Victorian food brands still extant

[yereverluvinunclebert]

There was a local company, Brakspear that made its own Cola from its own recipe and bottled it in their small bottling plant in a Victorian building in the centre on Henley-on-Thames.. They carbonated the drink until it literally hurt to drink. So much carbon dioxide that the roof of your mouth was so full of bursting bubbles that it was on the border of being painful (to a very young boy).  It would expel any straw placed into the bottle. You could eject the straw by holding it down and then let go,  watching it propel upwards and outwards. Kola Bee it was and I mourn it's passing as it was fun drink in every sense. So cold and bubbly that you could not taste the syrup in any way.

When the time machine is a little cheaper to run (you've seen the pictures of the large hadron collider?) I'll take a trip and get you a bottle so that you can compare it with the vile permeating syrup and see if which you like best.

Look at this great picture, this could be any time from just before the turn of the century until the 1930s. This is where my Kola Bee was bottled. Now do you start to understand why I despise the purveyors of the vile syrup?


Brakspears still operates, since 1776 and so I can drink everything else they make, beer mostly! And since our Dutch friend insists on keeping his finger in his (Belgian) beer list I will have to start adding one or two of my own. Brakspears ordinary bitter, double -dropped, hoppy, very bitter, 3.4%, a drinking or quaffing ale, or a session beer, for drinking and talking. Very enjoyable pint. Served in pints of course, none of this 1/2 litre nonsense.

[J. Wilhelm]

Oh! Sweet Jeezus!  You're not going to incite me into going to the super in the middle of the night, just before midnight to buy a bottle of ale are you?

[J. Wilhelm]

Yes, yes you did.  I drove to my local super, bought my favorite brand of Bock.  Came back and already finished my pint, thank you very much...  You should be ashamed of the bad influence you instill in people....  

[yereverluvinunclebert]

You may now add a brewery or two to the US list.

[J. Wilhelm]

You may now add a brewery or two to the US list.

Apparently this one already was in the list:
D.G. Yuengling & Son, beer (1829, Pottsville, Pennsylvania)

I'll have to look for more GOOD beers as opposed to the donkey piss  I had listed (the one above not deserving such derision)  just due to true-blue Victorian origins...  Sadly our own Spoetzl brewery in Texas was founded in 1909, hence not Victorian (otherwise it would really be a good one to list)

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Ladies and gentlemen:

These are the updated lists at my disposal:

The American List:

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H.J. Heinz Company  (Henry John Heinz, Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, 1888;  US company already mentioned in the UK for baked beans and ketchup)

Hunt's (rival tomato ketchup maker, fmr. Hunt Bros. Fruit Packing Co, 1888, Sebastopol California).

Campbell’s Soup Co. fmr. Joseph Campbell & Co. (International food giant making condensed soup, f. 1869 Joseph A. Campbell, Camden New Jersey)

McCormick & Co. spices (International spice trade giant today, Willoughby M. McCormick, 1889, Baltimore, Maryland)

Del Monte Foods (canned vegetables/produce international giant today, 1886, Oakland/San Francisco, California)

Nabisco (Baked foods international giant today. "National Biscuit Co." Yes-please take note!! "biscuit" in the British sense of the word, 1898 East Hanover New Jersey)
From Wiki, a timeline relevant to Nabisco:

# 1792 – Pearson & Sons Bakery opens in Massachusetts. They make a biscuit called pilot bread consumed on long sea voyages.
# 1801 – Josiah Bent Bakery first coined the term 'crackers' for a (savory) crunchy biscuit they produce.
# 1889 – William Moore acquires Pearson & Sons Bakery, Josiah Bent Bakery, and six other bakeries to start the New York Biscuit Company.
# 1890 – Adolphus Green starts the American Biscuit & Manufacturing Company after acquiring forty different bakeries.
# 1898 – William Moore and Adolphus Green merge to form the National Biscuit Company. Adolphus Green is president.
# 1901 – The name Nabisco is first used as part of a name for a sugar wafer.

