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Author Topic: A question on publishing perhaps  (Read 183 times)
Mr fixit
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« on: April 03, 2012, 07:24:47 pm »

Putting the storyline and ideas aside for the moment;

What can be sold or published?  More specifically, how or where could one write a story or novella so it can be previewed and comments suggested without making it "public" and this unavailable for sale or publication?

Or put another way:
If I write a story and post it here, asking for opinions and input, could I then sell it as an unpublished work?  If not, how would I go about doing that?

I have a good story in my head, just wondering how to get it out so to speak.
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Kryss LaBryn
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 07:46:01 pm »

I thiiink you could, so long as it was in a limited area where one needed an account to view it, and not freely available to the public. I think that a better way of doing it, though, might be to get a beta reader lined up and just do it privately, either through email, or maybe something like Google Documents. You can use that to give whoever you like access to it, either read-only or with full permission to make changes.

My understanding (and I'm not an editor or a publisher myself but I do have some interest in this myself) is that it counts as published if just anyone can see it on the Internet, but not if, say, you have a writing group that meets in a private forum online. It's more about public access than the technology involved.

I hope that is of some help! Smiley
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Lady Chrystal
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 08:01:53 pm »

BEWARE!

Brass Goggles is an open forum, so anything you post on here is public and could count as published.

If it's only an idea you want to discuss, it wouldn't count as publication for the story. But it would be easy for someone to steal your idea.

If you're on Facebook, we have a Steampunk writers' group:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/secretdisabledwriters/?__adt=4#!/groups/147190255349294/
- this is a closed group, so not public.

Hope that helps!
Chrystal
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Mr fixit
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 08:28:08 pm »

BEWARE!

Brass Goggles is an open forum, so anything you post on here is public and could count as published.

If it's only an idea you want to discuss, it wouldn't count as publication for the story. But it would be easy for someone to steal your idea.

If you're on Facebook, we have a Steampunk writers' group:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/secretdisabledwriters/?__adt=4#!/groups/147190255349294/
- this is a closed group, so not public.

What are the requirements of joining the group?


Hope that helps!
Chrystal
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Lady Chrystal
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 08:30:06 pm »

If you click on the link, it should prompt you to "ask to join".

The only requirement is a will to join with other SP writers.
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Arkwright
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 02:18:02 pm »

I agree that its best to discuss ideas in advance, although they will change during writing.

I forgot to check your nationality - if you are in the UK and attending Chatham, there is a writers panel and you will get some answers there.

As far as ideas and ideas being stolen - the reality is a little harsh. Most people who think they have an idea for a book have an idea for a short story or a chapter. So its best to have more than one idea and write it down. If youre worried about theft - write it down and post it to yourself recorded delivery and keep the sealed copy. Best of all get at least half a dozen ideas together before you even start planning.

I'm not trying to be negative here, but I know a lot of people who have started novels and quit after 20 - 30 thousand words. Most times it's because they didn't realise how insanely creative you have to be to make up 60 thousand words plus. John Cleese said "writing is a compulsive sport" - that is to say you write because you are so full of ideas, they have to leak out somewhere.

As for publishing - the UK approach is:

Write the synopsis of your first THREE books (single book deals are rare these days) and the first three chapters of the first novel.

Submit to an agent and (usually) get rejected. repeat until you finally get an agent.

Your agent then submits to publishers, who (usually) reject the idea. Occasionally they will discuss the idea further, and then it is rejected by the marketers. Eventually some one will fail to say no (but with an option for chaning their minds later) and you get a contract and a small amount of money from which your agent immediately takes their fees.

You are now a published auther!

TTFN

Arkwright
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