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« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2015, 07:55:06 pm »

Oh you know, nature stuff like courting and mating rituals. Of course it's dangerous if you also try to tag them.  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2015, 09:33:19 pm »

The Big Game Cheerleader has now been driven out of the woodwork.  Oh, dear.  What next?  A toddler with a weapon taped to his chubby hands?










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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2015, 12:55:19 am »

Looks a bit like 'Clarence the cross-eyed Lion'.

When & where - looks a bit set-up to me.
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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2015, 10:28:43 am »

The other good thing about photographic hunting is you can hunt people without being sent to prison.
That depends on what they're doing when you shoot them. Wink

Ok that's fair. If I may amend: On average, you can hunt more people without being sent to prison.
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« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2015, 11:31:59 am »

The other good thing about photographic hunting is you can hunt people without being sent to prison.


Whilst it is perfectly legal to shoot people in a public place without their consent, you can still be arrested for stalking them prior to taking aim. The police also get a little touchy if you use cannons or rifle butts.

For small prey, this works quite well..


For larger prey, I'd recommend something a bit more substantial.

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« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2015, 12:58:07 pm »

The Big Game Cheerleader has now been driven out of the woodwork.  Oh, dear.  What next?  A toddler with a weapon taped to his chubby hands?


I realise that healthy competition in cheer-leading circles is a necessary evil required to push the performance. But it might be time to stop when your blowing the crap out of the savannah just to get your mitts on a set of exclusive pomm-pomm's .








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« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2015, 10:07:25 pm »

"Major U.S. airlines end trophy hunter shipments after Cecil outcry"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/major-us-airlines-end-trophy-hunter-shipments-after-cecil-outcry/ar-BBlnzb3?ocid=mailsignout

Excerpted from the article:

"Three U.S. airlines have banned the transport of lion, leopard, elephant, rhino or buffalo killed by trophy hunters, in the latest fallout from the killing of Zimbabwe's Cecil the lion last month..."

The article also discusses the actions taken by airlines of other countries.
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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2015, 10:59:54 am »

"Major U.S. airlines end trophy hunter shipments after Cecil outcry"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/major-us-airlines-end-trophy-hunter-shipments-after-cecil-outcry/ar-BBlnzb3?ocid=mailsignout

Excerpted from the article:

"Three U.S. airlines have banned the transport of lion, leopard, elephant, rhino or buffalo killed by trophy hunters, in the latest fallout from the killing of Zimbabwe's Cecil the lion last month..."

The article also discusses the actions taken by airlines of other countries.


At which point said gap in the market will be promptly filled by a private contractor. If your rich enough to take out the animal your rich enough to find a way of getting the parts home.

"Welcome to rare and dead airlines where we specialise in a bespoke grassland to mantle piece service for all your 'sports kill' needs.

Our in plane taxidermists work in pressurised suits so the cabin can remain unpressurised keeping your trophy as fresh as the day you put it down.

Customs is cleared in advance making sure there is no delay.

We pride ourselves on supplying your kill mounted and ready to display, faster than you can get home and crack open that bottle of hunters brandy you've been saving, in eight out of ten occasions.

So next time your out in the wild consider Rare and Dead airlines our customers may only fly once but we've had no complaints so far......"


Consumerism doesn't care. If there is profit to be made. Then it will be. You have to make the whole thing unprofitable, physically and morally.
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« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2015, 05:08:09 pm »

I'll have the head if up for grabs, not a fan of killing stuff but I like a bit of taxidermy now and then, go figure....... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2015, 01:47:33 am »

I'll have the head if up for grabs, not a fan of killing stuff but I like a bit of taxidermy now and then, go figure....... Roll Eyes

Yeah, I've actually picked up some pieces over the years from flea markets and the like (none that I still have, unfortunately). Between that and being an unrepentant carnivore, I fully embrace my own hypocrisy, but I just don't enjoy taking a life.
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« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2015, 06:01:41 am »

oops.
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« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2015, 04:04:50 pm »

oops.

Depending on the nature of your "oops", you may either open a window or be excused... Wink
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« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2015, 05:23:52 pm »

Actually, I had posted an extremely scathing rant; To put the whole couple of thousand bits of invective into one short and hopefully less-insulting form, let us first repeat that adage that is so popular for teachers to post in the classroom:

"What is popular is not always right; what is right is not always popular."

Right now, on here, in this thread, it is apparently popular with one or more individuals to advocate malicious gossip about, and the hounding to ruination of, a person.

It's popular; that does not mean that it's right to do so.

And et cetera. But, since my original comment used extemely insulting language, and because we're supposed to "be splendid to one another,"  I erased it and put "oops."

Which do the rest of you prefer?
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« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2015, 07:21:26 pm »

Actually, I had posted an extremely scathing rant; To put the whole couple of thousand bits of invective into one short and hopefully less-insulting form, let us first repeat that adage that is so popular for teachers to post in the classroom:

"What is popular is not always right; what is right is not always popular."

Right now, on here, in this thread, it is apparently popular with one or more individuals to advocate malicious gossip about, and the hounding to ruination of, a person.

It's popular; that does not mean that it's right to do so.

And et cetera. But, since my original comment used extemely insulting language, and because we're supposed to "be splendid to one another,"  I erased it and put "oops."

Which do the rest of you prefer?

I'm completely open to a discussion of ethics, but that may lead down a path that violates our Prime Directive.

For myself, I interpret the bulk of the commentary on this thread to be the condemnation of the actions of a criminal, one with a history of similar criminal action, regardless one's personal views of hunting. We've been giving our personal opinions/beliefs/convictions regarding hunting as an addendum to a generally held communal disgust with the actions of a few operating outside the law.