General Mills, and Gold Medal brand flour (Baking ingedients/ baked goods /canned goods super-giant, Minneapolis, Minnesota,1866 by Cadwallader C. Washburn who bought and expanded the 1856 Minneapolis Milling Company)

C.A. Pillsbury and Company (Flour and a plethora of baking/baked goods. 1872 by Charles Alfred Pillsbury / John Sargent Pillsbury, Minnesota)

King Arthur Flour (Henry Wood & Co. 1790)


Jell-O (instant gellatin, Peter Cooper, 1845 / Pearle B. Wait. 1897, New York)

Coca Cola (soft-drink international giant today, John Pemberton/Eagle Drug and Chemical Company, Columbus, Georgia 1886)

Dr. Pepper (1885 by Charles Alderton of Waco, Texas.  Presently owned by Dr.Pepper-Snapple in US. and distr. By Shweppes,Pepsi, or Coca Cola in Americas and Europe, including UK (?) -don't ask me...)

Hormel Foods Corporation (-maker of Spam, BTW- George A. Hormel & Company in Austin, Minnesota, 1891)

Log Cabin syrup (1887. Patrick J. Towle, Minnesota)

Aunt Jemima pancake mix (1889, Chris L. Rutt . Charles G Underwood, St. Joseph, Missouri)

Knox gelatine (Knox Gelatin Co., founded by Rose Knox, New York, 1890)
Libby's (Libby, McNeill & Libby, canned meats company, 1869, Chicago Illinois)

Lipton tea (Thomas J. Lipton Co., now making instant tea: "The scourge of tea purists" , founded by Sir Thomas Lipton, Glasgow, Scotland UK 1890 /headquarters at Hoboken New, Jersey USA, 1893 -this may be the hardest to swallow for our British friends for a variety of reasons....)

Fig Newtons (F. A. Kennedy Steam Bakery Co., 1891, Newton, Massachusetts)

Altoids mint candy digestive (introduced by Smith Kendon in 1780, sold by Wrigley and intrduced and manufacture in Chattahooga Tennesse by Wrigley))

Cream of Wheat (Porridge, Grand Forks, North Dakota, 1893)

Wm. Wrigley Jr. Co., maker of "Juicy Fruit" Chewing Gum (Chicago, Illinois, 1891)

Triscuit ("snack crackers" 1895/1903, Niagara Falls, New York).

Cracker Jack (candied popcorn/peanuts, Frederick William "Fritz" and Louis Rueckheim, Chicago, 1896)

Tootsie Roll (soft candy, 1896)
 
Kellogg Company (maker of Kellogg's Corn Flakes, invented by J.H. Kellogg, - simultaneously a brilliant medical-visionary but also a quack doctor, May 31, 1895, Sanitas Food Co. 1897 and marketed later by his brother Will Keith Kellogg, Battle Creek Michigan, 1906)

Post Cereals  (breakfast cereal fmr. Postum Cereal Co., 1895 St. Louis Missour, by C. W. Post, a patient of Dr. Kellogg, who allegedly stole the Corn Flakes recipe while at Kellogg's Sanitarium)

Tabasco Pepper Sauce (McIlhenny Company, Avery Island, Louisiana, f. by Edmund McIlhenny 1868)

Wesson Oil (1899, Wesson Oil & Snowdrift Company

Clabber Girl baking powder (Hulman & Co.,Indiana, 1899)

Mott's apple sauce (f. 1842 by Samuel R. Mott in Bouckville, New York, as apple cider and vinegar producer)

Zatarain's  ( a New Orleans style-condiment and food company, now part of McCormick. Originally a root beer company, founded by Emile A. Zatarain, Sr., 1889, New Orleans, Louisiana)
Examples of seasonings: Crab and Shrimp Boils, Creole Mustard, FishFry (Basically seasoned corn flour). Jambalaya, Dirty Rice, Red Beans and Rice, and Black Beans and Rice.  In the 20th C. and 21st. C. available as instant rice packages or ready to eat packages.

