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Author Topic: What items of modern clothing would be IMPOSSIBLE to make Steampunk? ;)  (Read 5727 times)
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« on: August 17, 2015, 09:25:41 pm »

So someone on another thread mentioned Converse All-Stars as being difficult to make Steampunk. So what clothing you think would be IMPOSSIBLE to incorporate into a credible outfit? Or at least, very, very hard?

I need a project, and I am a sucker for the seemingly impossible, so I may well pick a suggestion and try to make it work - with pictures. Hilarity may ensue.

Discussion as to how one might make a Steampunk outfit from an improbable item is also welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2015, 10:05:42 pm »

Oh, you've thrown down a gauntlet there, so I therefore hereby challenge you to...

make a Steampunk outfit with ANY item of clothing made from day-glo lycra,

or failing that, a polyester tracksuit.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2015, 10:29:34 pm »

Fluffy neon boa with silver bits in it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2015, 10:42:43 pm »

So someone on another thread mentioned Converse All-Stars as being difficult to make Steampunk. So what clothing you think would be IMPOSSIBLE to incorporate into a credible outfit? Or at least, very, very hard?

I need a project, and I am a sucker for the seemingly impossible, so I may well pick a suggestion and try to make it work - with pictures. Hilarity may ensue.

Discussion as to how one might make a Steampunk outfit from an improbable item is also welcome.


I steampunked a pair of converse for casual wear, so it's not impossible. I did however start with a pinstripe pair, very similar to http://www.amazon.de/Converse-Chucks-Nadelstreifen-1T009-39-5/dp/B0027DGNIG.
I added lace trim and cameos to the back and ribbon laces. Non-traditional, but I liked them and they were really comfortable - until I wore them to death in Paris.

All the other suggestions in this thread are awesome though and may prove to be impossible. In terms of footwear, I reckon it's impossible to steampunk a pair of Crocs...
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2015, 10:47:10 pm »

In some ways I think that it can be a bit of a  blind alley to talk about 'making something steampunk' as that tends to reduce it  to a styling exercise.

I tend to feel that one of the distinctive things about SP is that it tends to involve quite a complex mix of objects and narrative so it's very difficult to pick out individual elements without a context and say whether they are 'steampunk' or not.

A big part of this is that it is really all about creating hybrids between (lets say for the sake of simplicity) 19th century industrial and modern culture/technology and the 'steamyness' comes from this teasing out of differences and similarities.

If we take converse allstars as an example, they are basically canvas shoes with rubber soles which is about as Victorian as you can get, the problem is not that they are too modern but that they are an old thing which has stuck around so there's no tension between old and new to explore.

Again the most interesting steampunk stuff tends to be where you can come up with something which is a surprising combination which makes sense once you've seen it rathern than predictable Victorian reenactment or pastiche or just adding obvious victorian design cues to something modern.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2015, 11:04:02 pm »

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make a Steampunk outfit with ANY item of clothing made from day-glo lycra,

or failing that, a polyester tracksuit.

Bahaha! I sense the beginnings of a sub-genre, Neon-Steam... a bit like Pastelgoth... only horrible.

Converse was just the trigger really. The conclusion on the other thread was that Converse are indeed very close to being Steampunk in their own right as they came out in 1917 and haven't really changed much since. Those pinstripe ones are lush btw.

Narsil, when I say 'make something Steampunk' I think I meant very much what you describe. Indeed, I'm kind of interested in thinking of items of modern-day clothing that will stretch the tension between old and new to its limits... and then to make blending them credible, even when it seems, on the face of it, to be completely nonsensical. But... it is also a styling exercise. Wink

I am genuinely going to think about the day-glo lycra, btw!
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2015, 11:08:48 pm »

Time travel, , multi dimensional, inner dimensional multi universe travel.... Steam is one thing. But the word Punk covers a lot of ground.

Giving it some thought and the only thing I can think of us body paint. Not that you couldn't. But It would be really ruff to walk around at a convention with nothing but body paint on. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2015, 11:30:14 pm »

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make a Steampunk outfit with ANY item of clothing made from day-glo lycra,

or failing that, a polyester tracksuit.


Bahaha! I sense the beginnings of a sub-genre, Neon-Steam... a bit like Pastelgoth... only horrible.

Converse was just the trigger really. The conclusion on the other thread was that Converse are indeed very close to being Steampunk in their own right as they came out in 1917 and haven't really changed much since. Those pinstripe ones are lush btw.

Narsil, when I say 'make something Steampunk' I think I meant very much what you describe. Indeed, I'm kind of interested in thinking of items of modern-day clothing that will stretch the tension between old and new to its limits... and then to make blending them credible, even when it seems, on the face of it, to be completely nonsensical. But... it is also a styling exercise. Wink

I am genuinely going to think about the day-glo lycra, btw!


