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Author Topic: Send some rain and cold down-under!  (Read 1945 times)
Synistor 303
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2020, 03:54:54 am »

We are in a relatively safe area in the outer Melbourne suburbs, but have family in Sydney who are coping with the fires and smoke there. Just a bit too much smoke here today to be able to go outside safely, but no-where near as bad as it has been in Sydney or the country areas that have burned... The cyclone off the coast of WA could be a blessing, as it looks like it might channel some serious rain over the east coast. Here's hoping. With a bit of rain on it, the native vegetation should shoot up and give some of the wildlife something to eat.Poor little beggars.
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2020, 06:21:45 am »

Over 6 million hectares burnt out. Put into perspective, that's an area the size of the island of Ireland.
Half a billion wildlife, more stock than can be counted as yet. North of me in what is called the Corryong fire getting on for 25,000 head of stock - dairy and beef cattle, sheep and horses - will have to be shot.

Battening down for more heat, wind and smoke. There are 2 fires (Controlled, for now) 11 km slightly south-west of me. I won't be sleeping much this weekend, and am already tired.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2020, 12:22:09 pm »

Such enormous destruction and loss is beyond comprehension.

For folks in the US  here is some perspective (a cut-and-paste from one of the online news sites):
As of Jan. 7, approximately 32,400 square miles, an area of land a little smaller than Indiana, have burned since the blazes began. ...80 times larger than the total area burned in the 2019 California wildfires.
 
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2020, 11:58:39 pm »

Such enormous destruction and loss is beyond comprehension.

For folks in the US  here is some perspective (a cut-and-paste from one of the online news sites):
As of Jan. 7, approximately 32,400 square miles, an area of land a little smaller than Indiana, have burned since the blazes began. ...80 times larger than the total area burned in the 2019 California wildfires.
 

80 times the California fires area is likea  a square patch 8.9 x 8.9 times bigger that the California fires). The most impressive photos are the composite of photos from space showing 4 months of fire superimposed.
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2020, 08:45:10 am »

Thanks for the rain - been raining now for a few hours and not a sound of fire-starting lightning!
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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2020, 01:03:12 pm »

Thanks for the rain - been raining now for a few hours and not a sound of fire-starting lightning!

Had about 30 seconds of rain so far, hoping for more! The winds have been ferocious!
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2020, 11:36:19 pm »

How did you go rain-wise, Banfili? We ended up with 20 mls! I don't even have to water the pot plants!
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2020, 01:47:05 am »

Ditto for eastern Melbourne. Unfortunately the major fires just keep on getting bigger and with the change in wind directions, joining together. Over on Kangaroo Island in South Australia, half the island has been burnt and Kingscote is no longer regarded as a "safer place" by some as it is being surrounded. The birds of prey refuge in the center of the island has realised that they can't treat this fire as a once-off and need to establish a more permanent evacuation point for their wedgetail eagles, owls and other creatures so 1) the birds don't get as stressed 2) they don't rely on staff to shelter the animals at home 3) they can make the evacuation (which they have already had to do twice this summer) smoother.
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2020, 05:07:52 am »

How did you go rain-wise, Banfili? We ended up with 20 mls! I don't even have to water the pot plants!

Nothing to measure - about 30 seconds patter on the roof & that was it!
However, just for a change, there was actually blue sky this morning, - for the first time in about 3 weeks no smoke!
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2020, 01:07:50 pm »

Today's local paper has some statistics on amount of damage done to Towong Shire, where I live. It is geographically a relatively large shire, but with a population of only 6100 people.

43% of the shire has been burnt in January - that is 308,000 hectares in total. This does not include the fires that are still burning, or the back burning that is taking place when safe to do so. (Nation-wide, more than five billion hectares has been burnt out.)

