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J. Wilhelm
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« Reply #200 on: March 05, 2019, 11:01:45 pm »


Doesn't look like much of it was left anyway...
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« Reply #201 on: March 06, 2019, 12:26:22 am »

There is something disheartening about so much abandonment. Not the abandonment so much, but that there is just so much of it.
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« Reply #202 on: March 06, 2019, 06:50:38 pm »

You've got a big logomotive plant in a town of 5000 people. The plant closes. The plant sits empty and becomes a commuter town. To renovate the plant for another purpose is expensive, and it is far from larger towns where there is a need for such facilities. It sits empty, decays. Scavengers steel the structural metal and sell it to scrap metal dealers. Eventually the building becomes unsalvageable.
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« Reply #203 on: March 06, 2019, 09:21:33 pm »

You've got a big logomotive plant in a town of 5000 people. The plant closes. The plant sits empty and becomes a commuter town. To renovate the plant for another purpose is expensive, and it is far from larger towns where there is a need for such facilities. It sits empty, decays. Scavengers steel the structural metal and sell it to scrap metal dealers. Eventually the building becomes unsalvageable.

These are the kinds of things that I don't understand. I know that there are abandoned buildings all over the world, but that kind of decay seems odd to me for a 20th C/21st C. 1st World country. You'd think the city would regard such ruins as a public hazard. You hear of some large company (Boeing? Ford? I don't remember) buying an old car to bring it back, but is's a private company doing it out of a sense of civic duty and nostalgia for American industry.
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« Reply #204 on: March 08, 2019, 04:33:33 am »

Looking for a new home. I had a chance to inspect this place:




Not terribly well cared for.
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmwnw9kd
Didn't bother applying.
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« Reply #205 on: March 08, 2019, 11:28:38 pm »

Looking for a new home. I had a chance to inspect this place:

Same comment! Former convent/school, or private/cottage hospital!
Has it really been abandoned - looks in better nick than that!
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« Reply #206 on: March 09, 2019, 04:48:42 am »

Might be my camera washing out all the images, but I didn't know whether to put it here or not (the first floor units are occupied); some of the leadlighting is collapsing inwards, the yard is full of junk, kitchen cupboards rotten and mouldy, mould creeping out from every crevice, big splits in the door panelling where someone may have kicked the door in (I'm thinking the police?), windowsills that look like any attempt to dust them would just grind them to pieces, overgrown garden, huge scars up the exterior walls from dead vines and inside from such things as a missing bathroom mirror, toilet best removed, no laundry or data connections, fridge would have to go into another room outside the kitchen, and would it kill the realtors to remove the cigarette stubs from the bathroom sink before an inspection?

No history available, apart from the fact that it was already rental residences in the 80s, and sometime in the 90s someone there broke into the Queens Hotel, where channel 10 was at the time, and stole some film-making equipment (soon found stashed there, by relevant authorities).

Would suit druggies, robbers, pedo bears and organised criminals looking for a hideout or safe house to base themselves in, in preparation for a major crime.
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« Reply #207 on: March 12, 2019, 02:13:35 am »

You've got a big logomotive plant in a town of 5000 people. The plant closes. The plant sits empty and becomes a commuter town. To renovate the plant for another purpose is expensive, and it is far from larger towns where there is a need for such facilities. It sits empty, decays. Scavengers steel the structural metal and sell it to scrap metal dealers. Eventually the building becomes unsalvageable.


These are the kinds of things that I don't understand. I know that there are abandoned buildings all over the world, but that kind of decay seems odd to me for a 20th C/21st C. 1st World country. You'd think the city would regard such ruins as a public hazard. You hear of some large company (Boeing? Ford? I don't remember) buying an old car to bring it back, but is's a private company doing it out of a sense of civic duty and nostalgia for American industry.


Once a building is "abandonned" it is subject to weather and scavangers (thieves)
scavangers out to steal anything of value, but especially metals to sell as scrap,
do an incredible amount of damage , because, well , they don't care.


Why don't locals keep buildings maintained? basically it comes down to a two basic things

corporations and money


1) corporations have no morality or responsibility. they have only one rule: maximize profits for shareholders.

