Author Topic: The Brassgoggles Model Making Club (the second non-SP model making thread).  (Read 50534 times)

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So, I'm on holiday with the parental units, and it seems they made the mistake of leaving me unsupervised in a model shop...



This is my haul.
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I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

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Teutonic is in pieces.

I had to shorten the slide valves on both HP cylinders by 4mm.
I doubt the loco has ever run under her own steam.
Now I am looking for the missing 5mm of valve travel on the RH side.
Seems to be something wrong with the dimensions of the rods.
LP cylinder still shows no signs of life.

I seem to have no other choice than to take the boiler off the frames and get the LP cylinder out to have a look inside the steamchest.
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Found the missing 5mm valve travel (pin in the wrong place).
Tested HP cylinders on air. Everything runs smoothly.
I have finally understood the critical points of Joy valve gear.
Next thing is to take the boiler off and drop the LP cylinder from the frames.
There seems to be something really wrong with its slide valve as the piston does not react to any movement of the valve rod.

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This is what I've been working on for the last few days.  3D printed Barnum brake third kit, which turns up as a couple of printed bits (body, chassis, bogies and seating) and you have to supply buffers, couplings and wheels. 

First bit is to cut off the printing 'skeleton'- bits of flash and stuff that had to be added to strengthen the model whilst printing- I advise caution here because I managed to cut through the body itself when the knife slipped (fortunately this was easily repaired).

Then moving on to the paintwork and I've started with the teak, which is now done, and now I need to think about the roof and the ceiling. 



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I was left unsupervised again....

This time the result was a handful of pieces for my reference library (including the first volume of  Dow's history of the great central).

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Teutonic is alive.
HP and LP cylinders work.
Boiler cladding has been cleaned and repainted.
Platework was hard to clean. There were several layers of paint. Some resisted the wire brush and even pickling chemistry.
Next weapon: Sandblasting.
Hope that will help.

Spent some time working on the tender axles. The axleboxes needed quite a bit of filing before they moved freely.

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Time I think for my latest project to break cover, which will also be the first bit of scenery for Dukeswood.

In keeping with trying to introduce some prototype elements I intend to model this rather unusual signalbox.


It's of course unusual in part because it seems to be built from, (or at least clad in) corrugated iron but also because despite being on a GCR line, the roof line (and spike finials in particular) are much more a sign of Midland design.

Rather than a scratchbuild I'm looking to bodge this card kit with suitable plastikard.
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I hate to say this, but aren't the proportions of the model you're planning to bodge from rather different to the ones you want?
Comparing the sizes of the downstairs doors, the model looks to be a fair bit wider than the one in the photo.

If you could send me a scan/better picture of that photo I reckon I could draw up a plan for it in a day or two, if you fancy. I may even be able to cut it out of card/veneer/3mm ply on the laser cutter, though you would have to do the corrugated iron texture yourself.
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I hate to say this, but aren't the proportions of the model you're planning to bodge from rather different to the ones you want?
Comparing the sizes of the downstairs doors, the model looks to be a fair bit wider than the one in the photo.

If you could send me a scan/better picture of that photo I reckon I could draw up a plan for it in a day or two, if you fancy. I may even be able to cut it out of card/veneer/3mm ply on the laser cutter, though you would have to do the corrugated iron texture yourself.
(note: this offer is only valid while I'm twiddling my thumbs waiting for estate agents and solicitors get their acts together. Accepting this offer may trigger said acts under Sod's Law.)

I appreciate the offer, very muchly. However, I doubt I could get a better scan from my own sources (I do believe there are a multitude of pictures available online if they would be of any use). Of course, my general idea with Dukeswood is to create something 'near enough' the real thing so I couldn't really give a proverbial if it's not *exactly* like the prototype.

The main challenge I actually foresee is getting the roof line right, the other dimensions should be fairly easy, and a matter of cutting down the width of the frontage.

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I got bored today. Signal box v.1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/orkpbeilx6vz192/Kiveton%20Park%20Colliery%20box%20v.1.pdf?dl=0

What should I do to make this useful to you? What size should it be?

And there was one thing that I just couldn't get my head around - there's a letterbox in the upper door. I have no idea why this seems so absurd to me, but it does.

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I got bored today. Signal box v.1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/orkpbeilx6vz192/Kiveton%20Park%20Colliery%20box%20v.1.pdf?dl=0

What should I do to make this useful to you? What size should it be?

And there was one thing that I just couldn't get my head around - there's a letterbox in the upper door. I have no idea why this seems so absurd to me, but it does.

Thanks very much for this. In terms of size I generally work in 4mm:1ft but without exact measurements I'm not sure how to work out the current scale.

The letterbox on the upper door is a feature I hadn't actually noticed before. If I were to hazard a guess it probably powers its existence to the door having been salvaged from another building.

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Thanks very much for this. In terms of size I generally work in 4mm:1ft but without exact measurements I'm not sure how to work out the current scale.

Here is version 2.
I seem to have mostly designed this for making out of card (a couple of pieces have the traditional dashed fold lines), as I don't know what you want to do with it.
I also included the images (found online) that I used as reference. It has changed a bit, with different paint colours, etc., but the biggest change is in the staircase. The first version looks to have gone along the outer wall, while later ones went straight out from the door, with an early version being noticeably steeper than the later version. As I wasn't sure of the era you're going for I chose the straight out and steep version; I can change it to either of the others if you like.
Also, in the very earliest photo, the bottom of the building is open with a covering panel added later. The panel is in the design but you can cut it out if you want the original version.

I'm assuming that you'll paint it, so have only coloured the roof and the internal floor as they never changed (or so I assume with the floor). Similarly the windows are plain white for you to do with as you see fit. I can black them all out or put a picture of your choice behind them if you want.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjdfj19y4h5w46j/Kiveton%20Park%20Colliery%20box%20v.2.pdf?dl=0

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Wow, you have been busy. I'll see about printing this off in the next few days. Ill definitely use it as a mock up and will almost certainly use the stairs regardless of how I look to pull off the final article. I do also have some bits and pieces for the interior and have my eye on some suitable laser cut window frames from a supplier I've used before.

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Teaking- outside and in- is finished, as is the roof and ceiling.  I'm now working on the seats and partitions, to be followed by the chassis. 

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Teutonic parts have been sandblasted.

Some body panels haven´t been soldered properly (or at all) and came apart.
More work than expected.

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So I've finally started on my signal box.


Here's the two mock ups side by side (the original kit I intended to use, and the version very kindly provided by SirHenry, and as can be seen theres not much between them. Unfortunately, SirHenry's version has ended up over scale (probably thanks to some mistake on my part) so I've decided just to use it as a plan/guide for the exterior. I also received the laser cut windows and doors yesterday so will be working from them to get the apertures right, and root through my bits boxes revealed an old kit for an LMS (former LNWR) pattern box which should provide me with the stairs and bargeboards.