Shire livestock losses are somewhere in around 30-35 thousand head of beef and dairy cattle, sheep, goats, horses and poultry. There are an unknown number of domestic animals lost - we will probably never have an exact total. Local estimates of wildlife losses are unknown, but an estimated two billion losses nationwide. Kangaroo Island in South Australia lost approximately 25,000 koalas out of a population of 50,000 - the koala population on the Island is also one that was disease free (most mainland koala populations have a shocking rate of chlamydia!)

Thousands upon thousands of kilometres of fencing has been burnt, which means in some areas stock that survived the fire are not secured, and may not be recovered. There is some bushland and pine plantations that haven't burnt, and if the stock get in there they may never be found.

I was up in the Cudgewa fire area on Sunday, collecting my rescue dog, and could see first hand just how grim the area looks. Houses, well, the ones that survived are ok, some of them a little singed around the edges. The ones that didn't, one or two brick chimneys and a pile of corrugated iron roofing is all that's left. A house here, a house there, a run of two or three houses, then a gap. Someone's house burnt to rubble, but their water tank and some shedding still standing. And then the opposite - the house surviving, or mostly surviving, but everything else around gone. Surprisingly, all things considered, all three churches survived. One (probably the one with toilets) had three or four caravans parked in the yard. So, overall a miserable trip up, and a miserable trip home.
It didn't feel right to take photographs.

On the other hand, the community was being supported by volunteers helping with all sorts of jobs - the main one was fencing. There were new fences being laid out and being erected, and importantly for those in the area who still had stock to feed, supplies of hay and fodder that had been brought in by the truckload. There will be a 'Hayrunners' convoy heading up past Cudgewa to Corryong tomorrow morning. 'Hayrunners' are volunteer groups that organise semi-trailer convoys of hay and fodder to drought-affected areas, now turning their attention to the fire areas in all parts of the country - those that have a bit extra give to those who don't have anything. They ran a 175 semi-trailer truck convoy through Sydney and up to Armidale, 1000 kilometres, just a few weeks ago - policing that lot through Sydney must have been fun!

The vet who was fostering the dog I brought home with me nearly lost her house - the fire was within two metres when it was stopped at the house yard fence. She had evacuated with the domestic animals, her own and the rescue fosters and returned home to the distressing, horrible job of shooting all of her fifty sheep - she says she won't get any more - her little mob of cattle were saved.

Community holds us together. It's a great spirit, and we are going to need every bit that we can get - it is going to take a very long time for the Shire, and the country, to recover.

Now, to add insult to injury, some of the areas burnt out towards the end of 2019, in Queensland and Northern Coastal New South Wales are being flooded, with torrential downpours in some places of more than 230 ml - over nine inches - in a very short space of time!!

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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2020, 01:50:45 am »

A lot of fires are now out. Flooding downpours do that!
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2020, 08:54:55 am »

A lot of fires are now out. Flooding downpours do that!

Raining here in the North-East of Victoria now - bit more than the 5ml from yesterday! We are not going to get the torrential downpours the east coast has received, but this is good enough to put the Shire's fires out. Can't really win - drought, fires and now floods, all at the same time! No use offering some of the monsoon to the North-Eastern hemisphere - they have got their own!!
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2020, 01:20:19 am »

No rain, or just enough to be annoying, here in Melbourne. We don't mind as long as there is rain putting fires out. It is a tad humid, though, with some people comparing the weather to Darwin weather, but having lived in that city in a past life, I can assure that it is NOTHING like that kind of humidity. We had our share of rain a few weeks ago, so it is your turn now, Banfili.

How's the dog going?
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2020, 02:47:54 am »

No rain, or just enough to be annoying, here in Melbourne. We don't mind as long as there is rain putting fires out. It is a tad humid, though, with some people comparing the weather to Darwin weather, but having lived in that city in a past life, I can assure that it is NOTHING like that kind of humidity. We had our share of rain a few weeks ago, so it is your turn now, Banfili.

How's the dog going?

25ml yesterday & overnight - nice & steady!

