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Only being familiar with Miss Hamer's musical offerings I had no idea she even did this kind of work. It transpires she is a professional facial analyst, and this is the first time this picture has ever been seen this clearly. Personally you may colour me exceptionally impressed. http://www.retronaut.co/2012/07/billy-the-kids-face-restored-c-1880/ |
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 09:57:39 am » |
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You know..the restored colourised version looks so familiar. He reminds me of someone famous..can't quite put my finger on who it is, though.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 10:03:42 am » |
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You know..the restored colourised version looks so familiar. He reminds me of someone famous..can't quite put my finger on who it is, though.
Ron Howard's brother, Clint? |
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 10:15:46 am » |
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Super neat!
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 10:30:21 am » |
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You know..the restored colourised version looks so familiar. He reminds me of someone famous..can't quite put my finger on who it is, though.
Ron Howard's brother, Clint? No..it's not him ( I had to Google him to see what he looked liked and then recognised him as the alien child from Star Trek!) |
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 10:49:43 am » |
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the restoration is easy enough to do on photoshop tho the coloring is really difficult  i couldnt re-color yeah he does look really familiar |
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Argus Fairbrass
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 11:05:27 am » |
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A little Penn perhaps? With a sprinkling of young Daltrey.  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 11:33:45 am » |
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You know..the restored colourised version looks so familiar. He reminds me of someone famous..can't quite put my finger on who it is, though.
Ron Howard's brother, Clint? No..it's not him ( I had to Google him to see what he looked liked and then recognised him as the alien child from Star Trek!) I remember that episode. The droopy eyes and open mouth kind of looks like Billy the Kid was mentally challenged. Or was this a halfway-blinking-during-conversation photograph? Continuing the guess the famous person: what about the banjo player from "Deliverance"? |
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Argus Fairbrass
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 01:52:35 pm » |
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He he, you could be onto something there, I have no idea how young Billy spoke, but looking at that pic I am imagining a southern drawl so twangy you could shoot a rocket to the moon with it.
Anyway as I say I only know Alexandra as a muso, but for once it is no insult to say don't give up your dayjob, cus you're damn good at it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 03:46:57 pm » |
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My shot at "Guess the clone": Rap "singer" Eminem  I think just thoroughly insulted Mr. the Kid. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 09:11:12 pm » |
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Ooh, just found this thread (Thank you Mr Longeye!) Thanks for the very positive comments - particularly from Mr Fairbrass who flatters me beyond my deserts! Incidentally, accent-wise, I believe Billy grew up in New York!
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 01:07:07 am » |
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Not at all dear lady it's a brilliant job. Am I right in assuming it was just a close up crop you worked on or did you do the whole thing? I'm not too familiar with young Billy's origins, but I do know that picture is famous for causing various misconceptions about him. For example due to the fact that it presents a reversed image, a lot of folks even today still believe Billy The Kid was left handed.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 03:24:27 am » |
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Not at all dear lady it's a brilliant job. Am I right in assuming it was just a close up crop you worked on or did you do the whole thing? I'm not too familiar with young Billy's origins, but I do know that picture is famous for causing various misconceptions about him. For example due to the fact that it presents a reversed image, a lot of folks even today still believe Billy The Kid was left handed.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 05:05:43 am » |
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William Henry McCarty, Jr. (later W.H. Bonney) was a New Yorker of Irish descent. He spoke fluent Spanish which he learned during his years in the New Mexico Territory. It is, I believe, now generally conceded that he was right-handed (check the buttons on the waistcoat in the tintype - they are reversed.) He was not at all 'slow,' but was a rather well-spoken literate young man. The best information I have ever seen about Billy the Kid is at the wonderful New Mexico History Museum in Santa Fe, which if you ever have the chance, is not to be missed. They have a nice video showing Billy's penmanship and telling some of the story:
This is an interesting story of the auction of the Billy the Kid tintype:
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 08:53:07 am » |
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Yes, Argus, I worked on a close crop of his face. I managed to find a fairly good copy of it. However, I would love to get my hands on a high quality scan of the original. You are quite right - the original is reversed as is normal for a tintype so my restoration has been re-reversed to show him as he was.
In reply to Prof. Flashbang Box, I agree, photo restoration can be quite easy but actually, this one is surprisingly difficult because there are elements of his face that have to be reconstructed and some of the damage misleads the eye to give a false impression of what lies beneath - his left jawline for example.
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2012, 12:08:42 am » |
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2012, 02:32:44 am » |
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 Hmmmm.... he DOES look very familiar !  Wait a minute.....  You know, you never see these two in the same room together....  SS |
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2012, 08:46:15 am » |
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Hmmmm.... he DOES look very familiar ! Wait a minute..... You know, you never see these two in the same room together.... SS That's it! Just like Superman and Clark Kent, the only difference are the glasses (goggles). |
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2012, 09:18:35 am » |
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Hey!! Hmm, I don't think we look too similar though.. I'll have to dig way, way back to find myself a pic without a bit of facial fuzz.. Did he have blue eyes? Mine are brown, so that wouldn't work too well either.. I think this is the closest pic I could find.. Mehh.. I can pull off the wonky eye, especially when I'm tired, lol.. the nose, maybe.. my mouth is all different though.. Shape of the face is close enough.. but then there's the ears.. lol, I'd have to pin mine to a hat to get 'm to stand out like that..  |
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2012, 09:42:12 am » |
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Honestly, in that picture, Billy the Kid looks like he's stoned |
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2012, 01:26:30 pm » |
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I've got it!! He looks like Chelsea and (former) England football captain, serial adulteror and all round despicable sh!t, John Terry |
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2012, 05:46:49 pm » |
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I've got it!! He looks like Chelsea and (former) England football captain, serial adulteror and all round despicable sh!t, John TerryOooooh thats uncanny !!!! |
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2012, 07:08:17 am » |
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I've got it!! He looks like Chelsea and (former) England football captain, serial adulteror and all round despicable sh!t, John TerryOooooh thats uncanny !!!! Yes it is. They both look stoned. If mister Terry had a crooked front tooth and big ears, he could have been Billy the kid's grandson. |
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2012, 09:09:51 am » |
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A young Shane Macgowan??
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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2012, 09:13:29 am » |
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A young Shane Macgowan??
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