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Re: Steampunk Burgers & Assorted Fast Foods ??
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2015, 06:50:30 pm »


snacks from the wall are the best snacks

Do I read €1,50 for that sandwich correctly?  :o  If so that's about $1.70 US, which is VERY cheap compared to the sandwiches I get at my local super ($2.5 at the cheapest)  ;D We need an automat here.

yes. FEBO is pretty cheap because there are saving greatly on employees. after all, there's just one person neccesary to refil the 'wall'

There would be scope for steam-powered and -heated vendor's carts and barrows: pie-ovens, chestnut-roasters, baked-potato ovens, thing-on-a-kebab skewer charcoal grills or gear-driven rotisseries, and of course the Muffin Man.



Although while looking for an apt image, I found I didn't really know the Muffin Man after all...


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Re: Steampunk Burgers & Assorted Fast Foods ??
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2015, 11:45:52 pm »
I had already introduced a type of easy DIY bread and Sandwich, with a Steampunk back story:

Luftschiff Brötchen und Cloudbrot (Admiral Wilhelm's own invention)

The Luftschiff Brötchen or Airship Rolls, are a type of filled sausage sandwich prepared among the Bavarian crewfolk known as the Luftschiffengel who serve around the world on military Airships

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The bread is similar to an "American Biscuit," in that it is more a type of savoury bread than a sweet bread. Sometimes the bread alone is known as Wolkenbrot or Cloudbrot (Cloud Bread), because of its unusual spongy nature.

To make Cloudbrot, all you need to do is dry-mix 50% all purpose wheat flour and 50% buttermilk pancake mix - the type that only requires water and nothing else. This is a "no-knead" type bread, so there is no period for rising and in fact you will use a large wooden spoon to prepare the dough.  You mix the flour mix with a pinch of cracked black pepper and salt to taste, and using a wooden spoon add water until it coalesces into a single mass made of sticky dough - so the dough is wet enough to stick to everything, but otherwise rather dense and unkneaded.

For a large roll (2 servings) use 1/3 cup of flour and 1/3 cup pancake flour, preferably using Buttermilk pancake flour and with 1/2 teaspoon of crushed pepper and similar of Kosher salt. Sprinkle plenty of flour onto a baking sheet and place the dough in the centre of the sheet and sprinkle plenty of flour on top.  Do not be afraid to use a lot of dry flour - the dough is very sticky and you will need all the "dust" you can to keep the bun from sticking and in shape.

Bread alone with no filling: Wolkenbrot / Cloudbrot

A suggestion is a rectangular shape for the bun. After the (2-serving) bun is shaped on the baking sheet, place a slice of butter on top of the bread and bake in a 420F / 215C oven for 8-10 minutes or until the top is golden brown.

Filled bread Sandwich: Luftschiff Brötchen

Flatten a two-serving portion of Cloudbrot on a baking sheet.  Flatten into a rectangular pancake wide enough to fit two (20 cm-long, 2cm dia) links of sausage, leaving a 1 cm gap between the two links.  The idea is to completely wrap the two sausage links in the Cloudbrot and use the gap between the sausages to introduce a sauce, cheese or sauerkraut.

A suggestion is to fill the gap between the sausage links with a slice of cream cheese and a generous streak of horseradish brown mustard. Close the package by stretching two "flaps" of the Clodbrot pancake (Brötchen) on top of the sausage and filling.  Use a bit of water and pinch the bread on top and the ends to make a perfectly sealed pocket.  Put two pats of butter (1/8 teaspoon salted butter) on top of the Brötchen before baking

Bake at 420F / 215C for 10-12 minutes or until the top is golden brown.

EDIT: There are some variants to those recipe.  Most notably there is one which uses Mozzarella cheese and Bolognese and even Marinara sauce among the Luftschiffengel from the Italian-speaking region of Ticino and in the southern part of Graubünden (Canton Grigioni).  

Is this a variation of the klobasnek?

