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Author Topic: How to Neuter Win10  (Read 2153 times)
Prof Marvel
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« on: April 21, 2017, 02:08:59 am »

Below is a bunch of stuff I collected off the web for cutting back on Win 10 bloat, killing off logging, stopping monitoring, and
turning off Cortana.
yes, you really really want to turn off cortana.
just like you don't want google listening to your ever word in the living room, gawd forbid the bedroom.

this is by no means complete.
Do your own due diligence, search the webs, you'll find where this stuff came from.

make multiple backups before doing anything.
back up your REGISTRY
back up your O/S
back up your apps
back up your userdata
test your backups - by that I mean change stuff, restore from backup, and confirm that the restore actually worked!

You *should* be doing backups at least monthly, preferrably weekly.
if it's your business, then do it daily on removable media and take it offsite.

nothing says "i have to go bankrupt" like losing all your business data.
and DON'T trust a "backup service"
     -  what to they have to lose if your data ain't there?
         oh, you'll  sue them, huh ?  
         LOL good luck with that.
         and you're still out of business.


So, the caveats:
If you choose to do any of this, you are on your own. I am not liable for anything.
if you don't understand the REGISTRY then DON'T DO THIS!
if you don;t know how to backup, restore, and test your backups, then DON'T DO THIS!
if you don;t understand what the scripts or directions aredoing or  telling you, then  DON'T DO IT
if you don;t understand how to cut and paste text into a script and run said script, DON'T DO IT

if you need help with any of this then DON'T DO IT!

please don't ask me for help, since I didn't write any of this and you can't afford me anyway.

REALLY.

when I did this sh*t for a living, the company charged $200 per hour for my time plus expenses. I got paid waaaay less .
I offered to freelance at the same $200 per hour plus expenses. No takers :-(

Now that I'm retired i would have to REALLY REALLY like you *and* it would cost A LOT.

 links:
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/11/how-to-disable-microsofts-new-spying-service-on-windows-10/
http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/
http://bgr.com/2015/08/05/window-10-privacy-settings-how-to-stop-spying/
http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-disable-hidden-keylogger-in-windows-10-3639643/
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/turn-off-windows-update-in-windows-10
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-stop-updates-installing-automatically-windows-10
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-remove-bloatware-windows-10/
https://windows.gadgethacks.com/how-to/goodbye-bloatware-remove-all-preinstalled-crapware-from-window-10-0164605/
https://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how-to-uninstall-windows-10s-built-in-apps-and-how-to-reinstall-them/
https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

I love Spybot and Ccleaner, I use them at least weekly.

ccleaner
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

spybot
https://www.safer-networking.org/

heres some more stuff from spybot
https://www.facebook.com/SpybotSearchAndDestroy/photos/a.197700620265207.37559.108833799151890/886247964743799/?type=1&pnref=story&_fb_noscript=1

and great articles
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3f10k0/things_to_removedisable_in_windows_10/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/54w7ip/the_scripts_to_disable_windows_10_bloat/

and I HATED the Win 10 gui so I installed this free gui:
Classic Shell
http://www.classicshell.net/

finally -
I use several spyware packages regularly, mostly Spybot and ClamWin.
I also surf in a sandbox - https://www.sandboxie.com/
and I installed AdBlocker Ultimate
and
Noscript noscript.net

it's a lot of work but all this crap works really well for me.
i hope it helps you,
but as Rooster Cogburn said
"Well, Ned, you do what you think best"

yhs
prof marvel
hope thid helps
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 02:33:09 am »

if you don't understand the REGISTRY then DON'T DO THIS!

NOBODY understands the registry.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 03:11:08 am »

if you don't understand the REGISTRY then DON'T DO THIS!

NOBODY understands the registry.

Good point.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 03:52:35 am »

if you don't understand the REGISTRY then DON'T DO THIS!

NOBODY understands the registry.

Good point.  Grin

wellllll
yah maybe that was a bit too much  Grin

yhs
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 12:17:15 pm »

I didn't realize 10 came with so much pre-installed spyware and unwanted crap.