I think for day glo lycra you would have to look at the early incarnations of athletic and swimwear. In fact sport in general was one of the big influences in the development of modern clothing styles, especially as sport became more of a public spectacle and games like rugby, football and tennis, which required more specialist clothing than some of the more traditional pursuits started to become big things. Not cricket obviously as you can happily play that in full evening dress if you want.

Even for something like a polyester tracksuit it's not that hard to imagine an orientalist style one with silks and brocades.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2015, 01:49:54 am »

(Not quite the DIY outfit I promised, but I look awful in lycra, so have a sketch and accompanying news article instead. Full disclosure: I pinched a fashion silhouette from the internet to trace over.)

"A curious and troubling new sport has taken the youth of London by storm and is rapidly spreading through the nation's hidden basements. Nicknamed 'raving' by its practitioners due to their insane appearance and manner, the sport involves a kind of tribal dancing, stepping from one foot to the other to a fast, repetitive drum-beat, occasionally with some chanting accompaniment, although nothing resembling traditional music. Practitioners will often dance for upwards of four hours in secret 'dens' around the city, sometimes using spinning lamps and phosphoric paints to send them into a trance-like state. Such men and women consider their ritual to be greatly uplifting, and report experiencing deep feelings of euphoria and affection for their fellow man -- though this is likely to be an effect of the exotic substances routinely taken to maintain the stamina required for such activity, rather than a profound spiritual reaction.

A most alarming aspect of this craze is the clothing 'ravers' don to participate - males typically wear common sportswear and bathing suits, and even female participants have been known to wear fitted suits in the style of bathers, showing considerable arm, leg and décolletage, dyed in popular modern colours. Men and women also both wear fur warmers on their arms and legs, similarly lurid, for the purpose of preventing cramps during long sessions. Such immodesty and bizarre behaviour is sure to be very damaging to their health and reputation, and we can only hope that this is a passing fad."

http://pasteboard.co/2NzaFNEc.jpg
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2015, 02:16:33 am »

Bathing suits - that starts with "B" and that rhymes with "T" and that sta-a-a-a-ands for Trouble.

(with apologies to "The Music Man")
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2015, 07:29:22 am »

I'd like to see someone make a Steampunk outfit using what seems to be the default summer male casual attire here in western Canada; a baggy butt-length T-shirt, usually with a beer logo or sports team logo on the front, worn outside baggy, knee-length surfer's shorts decorated with palm trees in day-glo colours, a baseball cap worn backwards - also with a sports team logo (usually different from the T-shirt), and plastic flipflops. You need to be about 75 or 80lbs overweight, all in the waist area, and with a shaved head, to really carry off this style. Accessories might include a twelve-pack of American lager, an ipod loaded with hip-hop complete with ear buds, and a pit bull terrier on a long leash.

Good luck Grin

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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2015, 08:52:30 am »

A better challenge would be to create summer men's wear that is at the same time steampunk and cool and comfortable.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2015, 09:17:56 am »

(Not quite the DIY outfit I promised, but I look awful in lycra, so have a sketch and accompanying news article instead. Full disclosure: I pinched a fashion silhouette from the internet to trace over.)

"A curious and troubling new sport has taken the youth of London by storm and is rapidly spreading through the nation's hidden basements. Nicknamed 'raving' by its practitioners due to their insane appearance and manner, the sport involves a kind of tribal dancing, stepping from one foot to the other to a fast, repetitive drum-beat, occasionally with some chanting accompaniment, although nothing resembling traditional music. Practitioners will often dance for upwards of four hours in secret 'dens' around the city, sometimes using spinning lamps and phosphoric paints to send them into a trance-like state. Such men and women consider their ritual to be greatly uplifting, and report experiencing deep feelings of euphoria and affection for their fellow man -- though this is likely to be an effect of the exotic substances routinely taken to maintain the stamina required for such activity, rather than a profound spiritual reaction.

A most alarming aspect of this craze is the clothing 'ravers' don to participate - males typically wear common sportswear and bathing suits, and even female participants have been known to wear fitted suits in the style of bathers, showing considerable arm, leg and décolletage, dyed in popular modern colours. Men and women also both wear fur warmers on their arms and legs, similarly lurid, for the purpose of preventing cramps during long sessions. Such immodesty and bizarre behaviour is sure to be very damaging to their health and reputation, and we can only hope that this is a passing fad."

http://pasteboard.co/2NzaFNEc.jpg


Ok, you've surprised me since I could sort of seeing that working....
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2015, 09:56:43 am »

This is Nerfpunk Steampunk artists who made their outfits match their Nerf guns  as opposed to the other way on.

http://www.steampunkchronicle.com/ArticleView/tabid/238/ArticleId/111/The-Adventures-of-Steam-Valkyrie-The-Convention-of-Dragons.aspx
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2015, 01:28:39 pm »

This is Nerfpunk Steampunk artists who made their outfits match their Nerf guns  as opposed to the other way on.

http://www.steampunkchronicle.com/ArticleView/tabid/238/ArticleId/111/The-Adventures-of-Steam-Valkyrie-The-Convention-of-Dragons.aspx


Ha, love it!