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Re: Steampunk Burgers & Assorted Fast Foods ??
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2015, 01:04:33 am »
I had already introduced a type of easy DIY bread and Sandwich, with a Steampunk back story:

Luftschiff Brötchen und Cloudbrot (Admiral Wilhelm's own invention)

The Luftschiff Brötchen or Airship Rolls, are a type of filled sausage sandwich prepared among the Bavarian crewfolk known as the Luftschiffengel who serve around the world on military Airships

Luftschiffelgel Definition: http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20391.msg916296.html#msg916296

Background History: http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20391.msg923528.html#msg923528

The bread is similar to an "American Biscuit," in that it is more a type of savoury bread than a sweet bread. Sometimes the bread alone is known as Wolkenbrot or Cloudbrot (Cloud Bread), because of its unusual spongy nature.

To make Cloudbrot, all you need to do is dry-mix 50% all purpose wheat flour and 50% buttermilk pancake mix - the type that only requires water and nothing else. This is a "no-knead" type bread, so there is no period for rising and in fact you will use a large wooden spoon to prepare the dough.  You mix the flour mix with a pinch of cracked black pepper and salt to taste, and using a wooden spoon add water until it coalesces into a single mass made of sticky dough - so the dough is wet enough to stick to everything, but otherwise rather dense and unkneaded.

For a large roll (2 servings) use 1/3 cup of flour and 1/3 cup pancake flour, preferably using Buttermilk pancake flour and with 1/2 teaspoon of crushed pepper and similar of Kosher salt. Sprinkle plenty of flour onto a baking sheet and place the dough in the centre of the sheet and sprinkle plenty of flour on top.  Do not be afraid to use a lot of dry flour - the dough is very sticky and you will need all the "dust" you can to keep the bun from sticking and in shape.

Bread alone with no filling: Wolkenbrot / Cloudbrot

A suggestion is a rectangular shape for the bun. After the (2-serving) bun is shaped on the baking sheet, place a slice of butter on top of the bread and bake in a 420F / 215C oven for 8-10 minutes or until the top is golden brown.

Filled bread Sandwich: Luftschiff Brötchen

Flatten a two-serving portion of Cloudbrot on a baking sheet.  Flatten into a rectangular pancake wide enough to fit two (20 cm-long, 2cm dia) links of sausage, leaving a 1 cm gap between the two links.  The idea is to completely wrap the two sausage links in the Cloudbrot and use the gap between the sausages to introduce a sauce, cheese or sauerkraut.

A suggestion is to fill the gap between the sausage links with a slice of cream cheese and a generous streak of horseradish brown mustard. Close the package by stretching two "flaps" of the Clodbrot pancake (Brötchen) on top of the sausage and filling.  Use a bit of water and pinch the bread on top and the ends to make a perfectly sealed pocket.  Put two pats of butter (1/8 teaspoon salted butter) on top of the Brötchen before baking

Bake at 420F / 215C for 10-12 minutes or until the top is golden brown.

EDIT: There are some variants to those recipe.  Most notably there is one which uses Mozzarella cheese and Bolognese and even Marinara sauce among the Luftschiffengel from the Italian-speaking region of Ticino and in the southern part of Graubünden (Canton Grigioni). 

Is this a variation of the klobasnek?

That's an interesting observation. Mr. GCCC. Even though I invented the dough in my kitchen and entirely made up the story around my fictitious Luftschiffengelfolk, it seems to be solidly related to real food. Mayhaps s type of cultural telepathy? I'll have to work the Bavarian - Czech alternative historical connection.

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Re: Steampunk Burgers & Assorted Fast Foods ??
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2015, 01:20:59 am »




yes. FEBO is pretty cheap because there are saving greatly on employees. after all, there's just one person neccesary to refil the 'wall'

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 If that one person gets bored - do they  stick their hand through the    slots  to scare people ?  :o ;)

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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2015, 01:38:53 am »
That's an interesting observation. Mr. GCCC. Even though I invented the dough in my kitchen and entirely made up the story around my fictitious Luftschiffengelfolk, it seems to be solidly related to real food. Mayhaps s type of cultural telepathy? I'll have to work the Bavarian - Czech alternative historical connection.

