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« on: April 10, 2012, 03:22:06 pm » |
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There have been many opnions and some very heated discussions on the forum in the past about what music evokes a Steampunk feel. So in contrast to that what sort of music conjures up the feeling of large scale science fiction adventure? Star Wars and Star Trek in all their movie variations are a obvious choices here. So ideally I'm looking for music I might have missed or is off the beaten track, regardless of genre, even if it's just one track by one band. I'll kick things off with this |
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 04:35:22 pm » |
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 07:38:16 pm » |
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Kraftwerk.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 07:53:55 pm » |
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Kraftwerk.
Way ahead of you with the German fellows, perhaps I can narrow the field a bit though... So far I've got Star Wars Republic Commando OST and the Dawn of War OST which seem to fit quite well together e.g. Any pointers on the other Jeremy Soule soundtracks? I've heard he's done some sterling work but he's done an awful lot of stuff. Also are the Mass Effect soundtracks any good when divorced from the game? |
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 08:02:58 pm » |
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The soundtrack to the scifi-novel Sobriëtas by Ad Visser (which has, as far as I know, never been translated). Of course, the LP has good quality but the internet only comes up with this:
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 10:16:58 pm » |
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The soundtrack to the scifi-novel Sobriëtas by Ad Visser (which has, as far as I know, never been translated). Of course, the LP has good quality but the internet only comes up with this: Ad Visser - Nostalgia for EarthExactly the sort of stuff I was after! |
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 02:14:44 am » |
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I love Clint Mansell's Mass Effect 3 soundtrack, but a lot of it is very classically influenced. It sounds like you seem to be favouring the older eighties kind of Sci Fi stuff. Bit of Vangelis perhaps? This is one of the more guitar and synth type composisions from The Faunts, with an almost Steve Hillage/Ozric's flavour to it, played at the (gaaah..must...keep...calm!) ahem, end of ME3. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 07:02:46 am » |
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A fair amount of early-ish Tangering Dream (late '70s to mid '80s) has a very similar feel to that Ad Visser sound track. In fact I'd go so far as to say it was heavily influenced by TD. But surely, the idea of a sound track is primarily to evoke or enhance emotion? It seldom, in and of itself, suggests the genre/setting of the movie. A good example is the Empire theme from Star Wars; this suggests a powerful, overbearing military presence, but there is nothing inherently sci-fi about it—that is a purely cultural association because we already know its setting and what it represents. Likewise with the Starship Troopers piece. There are exceptions to this, of course. The sound tracks for both Forbidden Planetand The Day The Earth Stood Stillstill feel inherently 'sci-fi', largely because of their unconventional and futuristic instrumentation. Just my tuppence-worth.  |
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 07:55:01 am » |
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Agreed, which is why you can't beat a bit of Vangelis!  |
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 08:13:28 am » |
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Of course, for classic associations between music and hard sci-fi, you can't forget Richard Strauss' Also sprach Zarathustra.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 08:25:13 am » |
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Rush?
Canada's finest three-piece, truly great musicians and their lyrics are often sci-fi themed.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 08:41:59 am » |
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Kraftwerk.
Hell yeah! Full show, woooo!!!
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 01:45:43 pm » |
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When I think 'music and Sci-Fi'...I think 'Hawkwind'. A lot of their lyrics were written by Michael Moorcock.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2012, 09:26:13 pm » |
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This also fits the Sci-fi mood... at least the one that I have in mind
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 09:57:45 pm » |
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A fair amount of early-ish Tangering Dream (late '70s to mid '80s) has a very similar feel to that Ad Visser sound track. In fact I'd go so far as to say it was heavily influenced by TD. Ad Visser is well-known for being a deejay, and a "veejay" avant-la-lettre. I do think he has been influenced by both Tangerine Dream as Kraftwerk, and probably some other "synth-pop" or "electro-wave" bands of the 70s and early 80s. He must have heard many of them for his TV- and radio-shows. The difference between many regular soundtracks and Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Ad Visser and several others is that TD etc, actually used instruments that had a "future feel" at the time: synthesizers, drumcomputers and the likes. Any of their songs would qualify SciFi. I would add any kind of theremin-music here, too. And this song has a scifi feel for me too: 1000 Sterne by Praga Khan (from Belgium): Praga Khan - Tausend Sterne (video) (Embedding