A1 Steak Sauce (developed by 1824 by Henderson William Brand, a chef to King George IV, marketed by Brand &Co. 1831, and then bought and brought to the US by  G.F. Heublein & Brothers. 1895, not in Canada until 1931)

Arm and Hammer Baking Soda (Not a food but an ingredient, Another industry giant. 1867 James A. Church; the Arm and Hammer logo represents Vulcan, the Roman god of fire and metalworking)

Barnum Animal Crackers ("Animal Biscuits" developed in Victorian times in the UK and introduced into America by Nabisco 1902- Not quite Victorian but at the "edge" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barnum%27s_animals_examples.JPG)

The two American giant coffee makers and "nemesis of one another":

Maxwell House Coffee (1892,Tarrytown, New York named in honor of the Maxwell House Hotel in Nashville)

Folger's Coffee (The Folger Coffee Company was founded in San Francisco, California, 1850 http://www.folgers.com/about-us/folgers-history.aspx)

Morton Salt (again not a food but an ingredient.  Supergiant. The discovery of gold in California in 1849 created a huge demand for salt as fortune-seekers made the long journey west. Originally created in 1848 as "Richmond & Company," Joy Morton -whose father served as secretary of agriculture - acquired a major interest in the company in 1889 and renamed it the Joy Morton & Company. Chicago)

Keebler's cookies(biscuits) and crackers (A giant domestic baked goods company. Godfrey Keebler Bakery founded in 1853, Philadelphia Pennsylvania. The Elves (mascots) are not Victorian though)

Hershey's Chocolate / The Hershey Food, Co. (International chocolatier giant. Founded by Milton Snavely Hershey first as a candy shop in Philadelphia, which failed within six years. After trying unsuccessfully to manufacture candy in New York, Hershey returned to Lancaster Pennsylvania, where he founded the Lancaster Caramel Company, 1894).

Philadelphia Cream Cheese (a type of Petit Suisse, and also comparable in taste, texture, and production methods to Boursin and Mascarpone. First made by William Lawrence in 1872.  Founded 1880, Philadelphia Pennsylvania)

Welch's grape juice and jelly / Welch Foods Inc. (1869, Vineland, New Jersey by Thomas Bramwell Welch who invented the method used to pausteurize grape juice to halt fermentation into wine)

B. Manischewitz Company, LLC (Kosher foods, by Rabbi Dov Behr Manischewitz, 1888 in Cincinnati, Ohio)

Armour fresh pork and canned goods/ Armour and Co. (originally a slaughterhouse and meat packing company, Philip Danforth Armour, Chicago, Illinois, 1867)

Smucker's pancake syrup/ J. M. Smucker Company (Maker of fruit-based syrups, marmalades, preserves and jellies, 1897,by Jerome Monroe Smucker, Orrville, Ohio)

NECCO / New England Confectionary Company (Maker of a type of "sugar wafer" candy, 1901, Revere Massachusetts), At the edge of the Victorian period, it was created by the merger of 3 Victorian companies (1847,1848,1856).  Their claim to fame is their contribution to soldiers food rations during WWI

Nestlé S.A.  (supergiant international confectioner and chocolatier among many other foods, Henri Nestlé, Vevey, Switzerland, 1866). This is the product of the 1905 merger of baby-food companies, the Swiss Farine Lactée Henri Nestlé and the American-owned/British-established Anglo-Swiss Condensed Milk Company.

Fleischmann's yeast (Charles Louis Fleischmann, his brother Maximilian, and James Gaff in Riverside, Ohio, in 1868)

French's / French's Mustard (Condiment Co.  Founded by Robert Timothy French, 1883 Fairport, New York/1884 Rochester New York as the R T French Co.)

Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce (1838 by John Wheeley Lea and William Henry Perrins dispensing chemists from Broad Street, Worcester, UK).

Heide maker of Jujubes / Jujyfruits (Henry Heide, New York, 1869)

Redbird Peppermint Puffs from Piedmont Candy Co., Lexington, NC, in production since 1890.

Boudin Sourdough Bread / Boudin Bakery (1849, by Isidore Boudin, San Francisco, California) This is good artisan bread sold in pravate stores, supermarkets and apparently they have cafes and restaurants too... Nothing beats 163 year old yeast culture!

Carl Buddig & Co. meat "cold cuts" and sausages now sold at supermarkets mostly (Carl Buddig Butcher Shop, 1886, Chicago, Illinois).

Patrick Cudahy Inc. / Patrick Cudahy smoked ham and bacon (formerly Plankinton and Armour Packing Co. Milwaukee, Tennessee, 1874, then renamed after Cudahy took control in 1888).