I just thought it might be the inspiration, what with you being in the Hill Country, and all. Less cultural telepathy than subliminal? Either way, it's genius, and perfect food for aeronauts and busy ground dwellers alike.

Since my question was based on where I live, I got to thinking what might be Steampunk fast food elsewhere in the 19th Century...

West Coast (USA):  Flying fish tacos.

Texas:  Pleurocoelus chili.

New England:  Kraken chowder.

Australia:  Fried bunyip.

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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2015, 06:27:06 am »
That's an interesting observation. Mr. GCCC. Even though I invented the dough in my kitchen and entirely made up the story around my fictitious Luftschiffengelfolk, it seems to be solidly related to real food. Mayhaps s type of cultural telepathy? I'll have to work the Bavarian - Czech alternative historical connection.

I just thought it might be the inspiration, what with you being in the Hill Country, and all. Less cultural telepathy than subliminal? Either way, it's genius, and perfect food for aeronauts and busy ground dwellers alike.

Since my question was based on where I live, I got to thinking what might be Steampunk fast food elsewhere in the 19th Century...

West Coast (USA):  Flying fish tacos.

Texas:  Pleurocoelus chili.

New England:  Kraken chowder.

Australia:  Fried bunyip.

Meiji Era Japan: Flying Squid Ikayaki.

Ikayaki (definition, Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikayaki)

Ikayaki (いか焼き, イカ焼き or 烏賊焼?, baked or grilled squid) is a popular fast food in Japan. In much of Japan, the term refers to simple grilled squid topped with soy sauce; the portion of squid served may be the whole body (minus entrails), rings cut from the body, or one or more tentacles, depending on the size.[1] Ikayaki is served in many izakayas and a grilled tentacle on a stick is popular at Japanese festivals.

Flying Squid Ikayaki became popular among Japanese airship crewmen during the Meiji Period, especially in the last decade of the 19th.C, when obsolete Sumptuary laws were finally abolished. Tentacle Ikayaki and sushi were previously type of snacks available only to the Emperor, but local Shoguns illegally used to feast on it.  As it was forbidden by Sumptuary laws among the Shogunate, it was also not available to common people.

But all that changed with the Japanese  constitution of 1889, when Emperor Meiji abolished the Shogunate and declared that his subjects could also consume many of the delicacies forbidded by Sumptuary laws.  Most famous among the vendors of Tentacle Ikayaki was "Old Man of Nagano," Ishikawa, Akane, who became famous for mooring his steamboat restaurant and casino along the shores of the Shinano River.  Enjoying of much success, Ishikawa expanded his business to a fleet of 10 Steamboats and 5 Airship restaurant/casinos with the blessing from the Emperor.

Empress Shōken visits one of Ishikawa's ships (undated, C. 1892)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0mxHIcaug0#

Ikayaki vendor at Ueno Park

Now you have to decide which part of this story is real and which is fictitious  ;)  :D
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Re: Steampunk Burgers & Assorted Fast Foods ??
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2015, 06:56:21 am »


snacks from the wall are the best snacks

Do I read €1,50 for that sandwich correctly?  :o  If so that's about $1.70 US, which is VERY cheap compared to the sandwiches I get at my local super ($2.5 at the cheapest)  ;D We need an automat here.

yes. FEBO is pretty cheap because there are saving greatly on employees. after all, there's just one person neccesary to refil the 'wall'

What if the "person" behind the wall is a trained octopus instead?  Wouldn't a trained octopus with so many tentacles be an ideal employee to replace all the missing dishes? ::)  ;D

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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2015, 07:02:29 am »




yes. FEBO is pretty cheap because there are saving greatly on employees. after all, there's just one person neccesary to refil the 'wall'