(Sort of the same as my ISP collating and storing my internet activity for 12 months at a time, an added infringement of privacy, under the supposed umbrella of anti-terrorism, me thinks)

Very informative, thanks for posting, and if I ever have no choice but install this big brother data collecting/ sending OS, I will be referring back to this thread post haste.


Many thanks Prof Marvel.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 01:40:27 pm »

In my humble opinion, the only way to stay relatively pure is to stay unconnected to the net.

My XP netbook makes it's last trip as an internet connected machine in June. After that, no 'net for it. No need for spyware, firewalls, antivirus etc., if not connected! Just think of all the space I'll save on my hard drive after running Ccleaner and defrag! I think I will reformat and start all over with a few essential apps, and my GIS software.

Fall in love with your external drives, and backup, backup, backup. Nothing quite so paranoid about losing half a dissertation as a postgrad student!!
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2017, 02:32:03 pm »

In my humble opinion, the only way to stay relatively pure is to stay unconnected to the net.
That's all well and good, but as a society, are we not all connected to the web as a necessay way of contact, like a third hand, these days?

I could, and would prefer to go off grid and point two fingers to technology, but in reality we need this intrusive commodity, it is a double edged sword.

I have fought the smart phone revolution for as long as I can, but through necessity may have to give up my battered old Nokia of 12 years (the keypad is so warn no digits show) and get an I phone or something similar. I'm afraid in this world we have to keep up or fall behind.......... eventually, no matter how hard we try to aviod it, dragged and screaming into the engulfing abyss.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 08:42:45 pm »

I didn't realize 10 came with so much pre-installed spyware and unwanted crap.

(Sort of the same as my ISP collating and storing my internet activity for 12 months at a time, an added infringement of privacy, under the supposed umbrella of anti-terrorism, me thinks)

Very informative, thanks for posting, and if I ever have no choice but install this big brother data collecting/ sending OS, I will be referring back to this thread post haste.


Many thanks Prof Marvel.

Happy to help ...
also, look into inexpensive ( and some free) VPN's and proxies.  germans take privacy very seriously and there are some free german proxy istes that
claim they do not keep any logs.

now, having said that bear in mind that there are very large ( ie acres ) of server farms devoted to perview of every packet that is crossing the webs, and with the header and tailer info, can collect and reconstruct packets into complete streams, for your safety :-)
so ifn ya wanna lookit da pr0n, go buy a magazine-book LOL
yhs
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2017, 12:59:39 am »

SeVeNeVeS, I work with the level of technology I need! I did, however, get a smartphone recently, being sort of pushed into it, kicking and screaming! Not an iPhone, though - an LG Optimus L3 - Telstra compatible for Australia. The phone part will work here, and the smart part will work when I'm overseas next. $149 AU, which wasn't bad. My previous phone was dropped once too often!
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2017, 05:47:14 pm »

Most of the information in that long links list can be found consolidated into one Master Tutorial that I, coincidentally, just slogged through myself.  I have a Win 10 tablet that I'd like to start playing around with to maybe develop some Android apps but everytime I turned it on, I wanted to throw it at the wall.  So frustrating!  Now that I've cleared out much of the cruft, it's finally usable.  Took about three evenings to get through, while doing other stuff to keep me sane. 

By the way, just so folks know, most of you will have the Home edition of Win 10, not the Pro so any references to Group Policy Editor do not apply.  For example, you are not able to prevent automatic updates with the Home edition, no way, no how.  And it will always happen just when you go to start using the computer.  So remember to do a backup before you throw the computer at the wall.  Wink

I'm going to start off making a live steampunk wallpaper as a test run, since I don't see one that I like on Play.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2017, 09:31:58 pm »


By the way, just so folks know, most of you will have the Home edition of Win 10, not the Pro so any references to Group Policy Editor do not apply.  For example, you are not able to prevent automatic updates with the Home edition, no way, no how.  And it will always happen just when you go to start using the computer.  So remember to do a backup before you throw the computer at the wall.  Wink