The dog is doing very well, thank you! Gradually getting more used to the house and her very big yard - friendly relations with the house cats hasn't occurred yet, but no fisticuffs so far!
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2020, 07:49:06 am »

Today's local paper has some statistics on amount of damage done to Towong Shire, where I live. It is geographically a relatively large shire, but with a population of only 6100 people.

43% of the shire has been burnt in January - that is 308,000 hectares in total. This does not include the fires that are still burning, or the back burning that is taking place when safe to do so. (Nation-wide, more than five billion hectares has been burnt out.)

Shire livestock losses are somewhere in around 30-35 thousand head of beef and dairy cattle, sheep, goats, horses and poultry. There are an unknown number of domestic animals lost - we will probably never have an exact total. Local estimates of wildlife losses are unknown, but an estimated two billion losses nationwide. Kangaroo Island in South Australia lost approximately 25,000 koalas out of a population of 50,000 - the koala population on the Island is also one that was disease free (most mainland koala populations have a shocking rate of chlamydia!)

Thousands upon thousands of kilometres of fencing has been burnt, which means in some areas stock that survived the fire are not secured, and may not be recovered. There is some bushland and pine plantations that haven't burnt, and if the stock get in there they may never be found.

I was up in the Cudgewa fire area on Sunday, collecting my rescue dog, and could see first hand just how grim the area looks. Houses, well, the ones that survived are ok, some of them a little singed around the edges. The ones that didn't, one or two brick chimneys and a pile of corrugated iron roofing is all that's left. A house here, a house there, a run of two or three houses, then a gap. Someone's house burnt to rubble, but their water tank and some shedding still standing. And then the opposite - the house surviving, or mostly surviving, but everything else around gone. Surprisingly, all things considered, all three churches survived. One (probably the one with toilets) had three or four caravans parked in the yard. So, overall a miserable trip up, and a miserable trip home.
It didn't feel right to take photographs.

On the other hand, the community was being supported by volunteers helping with all sorts of jobs - the main one was fencing. There were new fences being laid out and being erected, and importantly for those in the area who still had stock to feed, supplies of hay and fodder that had been brought in by the truckload. There will be a 'Hayrunners' convoy heading up past Cudgewa to Corryong tomorrow morning. 'Hayrunners' are volunteer groups that organise semi-trailer convoys of hay and fodder to drought-affected areas, now turning their attention to the fire areas in all parts of the country - those that have a bit extra give to those who don't have anything. They ran a 175 semi-trailer truck convoy through Sydney and up to Armidale, 1000 kilometres, just a few weeks ago - policing that lot through Sydney must have been fun!

The vet who was fostering the dog I brought home with me nearly lost her house - the fire was within two metres when it was stopped at the house yard fence. She had evacuated with the domestic animals, her own and the rescue fosters and returned home to the distressing, horrible job of shooting all of her fifty sheep - she says she won't get any more - her little mob of cattle were saved.

Community holds us together. It's a great spirit, and we are going to need every bit that we can get - it is going to take a very long time for the Shire, and the country, to recover.

Now, to add insult to injury, some of the areas burnt out towards the end of 2019, in Queensland and Northern Coastal New South Wales are being flooded, with torrential downpours in some places of more than 230 ml - over nine inches - in a very short space of time!!



Jeepers. You just don't know about now until you see it for yourself.  Must be heart breaking
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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2020, 01:30:48 pm »

Bad enough for those of us who dodged the bullet this time - all we had to deal with was the heat and the smoke! Apparently there hasn't been a major bushfire in this valley for 72 years - which brings the season that it happens one year closer! There was one fire tanker allocated to my town, and one for the town straight up the valley - it's indefensible, as it sits in a mountainous bowl like a sugar cube in a teacup! The weather bureau thinks the worst of the heat is over for this summer - hallelujah if they are right!

Some friends and I are going to get together in a few weeks and book in for lunch at the Cudgewa Pub - is, at least, survived!
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