all means and then add your own twist (again I apologise for another completely unintentional pun). Anyway, have fun.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2020, 06:01:56 pm »

Not sure how comfortable you are with making, but if you're inspired by Shirley's example and you don't need combo numbers, then the answer might be laser wood cut gears at your well stocked hobby store and an appropriate drawer pull handle. Looks to me like that's what Shirley used.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/287372515/laser-cut-wood-steam-punk-style-gear?gpla=1&gao=1&utm_campaign=shopping_us_NightOwlEngravingLLC_sfc_osa&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_custom1=0&utm_content=8969651&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxdiGxJ_85wIViMDICh1c_wWLEAkYBCABEgIlxPD_BwE
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2020, 08:56:48 pm »


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 I've just completed Andy Skinner's online Book of Secrets tutorial (Book of Secrets) and someone called Shirley posted her example on her blog (I've uploaded a copy at https://imgur.com/a/UbuA01U). You'll see at the top left corner she has added what looks like a safe combination and I suspect she did this by layering different elements and that is what I wanted to do.

The center part of her dial looks mighty familiar....I have about a half dozen sitting in my parts drawer...it's a brass cufflink/stud. They come in different sizes.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/251105606/4-pcs-8x9-mm-raw-brass-studs-shirt?ga_search_query=raw%2Bbrass%2Bstuds&ref=shop_items_search_104

https://www.etsy.com/listing/161660195/4-pcs-13x11-mm-raw-brass-studs-with-18?ga_search_query=raw%2Bbrass%2Bstuds&ref=shop_items_search_30

https://www.etsy.com/listing/176183235/4-pcs-13x14-mm-raw-brass-studs-shirt?ga_search_query=raw%2Bbrass%2Bstuds&ref=shop_items_search_43

The other parts can be found on ETSY as well...the gear(s) and the larger discs.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/689001482/25-wood-gear-cogs-for-steampunk-crafts?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=plywood+steampunk+1+inch+gears&ref=sc_gallery-1-1&plkey=a04cf125b47bed40d13a1373b79f28f6092352e3%3A689001482&pro=1

The beading around the edge is just generic bead chain (like on a lamp pull switch) which she probably just circled around the disc and super-glued it (or glued it to the cover itself).
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-12-ft-Chrome-Beaded-Chain-with-Connector-82385/306596894?mtc=Shopping-B-F_D27L-G-D27L-27_27_CEILING_FAN_ACCESSORIES-Generic-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-CEILING_FAN_ACCESSORIES_CeilingFanAccessories&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D27L-G-D27L-27_27_CEILING_FAN_ACCESSORIES-Generic-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-CEILING_FAN_ACCESSORIES_CeilingFanAccessories-71700000052688719-58700005049197252-92700048703438503&gclid=CjwKCAiA-vLyBRBWEiwAzOkGVIty0hO72WQ8UY5oyb6olv_DScKj0wQSvcCVtDvJqjo_0ccLYQc44BoC5PMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I'm not posting all these links as suggestions for specific suppliers; only to show you what is out there that you might be able to use.
However, the ETSY source for the brass studs is great....I use that shop all the time for my builds.  
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2020, 03:07:36 pm »

Thanks to everyone for the hints, tips and links. I think this is definately the way to go by buidling the dial up layer by layer. The only problem with Etsy is that the UK site is much more limited when it comes to sourcing steampunk elements - the US site is mouthwatering but the postage is too prohibitive. In fact while looking for stuff for my project, most of the sites with the goodies are in the US which would imply that Americans are very fond of arts and crafts. When I was following Andy Skinner's online tutorial nearly all of the materials were American and in many cases simply unavailable here. I have managed to track down via UK eBay some of Tim Holtz's studs so that's a start.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2020, 05:02:16 pm »

The place with the brass studs (cufflinks) is in Turkey...shipping is about $5 (USD), but it will take a few weeks to get delivered.

Some Etsy shops with metal gears are in China:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/759621736/vintage-mixed-100g-alloy-metal-steampunk?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=brass+metal+steampunk+gears&ref=sr_gallery-1-3&organic_search_click=1&pro=1

Shipping is reasonable but you may have to wait 5-6 weeks for it.

This place is in the UK:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/244964732/10-steampunk-cogs-wheels-gears-15mm-58?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=brass+metal+steampunk+gears&ref=sr_gallery-1-10&organic_search_click=1

If you object to waiting 3-4 weeks you can sometimes pay (a lot) more to get it faster.
I have ordered more than three fourths of all my materials/stock from places like Turkey, China, S. Korea, Hong Kong, and saved a lot of money. But I was willing to wait up to two months for the stuff to arrive.
But I still think it was more than worth it....the variety of stuff available from those shops is unbelievable.
If you are on a budget (and I am on a budget) there are always going to be trade-offs.
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GeorgeCB
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2020, 11:25:44 am »

I have bought stuff from China etc etc but only when I can't get it locally or the price is too good to pass on. I suspect that due to the dreaded CVirus, deliveries from the Far East will be affected. Anyway, thanks to your (and the others') suggestions I have been able to source the bits and pieces I need for my combination dial within the UK and a decent prices.
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2020, 06:02:41 am »

I have bought stuff from China etc etc but only when I can't get it locally or the price is too good to pass on. I suspect that due to the dreaded CVirus, deliveries from the Far East will be affected. Anyway, thanks to your (and the others') suggestions I have been able to source the bits and pieces I need for my combination dial within the UK and a decent prices.

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