I'm going to start off making a live steampunk wallpaper as a test run, since I don't see one that I like on Play.


where there is a will, there is a way
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/turn-off-windows-update-in-windows-10
Turn off Windows Updates in Windows 10
 - You can do this using the Windows Update service. Via Control Panel > Administrative Tools, you can access Services.
or
 -Setting your network connection to ‘Metered’, can also stop Windows 10 from automatically downloading the Updates.

also review
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-stop-updates-installing-automatically-windows-10

oh, here's more all in one place
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-enable-disable-windows-update-automatic-updates-windows-10-a.html
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 12:25:13 am »

So. I've been mulling the idea of getting a Windows tablet from China and dual booting it with Ubuntu Linux. I guess I'd have to go through all these steps to make my Windows more user friendly and secure... I'm stuck to buying Windows tablets, because the Linux kernel for the ARM-based chips that run most Android devices is not as well developed as the kernel developed for chips using Intel 386 style architecture.

Now if I understand correctly, Windows 10 is available as a "full version" (ie not the abridged Windows8 RT mobile version) does anybody know?

Those in the know, correct me if I'm wrong on this issue...

That usually means spending more money on  a tablet of similar performance does it not?
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2019, 11:52:17 am »

Windows 10 is great but the forced upgrades are ridiculous. As far as I can tell there is no known way to permanently disable the updates. If you disable the update service, there are scheduled tasks that run regularly to re-enable them. If you cancel the scheduled tasks, as soon as you reboot your computer they get added back. The possible solution is that there should be a registry key you can set to alert you that windows 10 updates are available instead of automatically installing them.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2019, 12:12:17 pm »

Or stay on 8.1 and never install it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2019, 07:54:14 am »

Or stay on 8.1 and never install it.

Or do what I did & get a Mac!! Grin

I have Windows Vista on a laptop, not connected to the Internet any more, which has primarily been used as a print server, but will now be used for my Civ3 and a couple of other Vista games, XP on a laptop and netbook, both of which will run my GIS software. This function may no longer be needed as I have a very good GIS for Mac installed on my MacBook. Also have an iPad mini and an android tablet (which will be going to another home shortly). My smartphone is not used for Internet data, just calls and texts.
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2019, 05:38:57 am »

Or stay on 8.1 and never install it.

Or do what I did & get a Mac!! Grin

I have Windows Vista on a laptop, not connected to the Internet any more, which has primarily been used as a print server, but will now be used for my Civ3 and a couple of other Vista games, XP on a laptop and netbook, both of which will run my GIS software. This function may no longer be needed as I have a very good GIS for Mac installed on my MacBook. Also have an iPad mini and an android tablet (which will be going to another home shortly). My smartphone is not used for Internet data, just calls and texts.

I'd rather spend the price of the Mac on building my own rig (incidentally, I did that just recently, actually). Running through the steps to fix Win10 (I used LTT's advice to make sort of a Windows 9.5?) and getting everything set up was quick and clean. So now I've a beast of a rig that I use mostly for gaming (and the occasional musical endeavor), and as I built it, when something goes pear-shaped, I can usually fix it. So right now, in this house, we've got three desktops (two built by me, one built by my wife), all running Win10 Pro (yay remote access and Bitlocker). The i7-3770k/GTX 1050ti is my daughter's, the Ryzen 5/GTX1660ti is my wife's, and I'm running Ryzen 7/RTX2070.

Suffice to say we do a fair bit of gaming, the job lot of us.

I guess what I'm saying is, with the proper setup job, Win10 is pretty darn great. I mean, it's NOT XP (I think that was the best version of Windows ever released), but then again, what is?
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2019, 04:40:00 pm »

I really, really liked XP, which is why I still run a laptop and a netbook with it - and that's an admission from someone who hates Microsoft! But 98ME was pretty good, too especially with SP3!
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