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Author Topic: Welsh Highland Railway. (Full Steam Ahead pt.1)  (Read 606 times)
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« on: November 23, 2011, 02:38:06 am »

A series charting the re-opening of the Welsh Highland Railway Line. found on BBC Iplayer)




Not SP really, but of interest to some people.  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2011, 12:12:40 am »

That's the ex Tasmanian Garratt (the first ever Garratt) they have at the beginning of that program....if the WHR had used Garratt's originally they'd have done a lot better.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2011, 04:21:11 am »

Sadly many of the UK videos say "not avalible in your area" I guess
the pond is a little too wide to send them across to the U.S.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2011, 10:55:15 am »

One down, two to go!  The Lynton and Barnstaple is also slowly being rebuilt, and the entire trackbed of the Leek and Manifold still survives if some intrepid group were to start restoring that route... 
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2011, 06:19:10 pm »

Thanks for sharing this... I'll be watching it later with a cup of tea.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2011, 12:11:54 pm »

Sadly many of the UK videos say "not avalible in your area" I guess
the pond is a little too wide to send them across to the U.S.

BBC doesn't seem to want to share anything on the internet.  Angry
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2011, 02:06:00 pm »

The line was built to a gauge of 2 ft 6 in (762 mm).....

Wrong scale for me. Otherwise I would have 3 steamers (bavarian local 0-4-0, british industrial 0-4-0 and Fowler 4F 0-6-0)ready and one (the Super Claud, 4-4-0) awaiting the finishing touches.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2011, 07:33:27 am »

Welsh Highland Railway: Not the same vid, but this one works in the US:
http://youtu.be/zHoOfbusG4o. There are others associated with it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2011, 12:24:19 am »

The line was built to a gauge of 2 ft 6 in (762 mm).....

Wrong scale for me. Otherwise I would have 3 steamers (bavarian local 0-4-0, british industrial 0-4-0 and Fowler 4F 0-6-0)ready and one (the Super Claud, 4-4-0) awaiting the finishing touches.

Not sure which line you're referring to...... The Leek and Manifold (which, oddly, never went anywhere near Leek) was 2ft 6in, but both the Lynton and Barnstaple and the Welsh Highland were (are) 2ft, or more correctly 60cm, which works out to about 1ft 11 5/8in.

I rode the WHR up to the (as it was then) terminus at Rhyd Ddu a few years ago; we were buzzed by a pair of RAF fighter jets from the base at Valley, over on Anglesey. Those ex-South African Railways "Garratts" are truly magnificent beasts for such a narrow gauge, and make an odd contrast to the Festiniog's little "Blanche"and "Linda" at Porthmadog, where the two lines meet.

Definitely worth a visit, for any steam enthusiast.

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2011, 05:56:48 pm »

Those ex-South African Railways "Garratts" are truly magnificent beasts for such a narrow gauge, and make an odd contrast to the Festiniog's little "Blanche"and "Linda" at Porthmadog, where the two lines meet.

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I had at first thought that the Garratt seen in these vids was the ex Tassie one, the first ever Garratt, which I understand the WHR does own....however, it has the cylinders mounted inboard, as opposed to 'at the ends', and no other Garratts were made with inboard cylinders....so, more Garratts? Ex SAR? I need to go see!
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2011, 10:45:29 pm »

The Garrats in both videos are the ex-SAR machines, of 2-6-2+2-6-2 wheel arrangement; the Tasmanian Garratt is smaller, an 0-4-0+0-4-0 with, as you say, the cylinders at the inboard ends of the power bogies.

There's a video of the Tasmanian Garratt at

   
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6ouAqeols


In comparison with the massive SAR locos, the Tassie job is positively dainty.

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 10:13:08 am »

Part II is now available to watch:

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 10:55:24 am »


In comparison with the massive SAR locos, the Tassie job is positively dainty.

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The Tasmanian loco actually looks like it belongs on the WHR. The SAR ones would have been built to 3'6" gauge, would they not? If they have been regauged isn't that a bit unstable?
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 11:25:09 am »

Aah, but they're not from SAR, they're NG G16 Garretts from the erstwhile 2' gauge Alfred County Railway.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 11:46:49 pm »

Thought there was something missing from the label. After all I've never heard of a QGR Beyer-Garratt being used on an NQ sugar network.
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 06:01:23 am »

The Tasmanian loco actually looks like it belongs on the WHR. The SAR ones would have been built to 3'6" gauge, would they not? If they have been regauged isn't that a bit unstable?


Nope, they were actually built for the SAR 2ft gauge lines such as Port Elizabeth - Avontuur. The 3ft 6in gauge Garratts are even bigger.

The Alfred County Railway acquired its Garratts from the SAR, I understand.

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