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Thailand Thailand

« on: December 09, 2019, 10:16:10 am »

It's been suggested before that the internet can be metaphorically seen as a series of tubes.
But what if it really were a series of tubes?
Carrying information in the form of pressure variances in the steam or utilizing

the increased speed of sound through liquid.
If you had to design the intertubes, how would yo go about it?
Rogue Ætherlord
Canada Canada

Student in Techno-Shamanism and Lyncanthrope

« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2019, 12:20:32 pm »

That Where The Serie Of Tubes Come From:

The word pagan came from paganus , who mean peasant . Its was a way to significate than christianism was the religion of the elite and paganism the one of the savage worker class.

''Trickster shows us how we trick OURSELVES. Her rampant curiosity backfires, but, then, something NEW is discovered (though usually not what She expected)! This is where creativity comes from—experiment, do something different, maybe even something forbidden, and voila! A breakthrough occurs! Ha! Ha! We are released! The world is created anew! Do something backwards, break your own traditions, the barrier breaks; destroy the world as you know it, let the new in.''
Extract of the Dreamflesh article ''Path of The Sacred Clown''
Kensington Locke
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United States United States

« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 10:42:18 pm »

there's a bit more nuance to the "series of tubes" representing the Internet, back when Senator Ted Stevens said that in a meeting about a net neutrality bill.

Flaws and humor in the analogy aside, could actual tubes be used in a retro-internet network?

Maybe.  If we recall the early pneumatic tubes that carried messages throughout a building, one could imagine writing down your request (or perhaps typing it on a punchcard making machine), and putting the card in the canister and woosh, down the tube it goes to Routing.  Which opens the canister, checks the routing code and puts it into Messaging or Research if it was a query.

Research gets it, runs it into their Babbage processor, which tells us Record 1156 answers the question, so somebody stuffs a copy into the canister with a return routing card, and it zips back through a couple hops back to your desk.

Tubes. With some humans acting as transfer medium to get it from one zone to another.  Perhaps even that might be automated.

Could all of that been done with telegraph?  Certainly a typewriter to clicker apparatus could be made to send the morse code.

The biggest obstacle is switching.  Which is why early telephone and those pneumatic tubes was such a manual process of connecting you to the right tube/wire. Somebody intercepts your request, and moves your canister to the right tube/switches your wire to the correct destination and you then continue your call.

Collating the signals (handset clicks, morse code digits, cannister markings) to auto-route would take more tech than we had back then.  At least electrically.  Maybe not mechanically.  Which might be how to justify a Tube based solution.  The routing card sits on the outside of the cannister and a series of filters figures out the first digit is for messaging, and so it routes it to that part of the system that figures out where you want to send it (ex. 867-5309) So that figures out the next digit is 8 so it sends it to zone 8.  Which proceeds down the line until the cannister arrives at Jenny's desk.

So yeah, it might work in a MythBusters Plausible kind of way.

J. Wilhelm
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2019, 12:58:42 am »

Gives totally new meaning to the name "YouTube."

Synistor 303
Australia Australia

Zenyna Ironbracker

« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2019, 03:57:26 am »

I saw a documentary on this some time ago - called the 'IT Crowd', it was shown that the internet is actually a small black metal box... No tubes.
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