A better challenge would be to create summer men's wear that is at the same time steampunk and cool and comfortable.


Perhaps something like Narsil's oriental tracksuit idea?  Cheesy

I'd like to see someone make a Steampunk outfit using what seems to be the default summer male casual attire here in western Canada; a baggy butt-length T-shirt, usually with a beer logo or sports team logo on the front, worn outside baggy, knee-length surfer's shorts decorated with palm trees in day-glo colours, a baseball cap worn backwards - also with a sports team logo (usually different from the T-shirt), and plastic flipflops. You need to be about 75 or 80lbs overweight, all in the waist area, and with a shaved head, to really carry off this style. Accessories might include a twelve-pack of American lager, an ipod loaded with hip-hop complete with ear buds, and a pit bull terrier on a long leash.


Such men seem to exist everywhere, in uncannily similar uniforms. I expect there was a Victorian equivalent, too. I feel another sketch coming on after work  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2015, 03:28:03 pm »

Someone once suggested Baseball caps as being the most un-Steampunk thing to wear.

However, research will show that the game has been around since at least 1845 and the caps were worn back then.

I have yet to see evidence of a Victorian gentleman wearing one backwards though....  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2015, 03:30:12 pm »

Someone once suggested Baseball caps as being the most un-Steampunk thing to wear.

However, research will show that the game has been around since at least 1845 and the caps were worn back then.

I have yet to see evidence of a Victorian gentleman wearing one backwards though....  Wink

If you wore a baseball cap backwards would the goggles go at the front or the back?

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2015, 11:21:21 pm »

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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2015, 07:53:05 pm »

I'd think that anything with a very strong association with another time would be difficult to steampunk. I'm thinking specifically of women's clothes from the mid twentieth century. A good challenge would be to start an outfit with pedal pushers and a boat neck top and go on from there. Steampunk Laura Petrie from the Dick van Dyke show?
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2015, 09:05:35 pm »

Bathing suits - that starts with "B" and that rhymes with "T" and that sta-a-a-a-ands for Trouble.

(with apologies to "The Music Man")

That's NOT how you spell "Speedo"!
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2015, 03:20:48 am »

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Bathing suits - that starts with "B" and that rhymes with "T" and that sta-a-a-a-ands for Trouble.

(with apologies to "The Music Man")

That's NOT how you spell "Speedo"!

I do humbly apologize but "...that starts with spee"  sounded silly.    

or rude.
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2015, 05:15:01 am »

I
Bathing suits - that starts with "B" and that rhymes with "T" and that sta-a-a-a-ands for Trouble.

(with apologies to "The Music Man")

That's NOT how you spell "Speedo"!

I do humbly apologize but "...that starts with spee"  sounded silly.  

or rude.

You went over my head that time, but we were obviously on the same page.
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2015, 05:16:20 am »

Only teachers have eyes in the backs of their heads.

Mothers do.  Don't forget mothers...
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2015, 07:05:24 am »

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make a Steampunk outfit with ANY item of clothing made from day-glo lycra,

or failing that, a polyester tracksuit.


Bahaha! I sense the beginnings of a sub-genre, Neon-Steam... a bit like Pastelgoth... only horrible.

Converse was just the trigger really. The conclusion on the other thread was that Converse are indeed very close to being Steampunk in their own right as they came out in 1917 and haven't really changed much since. Those pinstripe ones are lush btw.

Narsil, when I say 'make something Steampunk' I think I meant very much what you describe. Indeed, I'm kind of interested in thinking of items of modern-day clothing that will stretch the tension between old and new to its limits... and then to make blending them credible, even when it seems, on the face of it, to be completely nonsensical. But... it is also a styling exercise. Wink

I am genuinely going to think about the day-glo lycra, btw!


I think for day glo lycra you would have to look at the early incarnations of athletic and swimwear. In fact sport in general was one of the big influences in the development of modern clothing styles, especially as sport became more of a public spectacle and games like rugby, football and tennis, which required more specialist clothing than some of the more traditional pursuits started to become big things. Not cricket obviously as you can happily play that in full evening dress if you want.

Even for something like a polyester tracksuit it's not that hard to imagine an orientalist style one with silks and brocades.


I've got an idea for an Asian Steampunk outfit, based on a Cheongsam or Tang shirt and I just realised that a $16 pair of Walmart black faux-velvet skate shoes look very similar to a traditional Chinese shoe

OP brand black-velvet skate shoes ($16 at Walmart)


Chinese "Kung Fu" shoes:
http://www.goodorient.com/Chinese_Traditional_Kung_Fu_Shoes_P23102
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 09:01:30 pm »

CROCS!

Noooo, not the living kind with lasers on their heads, either...
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