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ProfDelphiniusTucker
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« on: October 22, 2007, 04:30:02 pm »

With the right materials, I think that astronomy could be a necessity for the steampunk gentleman/lady. It would be useful for navigation of the Æthership or other random activities. Or, simply a hobby. Anyhow, does anyone else think this?
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 04:34:06 pm »

How many on here really do have aetherships? Astronomy is fun though. Incidentally do anyone know any 1800s theories on the origin of the universe? Big Bang and Steady State are both rather recent.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 05:31:30 pm »

Here are some telescopes by Normand Fullum of Canada, they might fit right into that environment.  markf

http://www.normandfullumtelescopes.com/index.html

http://www.normandfullumtelescopes.com/pages_e/projects.htm

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 06:16:19 pm »

As a gentleman-scientist, I take no small pleasure in maintaining custody of an Alvan Clarke (1894) refractor. It is situated, at present, in the cupola of our residence. My rural environs are relatively free of artificial light, permitting observations without hindrance of urban glow.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 07:03:18 pm »

As a gentleman-scientist, I take no small pleasure in maintaining custody of an Alvan Clarke (1894) refractor. It is situated, at present, in the cupola of our residence. My rural environs are relatively free of artificial light, permitting observations without hindrance of urban glow.
Ah, nice...
I have an Orion short tube 80mm refractor. I have to use a light pollution filters (usually a broadband, but sometimes I have to dig out the narrowband one..) Don't use it as much as I used to, but with an image corrector it makes a great spotting scope..

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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2007, 12:05:50 am »

There was a scene in a film called The Dark Crystal that had a rather steampunk like planetary model thing (it was on a fictional world, so it wasn't a model of our solar system). It was a big clunking metal thing that would probably only fit in the largest of Victorian observatories.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2007, 12:28:50 am »

Sir Sixsmith,
Was this "clunky" device perchance an armillary sphere?
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2007, 12:33:52 am »

An Orrery, maybe?
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2007, 12:37:21 am »

Sir Sixsmith,
Was this "clunky" device perchance an armillary sphere?

I'm not really sure what that is. It was like a giant, clockwork version of those model solar systems you have to make in elementary school. I'll see if I can find a picture or youtube link of the scene, I'll post it as soon as I find it. It was a Jim Henson movie, perhaps his best(certainly my favorite).
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2007, 01:01:30 am »

Found it!
Hope this works, I haven't posted a picture or link here yet...
A picture.

Youtube (it's only breifly shown).
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2007, 01:43:45 am »


     Dear Mr. Tucker,

     My husband would probably agree with you.  He's an astronomy buff.  When we visited England together, we went to the old Observatory at Greenwich.

     Vienna
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2007, 04:24:25 am »

First the space topic, and now this...such usefulness! Such wonderful timing! At this time, I am editing (okay, re-editing...okay, re-re-re-re-re-editing) a poor, editor-scorched steampunk book in which astronomy is very heavily involved. Thank you all for the inadvertent help.  Tongue A necessity indeed!
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2007, 02:43:07 pm »

Found it!
Hope this works, I haven't posted a picture or link here yet...
A picture.

Youtube (it's only breifly shown).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg


Now *that* is one ueber-nifty...umm... thing. I want one!! -Not really apropos, but does anyone know when the Crooke's Radiometer was invented? -the lightbulbish gizmo with the propeller inside that spins when you hold it up to the light.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2007, 02:56:39 pm »

I have one of thesehttp://www.celestron.uk.com/catalogues/view_item.asp?ItemID=30583&CatalogueID=272&CategoryID=3762 in short tube form - not particularly steampunk but a pretty good telescope. Just saving for one of their top of the range eyepieces with the larger field of view, as wearing glasses makes it rather difficult to use the standard high magnification ones.
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2007, 04:49:15 pm »

If anyone is interested, there is presently a comet visible in the northeast night sky (northern hemisphere).  Appropriately for us, it is named Comet Holmes.

I believe it is in Perseus - at 2100 Eastern Time it will be more or less midway between Cassiopeia (the northern constellation that looks like a letter W), and the moon.  To the naked eye, it will appear to be a somewhat fuzzy star.  I think I might haul out the old celestron refractor and have a look.
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2007, 07:55:25 pm »

If anyone is interested, there is presently a comet visible in the northeast night sky (northern hemisphere).  Appropriately for us, it is named Comet Holmes.

I believe it is in Perseus - at 2100 Eastern Time it will be more or less midway between Cassiopeia (the northern constellation that looks like a letter W), and the moon.  To the naked eye, it will appear to be a somewhat fuzzy star.  I think I might haul out the old celestron refractor and have a look.

You win again light pollution!

I'm now torn. Model trains or a new super-spiffy Celestron eyepiece. The former are a better bet for cold wet evenings, the latter will make my telescope even better...
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2007, 03:37:44 am »

Sir Sixsmith,
Was this "clunky" device perchance an armillary sphere?


I'm not really sure what that is. It was like a giant, clockwork version of those model solar systems you have to make in elementary school. I'll see if I can find a picture or youtube link of the scene, I'll post it as soon as I find it. It was a Jim Henson movie, perhaps his best(certainly my favorite).


The Victorian version is called a Tellurium...

http://www.arsmachina.com/g-tellurium4068.htm

...but is also called a Planetarium.

http://www.arsmachina.com/g-laings4080.htm
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2007, 04:40:00 am »

The Victorian version is called a Tellurium...

http://www.arsmachina.com/g-tellurium4068.htm

Picture saved; this will be useful to me, especially as an opportunity to have fun with less-than-dependable light sources as the sun.
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2007, 09:04:00 pm »

The Victorian version is called a Tellurium...
Picture saved; this will be useful to me, especially as an opportunity to have fun with less-than-dependable light sources as the sun.

Glad you like it.  I have often thought that it resembles everyone on Earth having a giant marshmallow roast...
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2007, 01:36:29 am »

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2007, 08:53:27 pm »

The Victorian version is called a Tellurium...

http://www.arsmachina.com/g-tellurium4068.htm

...but is also called a Planetarium.

http://www.arsmachina.com/g-laings4080.htm


How delightful, thank you for clearing that up.
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2007, 11:33:21 am »

If the more modern sextant isn't to your liking, mayhaps an Astrolabe will suit your fancy?

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For particulars on it's operation, google (goggle?) "Chaucer's Treatise on the Astrolabe". A bit of a challenging read for someone used to modern writing. (ca 1391)

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2007, 01:48:10 pm »

Oh, dear.. That is beautiful..
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2007, 02:03:27 pm »

It is indeed beautiful. Those who can see that may like this site http://astrolabes.org/
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2007, 04:02:40 pm »

As Mr Angus D. Murphy so rightly says, the 'big clunky thing' is in fact an Orrerey. I am a big Dark Crystal fan and have a few books on it, and that is the word they use. And I want one!!!
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