Saugy Franks (sausage)  / Saugy Inc. (Now a maker of processed meat products and "Franks" sausage. Originally Alphonse Saugy Provisions, 1869, Rhode Island) http://www.saugy.net/images/canalstwframesm.jpg

John Morrell Cured Ham and Bacon / John Morrell  (Now part of Smithfield Packing Company.  Founded in Bradford, England bt George Morrell 1827 as a fruit vendor and ham bacon vendor in 1830.  His son John Morrell took the cured meat process to Ireland and the United states in 1864, where the business thrived)

Blount Clams /Blount Seafood Corp. (Provides fresh and frozen seafood ans soups based on seafood; Eddie B. Blount, 1880, Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island)

Columbia River Packers Association (1899) now called Bumble Bee (1910); Canned Tuna and Salmon.  Astoria, Oregon

Stock Yards Packing Co. brand of fresh beef cuts (Pollack family, 1893, Chicago Illinois)

Townsend Poultry / Townsend's Inc. (Primarily chicken I presume.  Founded by John G. Townsend, Jr. later Governor of Delaware and US State Senator, Georgetown Delaware 1891)

Vaucresson Sausage (I imagine also includes New-Orleans style varieties; Local retailer, originally Robert Levinsky Vaucresson Butcher, New Orleans Louisiana, 1899)

Borden Milk (1857) / Eagle Brand  Condensed Milk (1856) / Borden Brand Condensed milk (1875) and later Bottled milk (1885), {today a domestic 4-company owned brand providing all manners of dairy products including cheese and even glue (!)  Elmer's Glue anyone?, founded by  Gail Borden, Jr., in 1857 in Connecticut}.  Their claim to fame is their role providing dairy products to the military during the American Civil War.

Hood Milk and Cream / HP Hood/Crowley Foods (Today, Producers of Milk products like Cream, Cottage Cheese and Ice Cream; 1846 in Charlestown, Massachusetts by Harvey Perley Hood)

Meadow Gold Dairies-  Cream, Butter, (Beatrice Nebraska, 1894 by George E. Haskell and William W. Bosworth, formerly know as Haskell and Bosworth, Beatrice Creamery Co. and merged with Continental Creamery Co. who carried the brand of Meadow Gold)

Wolf canned chili (1895, Lyman T. Davis of Corsicana, Texas)
some nice photos here; click on "scrapbook" (check out the "can car"): http://www.wolfbrandchili.com/the-making-of-a-legend.jsp

D.G. Yuengling & Son, beer (1829, Pottsville, Pennsylvania)

Budweiser Beer / Anheuser-Busch (Eberhard Anheuser, 1860, Adolphus Busch 1876, St. Louis, Missouri)

Barq's / Barq's Famous Olde Tyme Root Beer (Now Part of Coca Cola,  Barq's Brothers Bottling Company 1890, New Orleans Louisiana, and brand Barq's Root Beer in 1898, Biloxi, Mississippi)

Ye Olde Black Pepper Co. Candy (Makers of "Salem Gibralter" and "Black Jack" candy, Founded by Mrs.Spencer Salem, Massachussetts, 1806, then sold to John William Pepper 1830)

Coors Lager / Coors Brewing Co. (Now subsidiary of Molson Coors (Canada); Founded in Golden Colorado (USA) in 1873 by Adolph Coors and Jacob Schueler from Germany).

Henry's Cream Soda (Vanilla, Black Cherry, Orange)/ Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve Beer/ Blitz-Weinhard Beer/ Henry Weinhard Brewery, Portland, Oregon, 1856

Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray, celery flavoured (Kosher) soda... yes I know! Dates to 1869 sold in delicatessens around New York, it was popular in the Jewish community, and is attributed to a certain Dr. Brown.... (Dr. Brown? Flux Capacitor's Dr. Brown?) now owned by J&R Bottling Co.

Boylan's Birch Beer / Boylan Bottling Co. :  A carbonated drink using a syrup derived from birch trees! Formulated in 1891 in Paterson, New Jersey, by pharmacist William Boylan.

