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Author Topic: Airship Travel - they make it sound so good  (Read 1439 times)
Hurricane Annie
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« on: April 17, 2018, 05:13:04 pm »


 Blasting in from the past.  Is airship travel and freight viable?   Are large and small airship both practical craft?  Would it  ultimately be cost effective? Do you fancy the idea of riding in one?

 I like the idea of cruising in a smaller craft. An intimate ride at a  comfortable pace.   I could see a tourism potential as well as practical application  for cargo, drop off and  rescue.

 https://www.google.co.nz/amp/m.scmp.com/magazines/style/tech-design/article/2097307/airships-revolutionise-luxury-transport-companies%3famp=1
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2018, 05:56:23 pm »



 Here is an interesting article on the topic of Russian  development  of airship craft  for practical use

https://sputniknews.com/science/201705061053345054-early-warning-blimp-development/
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2018, 10:35:04 pm »

Something that isn't mentioned often is it seems early rigid airships had a certain odor to the inside that was bought up on the 99% Invisible Podcast recently...

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The gas bags made to contain the hydrogen were also an engineering marvel. Engineers tried out synthetic fabrics coated with latex, but these didn’t work — they variously leaked or failed when contracting and expanding. Ultimately, they turned to the traditional material used by the Zeppelin company: the ox intestines, which were very thin and flexible and only leaked very slowly. But it took a lot of intestines to make a gas bag — each ox could provide around a square foot, but gas bags required around 30,000 square feet. In the end, over a million and a half ox intestines were needed, all carefully stitched into fifteen bags. Together, they lent a musty odor to the airship that was hard to mask.
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/airships-future-never/
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2018, 11:40:29 pm »

Something that isn't mentioned often is it seems early rigid airships had a certain odor to the inside that was bought up on the 99% Invisible Podcast recently...

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The gas bags made to contain the hydrogen were also an engineering marvel. Engineers tried out synthetic fabrics coated with latex, but these didn’t work — they variously leaked or failed when contracting and expanding. Ultimately, they turned to the traditional material used by the Zeppelin company: the ox intestines, which were very thin and flexible and only leaked very slowly. But it took a lot of intestines to make a gas bag — each ox could provide around a square foot, but gas bags required around 30,000 square feet. In the end, over a million and a half ox intestines were needed, all carefully stitched into fifteen bags. Together, they lent a musty odor to the airship that was hard to mask.
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/airships-future-never/

They just need to breed a REALLY BIG ox!  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 11:44:20 pm »

Perhaps Airship Tourism is attractive as an alternative to cruise ships. On a much smaller and intimate scale. As long as they can make sure passengers will not get sick the same way they have stomach bugs running around in ocean liners  Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2018, 11:47:15 pm »

Looks like there might be a specialised  hybrid breed  for that purpose

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2018, 11:48:03 pm »

Perhaps Airship Tourism is attractive as an alternative to cruise ships. On a much smaller and intimate scale. As long as they can make sure passengers will not get sick the same way they have stomach bugs running around in ocean liners  Shocked

An airborne virus could be tricky
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2018, 12:41:11 am »

Looks like there might be a specialised  hybrid breed  for that purpose



I'm really liking this. Imagine the giant feather weight steaks you can get from that cow.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2018, 12:41:55 am »

Perhaps Airship Tourism is attractive as an alternative to cruise ships. On a much smaller and intimate scale. As long as they can make sure passengers will not get sick the same way they have stomach bugs running around in ocean liners  Shocked

An airborne virus could be tricky

Of greater concern to people on the ground, I imagine...
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2018, 12:58:29 am »

I recall from some aviation magazines I read maybe 15-20 years ago that the Russians had airships for delivering mobile hospitals and such, operated by the "Ministry for Emergency Situations". I think there was an illustrations of a twin envelope design (like a catamaran). A good sized ship would be a great way to take a leisurely cruise, in my opinion.
Small airships like the old blimps are of course fairly common, but I've never explored the possibility of a joy flight, not yet anyway. They are eerie to watch. First time I saw one I was crossing a park, and heard aero engines. Being an aeroplane geek I turned to look, and there was a big egg cruising slowly through the sky. Seeing something under power flying at such low speed was eerie. My first thought was that with tripod legs, that would be scary.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2018, 03:21:20 am »

Looks like there might be a specialised  hybrid breed  for that purpose



I'm really liking this. Imagine the giant feather weight steaks you can get from that cow.

It's lifting its tail! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2018, 04:25:09 am »

Looks like there might be a specialised  hybrid breed  for that purpose



I'm really liking this. Imagine the giant feather weight steaks you can get from that cow.

It's lifting its tail! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2018, 03:29:29 pm »


 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage

Unless the routes were carefully planed to go over farmland?
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2018, 05:49:18 pm »


 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage

Unless the routes were carefully planed to go over farmland?

  Like this Miss Cora.?  It would cover the  traces  of a stealth  mission. They would never  know it had gone past.

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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2018, 08:53:40 pm »


 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage

Unless the routes were carefully planed to go over farmland?

  Like this Miss Cora.?  It would cover the  traces  of a stealth  mission. They would never  know it had gone past.



Trust me that is not stealth. There isn't a trace of stealth in that.  Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2018, 11:53:51 pm »


 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage

Unless the routes were carefully planed to go over farmland?

  Like this Miss Cora.?  It would cover the  traces  of a stealth  mission. They would never  know it had gone past.



Trust me that is not stealth. There isn't a trace of stealth in that.  Cheesy

 OK so you called me out on that one.. .  Someone would have spotted a huge silver   craft floating there  in the breeze.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2018, 08:31:31 pm »

Quote from: von Corax on April 18, 2018, 03:21:20 am
Quote from: J. Wilhelm on April 18, 2018, 12:41:11 am
Quote from: Hurricane Annie on April 17, 2018, 11:47:15 pm
Looks like there might be a specialised  hybrid breed  for that purpose



I'm really liking this. Imagine the giant feather weight steaks you can get from that cow.

It's lifting its tail! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage

This is the reason given in the tv show SeaQuest for why "real" meat has been made illegal
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2018, 09:14:51 am »

Quote from: von Corax on April 18, 2018, 03:21:20 am
Quote from: J. Wilhelm on April 18, 2018, 12:41:11 am
Quote from: Hurricane Annie on April 17, 2018, 11:47:15 pm
Looks like there might be a specialised  hybrid breed  for that purpose



I'm really liking this. Imagine the giant feather weight steaks you can get from that cow.

It's lifting its tail! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

 That's a scary thought. Imagine the environmental damage

This is the reason given in the tv show SeaQuest for why "real" meat has been made illegal


The one that jumped over the moon
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