disabled, limit reached) Yet also in the corner of "pop-music" and "disco" there are some songs that might be considered scifi in the end: Living on video by the Spanish band Trans-X: Trans-X - Living On Video Official Video (Embedding disabled, limit reached) One way ticket to the moon: One way ticket - Eruption (Embedding disabled, limit reached) (Eruption, also done by Boney M) Clouds across the moon by Rah Band: Rah Band - Clouds Across the Moon (Embedding disabled, limit reached) Flash by Queen: Queen - Flash (Embedding disabled, limit reached) from the Flash Gordon OST Yours Truly, 2095 by the Electric Light Orchestra: ELO - Yours Truly, 2095 (Embedding disabled, limit reached) Doctorin' the Tardis by The Timelords (pseudonym of KLF): THE TIMELORDS / KLF - Doctorin' The Tardis (Embedding disabled, limit reached) (each and every fan of Dr Who should watch this. Actually, check out every song by KLF) Strahlender Zukunft by Rheingold: Rheingold - Strahlende Zukunft.wmv (Embedding disabled, limit reached) Now call be beastly names: I got the superb feeling for absolutely off-taste music and collect songs like these. And count yourselves lucky because I can't find that TopPop disco-videoclip with the mating insects. Yes, it is as bad as that. |
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2012, 10:12:18 pm » |
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Because of how many soundtracks it's influenced- Gustav Holst - Mars (Embedding disabled, limit reached) And then, there's this- Flash - Queen (Official Music Video) (Embedding disabled, limit reached) |
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2012, 10:14:01 pm » |
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For a very 80's retro feel I present a track from a new-ish genre apparently called Outrun Lazerhawk - Space Trash (Embedding disabled, limit reached) |
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2012, 10:24:37 pm » |
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And then, there's this- I had that first! I had that first! But seriously: thank you for re-quoting that one. it's an excellent example of mainstream 70s scifi "that anyone should know". However, it reminded me of nerd-band Man or Astro-man? Man or Astroman? Destination Venus (Embedding disabled, limit reached) and others. |
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2012, 10:52:56 pm » |
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Sorry about that, I missed the link in your post. Never mind, Queen can't be mentionend enough |
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 11:08:48 pm » |
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A fair amount of early-ish Tangering Dream (late '70s to mid '80s) has a very similar feel to that Ad Visser sound track. In fact I'd go so far as to say it was heavily influenced by TD. But surely, the idea of a sound track is primarily to evoke or enhance emotion? It seldom, in and of itself, suggests the genre/setting of the movie. A good example is the Empire theme from Star Wars; this suggests a powerful, overbearing military presence, but there is nothing inherently sci-fi about it—that is a purely cultural association because we already know its setting and what it represents. Likewise with the Starship Troopers piece. There are exceptions to this, of course. The sound tracks for both Forbidden Planetand The Day The Earth Stood Stillstill feel inherently 'sci-fi', largely because of their unconventional and futuristic instrumentation. Just my tuppence-worth. Hurray for you!!  I'm quite pleased that someone on this planet has heard of TD ... the inventors of ethereal music that conjurers images of clockwork and color. There's not too many sounds as clockwork as a melotron fed into a step sequencer! I'd like to add Zero-One, Sounds from the Ground, Sinewave, Redshift and Autechre as well. |
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 12:06:08 am » |
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I'm a big fan of TD, but I wanted to explore album and music more from the edges of culture. Having said that I do now need to include a classic track from the TD OSt to "The Keep" The Keep - Stealing Crosses (Embedding disabled, limit reached) |
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2012, 12:08:41 am » |
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If you do want orchestral as well. Two Steps From Hell and Clint Mansell are definitely people to thoroughly check out. This chap usefully lists everyone he's used in the end credits. Babylon 5 EPIC Battle Montage (Embedding disabled, limit reached) |
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 08:58:08 am » |
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Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here.
One of the best Scifi soundtracks was actually atonal. It was the soundtrack to Planet of the Apes by Jerry Goldsmith.
I would also add the soundtrack used for the re-building of everytown in the classic "Things to Come", although that draws heavily on russian revolutionary music (particularly Prokofiev's piano conciertos).
If you are looking at producing hard science fiction now, I would seriously consider an original atonal piece to complement it. Let me use an example -
If you are depicting an explorer entering an unlit cavern, lighting a flare and throwing it into the empty void - the sound of breathing through a regulator, the crack and crackle of the flare and underlying notes and echoes will convey that as well as or better than a piece of melody. AND IT IS MUSIC.
That said, I Vangellis did a great job of the Bladerunner soundtrack, Forbidden Planet is in all ways one of the best Scifi films ever made and I have had many a happy evening listening to Tangerine Dream.
Looks like you have a lot to choose from...
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