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love that

 If that one person gets bored - do they  stick their hand through the    slots  to scare people ?  :o ;)

heh. never had that happen, luckily, but it sounds like a good prank


snacks from the wall are the best snacks

Do I read €1,50 for that sandwich correctly?  :o  If so that's about $1.70 US, which is VERY cheap compared to the sandwiches I get at my local super ($2.5 at the cheapest)  ;D We need an automat here.

yes. FEBO is pretty cheap because there are saving greatly on employees. after all, there's just one person neccesary to refil the 'wall'

What if the "person" behind the wall is a trained octopus instead?  Wouldn't a trained octopus with so many tentacles be an ideal employee to replace all the missing dishes? ::)  ;D

that'd be really cool actually

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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2015, 07:04:58 am »
that'd be really cool actually

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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2015, 03:07:57 pm »
...Now you have to decide which part of this story is real and which is fictitious  ;)  :D

Well, obviously the bit about the Shogunate and the "Sumptuary laws" is the fictitious bit, since we all know shoguns were an invention of James Clavell...  ;)

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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2015, 04:54:18 pm »
This just reminded me of old man Kamaji, the "spider" operator of the boiler room in the animated movie Spirited Away

http://spiritedaway.wikia.com/wiki/Kamaji

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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2015, 10:29:50 pm »
This is from before our time period, but the activity described would surely not be out-of-place in our hypothetical Steampunk fast-food milieu:

William Hogart's The Shrimp Girl (c. 1740-45)


From its Wikipedia entry:

"...In its subject matter, it resembles the prints of hawkers and traders popular in Hogarth's day.

The painting depicts a woman selling shellfish on the streets of London, typically a job for the wives and daughters of fishmongers who owned stalls in markets such as Billingsgate. The subject balances a large basket on her head, bearing shrimps and mussels, together with a half-pint pewter pot as a measure..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shrimp_Girl

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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2015, 10:52:29 pm »
There is a small chain of sandwich shops in Michigan called "Nemo's". Regular sandwich shop; not an automat, not steampunk themed.

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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2015, 01:42:24 am »
Does she live on Drury Lane?...;)

I imagine something with a top and bottom you put the burger in, close it, live steam goes through...though they have that sort of thing now.


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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2015, 05:43:50 am »
read the title and pictured a barvarian mayor eating a Chicago style liverwurst. his really skinny ankles are haunting me.

hmmm, wonder whats in the fridge? ;D

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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2015, 07:05:23 am »
I figured something similar to an automat, though with the food being sent through vacuum tubes. You could cover the whole city that way.
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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2015, 04:10:36 am »
I figured something similar to an automat, though with the food being sent through vacuum tubes. You could cover the whole city that way.

Visually very intriguing. I can see that easily in Steampunk art or literature.

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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2021, 04:23:42 am »
There already sort of was steampunk fast food:



This was Horn and Hardart, AKA "The Automat", circa 1901 in New York and Philadelphia. More or less freshly cooked food items could be purchased from a wall of small coin-activated doors. Automat originated at the Munich Zoo, and was adopted elsewhere. In America I don't think that it got mus farther than the eastern seaboard, though I have a very fuzzy childhood memory of buying a hotdog from a coin-op wall someplace in Chicago, probably O'Hare Airport.
 
Having filled the market in New York and Philadelphia, Horn and Hardart expanded no more. Like an ancient emperor, they seemed to have thought that they had conquered the known world. And like an ancient empire, they were brought down by barbarians from the wild lands. In the second half of the 20th century they started to lose market share to the big fast food chains, most of which had been founded in the American Midwest. Horn and Hardart closed its last automat restaurant before the end of the century.

Some of the old menus are on the internet:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Horn+and+Hardart+menu&es_sm=93&biw=1366&bih=599&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMIz_bNgt_6xwIVQXs-Ch1iTQ6A#imgrc=JejmAFc03ZVISM%3A
Just found this on YouTube:

HORN & HARDART AUTOMAT - Life in America
By the power of caffeine do I set my mind in motion
By the Beans of Life do my thoughts acquire speed
My hands acquire a shaking
The shaking becomes a warning
By the power of caffeine do I set my mind in motion
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