Hershey's Ice Cream /Hershey Creamery Co. -- No relation to Hershey's Chocolate (Hershey brothers, Harrisburg Pennsylvania, 1894)

Imperial Sugar / Imperial Sugar Company (Samuel May Williams, Sugar Land, Texas 1843)

JR Watkins general apothecary, liniment, baking products and spices  (Originally an apothecary selling liniment door-to-door, before the turn of the 19thC. started trading in all sorts of products including spices, Founded by JR Watkins in Plainview Minnesota 1868.  Today spices produced by Watkins Inc. are found at supermarkets, and the health care products are sold by Internet as well as door-to-door and by mail order).

Ferrara Bakery and Cafe (New York) maker of Ferrara Nougat/Torrone (Now a provider of many Italian pastries and candies, it is part of the Cento Fine Foods brand, the business was founded as a bakery and cafe in New York City by Antonio Ferrara in 1892)

Jack Daniel's Whisky (Sold by Jack Daniel since 1866, physical building for distillery founded 1875, Lynchburg, Tennessee, USA)

Moxie Soft Drink (Originally called Moxie Nerve Food , Patented in 1876 by Dr. Augustin Thompson, Union, Maine, USA now manufactured by Moxie Beverage Company as division of Cornucopia Beverages)
 

The Mexican List, short as it is (I still need to correlate possible international influences in Victorian times, such as Nestle, and Knorr, but looks like those are also post 19th. C. as Coca Cola is):

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El Globo "The Balloon" Pastries and Bakery (Maker of baked goods, cakes, and French-style pastries; Founded in 1884, Mexico City by the Tenconi family - immigrants from Italy).  

Sidral Mundet / Embotelladora (Bottler) Mundet (Apple cider-based soda; the bottling company was established by Arturo Mundet in 1902 after production of "Sidral" started in 1900, Mexico City, Mexico)

Topo Chico Sparkling Mineral Water (Originally bottled by "Fábrica de Aguas Minerales de Topo Chico" it was established in 1895, City of Monterrey, State of Nuevo Leon, Mexico)

[bicyclebuilder]

The European list (UK excluded)

nestles condensed milk (Switzerland 1866)
De Ruijter (Netherlands 1860)
Duvel (Belgium 1871)
Perrier water (France 1898)
Knorr (Germany 1838)
Maggi (Switzerland 1872: A Nestlé brand)
Bertolli (Italy 1865)
Bières de Chimay (Belgium 1863) Trappist Beer
Westmalle (Belgium 1836) Trappist Beer
St Sixtus (Belgium 1838) Trappist Beer
Koningshoeven/La Trappe (Netherlands 1884) Trappist Beer
Spa Water (Belgium sometime in 1600s)
Perrier Water (France 1898)

Added to the list: Devos Lemmens (Belgium 1886)
After a couple of fusions and take-overs, they stil use the name "Devos Lemmens".
Now part of the Campbell Soup company.

[yereverluvinunclebert]

Shepherd Neame Brewery of 1698 (officially, but actually pre-dates that by at least another 600 years) makes some good beers, Spitfire and Bishop's Finger being their best known brews. Their Kentish beers made from locally produced high quality malt barley and hops... Very drinkable, not heavy and overly strong like their counterparts across the channel in Belgium, simply tasty and thirst-quenching, hoppy and bright.

[Angus A Fitziron]

Shepherd Neame Brewery of 1698 (officially, but actually pre-dates that by at least another 600 years) makes some good beers, Spitfire and Bishop's Finger being their best known brews. Their Kentish beers made from locally produced high quality malt barley and hops... Very drinkable, not heavy and overly strong like their counterparts across the channel in Belgium, simply tasty and thirst-quenching, hoppy and bright.

Why does your post make me suddenly thirsty - and it's only 11 0'clock in the morning?

[yereverluvinunclebert]

It is the words "simply tasty and thirst-quenching, hoppy and bright" - chosen specifically to do that...

There is a nice pub just around the corner in Findon, "The Gun". You are welcome to join me and slake your thirst.

[J. Wilhelm]

It is the words "simply tasty and thirst-quenching, hoppy and bright" - chosen specifically to do that...

There is a nice pub just around the corner in Findon, "The Gun". You are welcome to join me and slake your thirst.

One day gentlemen, I expect to pay you a visit (or you're welcome to this your home)  so we can drink a few pints and trade war stories...