I am given to understand that some other hunters have been persecuted, such as the woman who posed with the dead giraffe, and the man who won the bidding to kill an endangered black rhino, but as near as I've been able to ascertain they acted within the law. While I am personally appalled by their activities, any ire I feel against them should be directed at changing/modifying the existing laws rather than at them personally.

I don't know which of the two situations you were referring to, but if the latter then I'm likely in agreement with you. If the former, then we may have to politely agree to disagree.

Ultimately, we may condemn the choices made by any of the individuals based on our personal opinions/beliefs/convictions, but any anger/disgust/dismay we may or may not feel should be focused appropriately based upon whether or not their actions were legal.
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« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2015, 09:16:34 pm »

Whatever. I'll just wait for the pendulum to swing.

Have a nice day.
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« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2015, 03:35:22 am »

Picketing a person's place of business is an acceptable form of protest.

Vandalizing that person's house, on the other hand, is most definitely not acceptable.

"Home of lion hunter Walter Palmer, dentist who killed Cecil, vandalized"
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/home-lion-hunter-walter-palmer-dentist-who-killed-cecil-vandalized

(Okay, I'll admit that leaving a jar of lion-shaped cookies on the porch is cheeky, although doing so is still stalker-ish behavior and just over the line for acceptable behavior.)
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« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2015, 03:56:00 am »

"Cecil the lion: 'We knew this is how he would die' "
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/11/africa/zimbabwe-cecil-lion-jericho/

Excerpted from the article (emphasis mine):

"...It was a tragic end for the much-loved lion, if not an altogether surprising one for those who knew him best.

'A big lion like Cecil, if you ask us, we probably knew that is how he was going to die,' Stapelkamp says.

After years of working in near anonymity, Stapelkamp has been at the center of a story that has touched a nerve around the world. The killing of Cecil, a protected animal, sparked international outrage that quickly reached the doorstep of hunter Walter Palmer, who has gone into hiding.

Palmer, an American dentist, allegedly paid around $50,000 to kill Cecil. Park officials claim the hunt was illegal, but Palmer says he did nothing wrong.

Stapelkamp isn't so sure.

'I am quite sure that he knew what he was doing,' he tells CNN. 'He came for the biggest lion he could find and that had been organized for him. Cecil was delivered to him like a pizza.'

Journalists have descended into this corner of Zimbabwe, searching for the cubs that Cecil left behind.

Experts feared the cubs would be killed as part of a power struggle over the pride but Jericho, who ran the pride with Cecil, appears to have taken them in.

Last week several of the cubs were reportedly spotted, alive and well, with the lionesses of the pride by a safari tour in the park..."
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« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2015, 02:04:24 am »


So glad to see those cubs.
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« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2015, 06:43:02 pm »

You and a great many others.
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« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2015, 03:01:34 am »

The politics is admittedly subjective. The method or the failure of which, speaks volumes. 
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« Reply #70 on: August 18, 2015, 03:48:24 am »

The politics is admittedly subjective. The method or the failure of which, speaks volumes. 


Interesting response.  AI?
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« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2015, 10:16:14 pm »

Sorry for the netcromancy, but contrary to many i take the time to see the two side of the medal and make a opinion.

Opinion than Cracked had formulated better than me:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/cecil-lion-made-you-moron-5-stages-facebook-rage/
https://soundcloud.com/crackedpod/ben-franklins-secret-hack-to-make-people-like-you

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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2015, 11:00:22 pm »

I agree with much of this article:  our collective short attention span, our failure to follow through, our hypocrisy, and failing to adequately address root causes.

This does not mean that in this case, we should let this guy off the hook. There is a difference between legal hunting and poaching. He's a poacher, and deserves our bile.

Yes, all the problems pointed out in the article are horrible, and must be addressed. But patrol officers can't catch every speeder, either, can they?

Officer:  Do you know why I pulled you over?
Me:  I was the only one you could catch...?

We absolutely need to address the many, many things more horrible than poaching which afflict our planet and our societies. However, this doesn't mean we shouldn't deal with an a**hole when we catch him.
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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2015, 11:03:25 pm »

On that, i can say we both make good complementary point.

I hovewer would STRONGLY recomend to take a listen to the podcast episode too when time permit as it may teach you to be wary to, when chasing monsters, not becoming a monster yourself.
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« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2015, 12:46:06 am »

Actually, I had posted an extremely scathing rant; To put the whole couple of thousand bits of invective into one short and hopefully less-insulting form, let us first repeat that adage that is so popular for teachers to post in the classroom:

"What is popular is not always right; what is right is not always popular."

Right now, on here, in this thread, it is apparently popular with one or more individuals to advocate malicious gossip about, and the hounding to ruination of, a person.

It's popular; that does not mean that it's right to do so.

And et cetera. But, since my original comment used extemely insulting language, and because we're supposed to "be splendid to one another,"  I erased it and put "oops."

Which do the rest of you prefer?

Splendid. There is a dark resplendence when justified venom richly deserved is in full flow. The Cobra is splendid before it strikes. The explosion splendid before it incinerates. However splendid the victory the bodies still lie strewn all around. I am splendid, but in many ways. Just like you.

I fear that by departmentalizing splendid, into good. We restrict the full ferocity of our nature. A force that is necessary to deal with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and other darker motives deliberately directed into our paths.

Splendid is a responsibility. Not to hide from your self. The light nor the dark.

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