2) it's cheaper for a corporation to abandon it's facility, write it off , and/or declare bankruptcy
   thus avoiding any liability. After all, the WHOLE POINT of a corporation is to a) raise capital b)minimize or entirely avoid liabilty.

3) no money == no maintenance == water intrusion == collapse in ~ 20 years.

4) ONCE THE CORPORATION ABANDONS THE COMMUNITY, the community no longer has any money to take care
   of existing buildings and infrastructure.

a city may be able to come back - detroit is trying

follow the time-progressive slideshow of detroit suburbs for suburban decay
https://weather.com/travel/news/eerie-before-after-images-urban-decay-detroit#2

french photographers documenting the detroit urban decay in only 25 years
http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit

and the decay of the automotive plants


decay of the Packard Plant thru the years
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2019/01/23/packard-plant-bridge-collapse-detroit/2660893002/


and here's a lovely montage (courtesey the evil Herr Google who steals all our data)
https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&tbs=qdr:y&q=detroit+factory+ruins&tbm=isch&source=lnt&client=firefox-b-1-ab&ved=2ahUKEwjOk4T-pvvgAhUn9IMKHfEfBLIQsAR6BAgAEAE&biw=1366&bih=611

but some "company towns" disappear entirely

here are some examples in the US, mining, lumber, steel mills, paper mills, you name it:
https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/13-all-but-forgotten-company-towns-around-the-country-52301#mcdonald-ohio-carnegie-steel-co

here's 25 Towns Devastated by Losing a Single Company
https://blog.cheapism.com/company-towns-that-died/


here's some from around the world
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/most-stunning-abandoned-towns-around-world

greed and entropy know no bounds .

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« Reply #208 on: March 12, 2019, 02:21:03 am »

Oh Look -

Hell is for sale
again



https://mashable.com/2016/03/11/hell-michigan-sale/#N52.TboHaPq7
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« Reply #209 on: March 12, 2019, 09:18:56 pm »


Hell, Michigan. Historically a bootlegger's hideout. Now a bikers' hangout.

Every cold winter, one of the local TV stations does a "Hell has frozen over" segment. Stations all over the country will broadcast the report and the local station gets paid for it.
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« Reply #210 on: March 13, 2019, 01:09:15 am »


In other words, Hell freezes over quite frequently...

Hell, Michigan. Historically a bootlegger's hideout. Now a bikers' hangout.

Every cold winter, one of the local TV stations does a "Hell has frozen over" segment. Stations all over the country will broadcast the report and the local station gets paid for it.
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« Reply #211 on: March 13, 2019, 11:25:50 am »


Well, if we can't buy our way into Heaven, there is always an alternative....   Cheesy
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« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2019, 12:33:20 pm »

Tasmania has Promised Land, Nowhere else and Paradise. Is that close enough?
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« Reply #213 on: March 15, 2019, 12:25:26 pm »


Hell, Michigan. Historically a bootlegger's hideout. Now a bikers' hangout.

Every cold winter, one of the local TV stations does a "Hell has frozen over" segment. Stations all over the country will broadcast the report and the local station gets paid for it.

They had similar jokes used frequently for Hell, California, but that's completely erased by now, buried under the highway.
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« Reply #214 on: March 16, 2019, 06:55:53 am »

So it's now a Highway to Hell?
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« Reply #215 on: June 29, 2019, 11:51:05 am »

That is a matter of perspective.

Here's one around my new neighbourhood:








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« Reply #216 on: August 26, 2019, 12:34:02 pm »


Gavutu Island.
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« Reply #217 on: May 16, 2020, 06:25:42 am »






More views of the Republic Hotel.
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« Reply #218 on: June 05, 2020, 05:05:42 pm »

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,50991.0.html

https://sparegoggles.forumotion.net/t679-we-seem-to-be-down-again#7709
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« Reply #219 on: June 07, 2020, 05:52:53 am »



Love the detail  Grin  Sent a message to Bullet over Sparegoggles. But the problem is still that we can't get in contact with Proteus and the problem may not reside in the server software. We need to know who is hosting the website and whether they have other servers scattered in Europe that may be compromised.
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« Reply #220 on: June 07, 2020, 09:42:44 am »

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« Reply #221 on: July 27, 2020, 01:15:06 pm »

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