[yereverluvinunclebert]

When you are ready, we are by the sea and stone's throw away from any underwater submarine berth.

To add to the UK list.

Pittenweem oatcakes - Adamson's Bakery is supposedly the oldest in the UK. Granny Agnes's 1887 recipe for thick, crumbly oatcakes is still used today. These well-known hand-made oatcakes have a distinctive triangular shape and are rustic in appearance.

[yereverluvinunclebert]

McKean's Butchers of Scotland - Haggis makers since 1850. Ah! at last! I was beginning to worry that I could eat no haggis.



You can buy the same haggis in the US. Come on now, you want to!

[bicyclebuilder]

Started as a starch factory, Honig has grown into a large Dutch company that makes dryed foods. Started in 1895, now part of the Heinz group but stil using the "Honig" brand name.

Also, Maggi. The original company came into existence in 1872 in Switzerland. Now part of Nestlé but also using the "maggi" brand name.

With last year 2.74 billion litres of it made worldwide, I couldn't leave out Heineken. Introduced in 1873.

[yereverluvinunclebert]

Bike chap - do give us an idea of what those organisations actually make, an actual brand or two that might have been on the shelves.

Heineken - yeuuch. Not the best of beers - in comparison to your Belgian cousins.

Now I find myself questioning whether you can have the whole of Europe to yourself for one list... I know I have pulled a couple of things from the old Empire but in actual fact my list is almost all British-based.

I don't think the Dutch ever ruled all Europe :-) - If you have the whole of Europe where will it end?  I think you need to confine yourself to Belgium/Holland with a few prominent German/French brands for luck... after all, the two Netherlands have been owned by various countries over the centuries, even the Spanish I believe so technically some 'foreign' brands would be considered native there.

[J. Wilhelm]

So, Uncle Bert...diplomacy is not your forte, eh?  

Although I'll have to agree that Heineken is ... meh!  But so is Coors and Budweiser... listed just for historical value, but clearly the latter 3 of equine urinal quality...  Spoetzl Brewery's "Shiner Bock"  (Belgian style actually!), on the other hand,  which I disqualified by way of non-Victorianism  (1910), is a rather robust beer, albeit still commercial (read: not as good as microbrewery  beer).  Samuel Adams, a good beer, also disqualified  on Non-Victorian grounds, is owned by Yuengling Brewery (listed above) which is legitimately Victorian...

I guess I'll just have to introduce the more modern varieties and blame it on temporal anomalies related to the Day of the Dead celebrations among the Aztec (it's getting close to that date, you know?).

[bicyclebuilder]

@yereverluvinunclebert, I'm sorry you don't have the luxury of having the fine Dutch/Belgium quisine.  
Honig made corn starch in the 1890's. More of an ingredient as an actual food. I'm looking for a picture, but can't seem to find one.
As for Maggi: http://www.nestle-family.com/maggi/english/about.aspx
quote: 'Over a century ago, back in 1884, a genius called Julius Maggi invented a powdered pea and bean soup, to provide nutritious, easy to prepare food for busy women who worked in factories and didn’t have time to prepare healthy meals.'
I'm not a fan of Heineken myself but 2.74 billion litres sold worldwide last year tells me the Dutch stil rule the world.  

The Dutch have always been known for their quest for a bargain. (for better or worse) Buying and selling is in our nature. Therefore I think we don't have many genuine Dutch food brands. Most are sold at a fair price at that time. We are stil facepalming about giving away New Amsterdam.  
As for my list: As long as no one is claiming other European countries, I will try to keep all European countries. Unless you've got a good bargain.

[yereverluvinunclebert]

@Bike chap, The Dutch were known for being good traders with their own seriously good fleet for quite a while, it sailed up the Thames at least once, doing some serious damage. With that in mind and as you may not have that many actual Dutch brands you can be in charge of the European list until it starts fragmenting and falling out with itself - watch those Big German brands...sometimes they want to start filling up the shelves all by themselves. You may have your work cut-out on that list.

@J.Wilhem, as you can see, I can appear a little politically backward but please excuse my poor manners and you may safely assume I may always be just a little tongue-in-cheek (I will never admit that in public though)

[yereverluvinunclebert]

I would genuinely prefer to drink my own nightly micturations than Heineken, Coors and Budweiser. I pity you that you have it on your list. Which brings me to the question, do we have to eat and drink everything on the list? If we do then poor you.

That Samuel Adams you mentioned is not bad and is recently distributed in the UK by Shepherd Neame I think. Doesn't make either list though as it is new. You shouldn't even mention it as it only serves to tease.

Spoetzl Brewery's "Shiner Bock" 1910 - I reckon that Steampunk fully encompasses the Victorian/Edwardian ethos. It can be added to the list.

Over here, bottled beer is a poor cousin to cask ale and is considered in quality terms the inferior version. A real beer ferments and improves in the cask, and only achieves full potential when is has been properly tapped and tipped and left to clear for a day or so before serving. Hand-pulled pints with no artificial CO2 are the only way to serve a good pint. No head, no chilling just the pure beer with a small amount of natural cooling from a deep cellar. A pint.

At my banquet I can have barrels and barrels of beautiful beer.

Have you ever had a full pin of your favourite beer, clear and bright, just waiting to be poured? Calling to you from the barrel? "Drink me..."

[J. Wilhelm]

I would genuinely prefer to drink my own nightly micturations than Heineken, Coors and Budweiser. I pity you that you have it on your list. Which brings me to the question, do we have to eat and drink everything on the list? If we do then poor you.

That Samuel Adams you mentioned is not bad and is recently distributed in the UK by Shepherd Neame I think. Doesn't make either list though as it is new. You shouldn't even mention it as it only serves to tease.

Spoetzl Brewery's "Shiner Bock" 1910 - I reckon that Steampunk fully encompasses the Victorian/Edwardian ethos. It can be added to the list.

Over here, bottled beer is a poor cousin to cask ale and is considered in quality terms the inferior version. A real beer ferments and improves in the cask, and only achieves full potential when is has been properly tapped and tipped and left to clear for a day or so before serving. Hand-pulled pints with no artificial CO2 are the only way to serve a good pint. No head, no chilling just the pure beer with a small amount of natural cooling from a deep cellar. A pint.

At my banquet I can have barrels and barrels of beautiful beer.

Have you ever had a full pin of your favourite beer, clear and bright, just waiting to be poured? Calling to you from the barrel? "Drink me..."

I pity the foool

-Mr. T

In that case and until I find a genuine Victorian brand besides Yuengling, the Shiner Beer brand will become the centre piece on account of palatal decency.

Shiner Bock, Shiner Hefeweizen, and Shiner Black Lager (Spoetzl Brewery was founded originally as Shiner Brewing Association, with Herman Weiss as brewmaster, in the town of Shiner, Texas, USA, 1909.  In 1915 a German immigrant, Kosmos Spoetzl, with help from Oswald Petzold  leased the brewery with option to purchase).

[yereverluvinunclebert]

We have Caley's Chocolate. Since 1885. Chocolate of all sorts! Sold in bars in the 1800s and in other forms, factory bombed in 1942, production continues to this day - more research will be forthcoming

[Lucius Baxter]

Absolutely, but is the bit about it originally being a cleaning fluid an opinion, a fact or an urban myth?

Sprite works great on carpet...

[yereverluvinunclebert]

Sprite is good at cleaning what in particular?

Can we add Sprite to the list on this basis ? I think not.

[J. Wilhelm]

I though Sprite was only good for generating cavities... not enough Vitamin C to avoid scurvy though..    (Although I enjoy the lemon-lime taste, though)

[yereverluvinunclebert]

Which brings us neatly to Fentiman's lemonade, 1905, I can have it I think...

http://www.slashfood.com/2009/10/22/should-kids-drink-fentimans-victorian-lemonade/

[yereverluvinunclebert]

I have just noticed the thread subject seems to have changed from

"Victorian food brands still extant"

to "Victorian food brands still existant"

That is slightly wrong in two respects - firstly that word should be 'existent' with an 'e' and secondly its meaning is slightly different, I originally used extant meaning - still in existence and surviving!

'Existent' means having existence which could imply simply hanging on in a passive way. I want to eat Steampunk! I want these brands to thrive. Anyway I've changed the subject back again, excuse my rant.