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Author Topic: Steampunk without the brown  (Read 6071 times)
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« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2011, 07:16:44 am »

Well can't say I've got a vast steampunk wardrobe but I've always liked browns, tans, and khakis theses colors go very well with my slightly auburn hair (and I mean very slightly) hazel eyes and fish belly white skin (lots of welsh blood). That being said I'm a huge fan of dark rust colored fabrics (especially for vests) I tend towards cream colored button up shirts with no collar (and the little strap that holds up the sleeves when you roll them up) I guess I'm a bit of a hobbit that way but I suppose some of its because I identify more with the middle class laborer types and not so much with the upper/middle class sort ( I prefer to think of myself more as a kind of mad mechanic than anything else!)

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« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2011, 09:19:08 am »

Haven't worn brown in a long time because if it looks too orange (my Death Warmed Over color), it becomes all too clear that I am in fact not really "flesh" toned (whose flesh?) but rather pale green.  I can look much more human in black, white, beige/khaki, or olive-drab, perhaps with brown leather accents.  (Though no brown leather accents with black fabric.  Old habits die hard!  Hence I have more belts & shoes in black than in brown.)  In a similar vein, I still have more items where the metal findings are steel than I do items with brass, though I have some of the latter...and the same ingrained style-habit prevents me from mixing the two.

Or wait...this is about "the" brown.  Which brown is "the" brown? Wink  (Is it somewhere on this page?  Will a face jump out of it or something?  Do I need to turn the volume way up or look closely to see what's wrong with the picture?  Waiting...  Cheesy )

Certainly I agree how earth tones don't automatically make a thing steampunk - in the area of fashion, I grew up in the '70s Midwest U.S. where earth tones were just what everyone wore, and in the area of decor I've been inside Starbucks, all in earth tones but possibly the least steamy place on the planet, 'nuff said.
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« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2011, 12:30:16 pm »

4 pages read, my first post.
I think the statement: Steampunk = brown, comes from old sepia pictures. Back in the victorian era the pictures taken were sepia colored or black and white. Vintage drawings tend to fade brownish. When you have that as a guideline to Steampunk, you get a lot of brown colors and faded shades of other colors.
For me the Steampunk pallete is about natural colors, natural materials, brass, copper, wood. Looking at the actual Victorian pallete it's all over the place. And it should. Try to imagine a color pallete from the 1900-2000. Black, white, fluorecent, pastel. The same time span as the Victorian era and the same range of colors, couture and attire.
It's all about what the individual wants. If I would wear denim jeans with a black bowler hat and brown army boots and call it Steampunk, it is Steampunk to me.
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« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2011, 06:43:05 pm »

4 pages read, my first post.
I think the statement: Steampunk = brown, comes from old sepia pictures. Back in the victorian era the pictures taken were sepia colored or black and white. Vintage drawings tend to fade brownish. When you have that as a guideline to Steampunk, you get a lot of brown colors and faded shades of other colors.
For me the Steampunk pallete is about natural colors, natural materials, brass, copper, wood. Looking at the actual Victorian pallete it's all over the place. And it should. Try to imagine a color pallete from the 1900-2000. Black, white, fluorecent, pastel. The same time span as the Victorian era and the same range of colors, couture and attire.
It's all about what the individual wants. If I would wear denim jeans with a black bowler hat and brown army boots and call it Steampunk, it is Steampunk to me.

There are, every once in a great while, posts on here that make me wish there was a "Like" button.

This is one of them.

I have quoted it for truth.

I would also like to restate the MAIN reason I wear browns and earth tones, they're what looks BEST on me.  I've a natural olive complexion (so much so I am quite frequently mistaken for an arab-couple that with my using arabic phrases when I'm oot and aboot, it makes for a VERY intersting time indeed!), so the earth tones and burgandy complements that quite nice!
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« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2011, 05:53:01 am »

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It's all about what the individual wants. If I would wear denim jeans with a black bowler hat and brown army boots and call it Steampunk, it is Steampunk to me.

That actually sounds kind of neat.  I tried something similar (boots are black and not Army) with a green-brown fedora in lieu of the bowler, but that came out a little too straight Western.  Perhaps with goggles and suspenders.  Unfortunately then the goggles would defeat the purpose, as the goal (for me in this case) was to have something comfortable and a bit steampunk-inspired but that would still blend in, for ambiguous occasions.  A bowler though...
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« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2011, 08:19:22 am »

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It's all about what the individual wants. If I would wear denim jeans with a black bowler hat and brown army boots and call it Steampunk, it is Steampunk to me.

That actually sounds kind of neat.  I tried something similar (boots are black and not Army) with a green-brown fedora in lieu of the bowler, but that came out a little too straight Western.  Perhaps with goggles and suspenders.  Unfortunately then the goggles would defeat the purpose, as the goal (for me in this case) was to have something comfortable and a bit steampunk-inspired but that would still blend in, for ambiguous occasions.  A bowler though...

Confession time....I'm wearing jeans again.   Undecided  (found 2 pairs that actually fit)  My fiance, for the sake of her parents and friends, made me actually "try" to be "normal."  (and before the lecture starts, considering I am planning to marry into them, I can deal with some comprimise  Grin)  So thus, I have started working my idea of daily steampunk around jeans.  At present my daily attire for going outside consists of: jeans, boots, brown leather jacket, waist coat with pocket watch, shirt, tie (sometimes I sneak in the cravat), and flat cap.  (can't wait to get a good shot of the jacket, it's a recent second-hand store find...BRASS BUCKLES AND BUTTONS!!!!!)  However, I have also realized just how bland the modern-looking color pallet truly is.  The biggest difference as far as color and pattern goes between modern clothes and Victorian clothes appears in pants.  It's amazing how boring modern pants truly are despite all the structural variations.  Sure some have rips in them or patches or embroidery, but for the most part modern pants are solid colored and designed to be low profile. 
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« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2011, 11:10:12 am »

Well all I'd say on jeans, and I'm assuming they are modern jeans, is if people can wear cargo pants, which from what I gather date back to the 1930's as part of Steampunk outfits (and it would appear that they can) jeans can hardly be considered too contemporary.

I wear them a lot, but I'm actually reconstructing some at the moment. I'm going to take the top part with the belt loops off, and then sew a taller fish tail back attachment with buttons for braces and a back waist adjuster, made from the denim of an old knackered pair on to them. They are kind of low rise at the moment, and the pant seat to waist part is not as high as on my Frontier Classics trousers. But there were variations as regards that anyway and they'll still sit better under a waistcoat.
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« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2011, 02:22:45 pm »

As one whose 'browns' are mainly the khaki  hues of the Boer kopjes and the subcontinent - "cargo pants" are an early-1940s creation, the original cargo being a paratrooper's rations in the leg pockets of his jump uniform.

Denim jeans, however, date from Mr L. Strauss' tailoring shop on the 1849 San Franciscan goldfields...
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« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2011, 07:57:39 pm »


Confession time....I'm wearing jeans again.   Undecided  (found 2 pairs that actually fit)  My fiance, for the sake of her parents and friends, made me actually "try" to be "normal."  (and before the lecture starts, considering I am planning to marry into them, I can deal with some comprimise  Grin)  So thus, I have started working my idea of daily steampunk around jeans.  At present my daily attire for going outside consists of: jeans, boots, brown leather jacket, waist coat with pocket watch, shirt, tie (sometimes I sneak in the cravat), and flat cap.

this never ceases to amaze me...admittedly, i did not wear denim between ages 18 and 22, but it seems to be a common theorem that wearing jeans makes one less steampunk than dressing in full period garb. it is completely impractical for me to live my day-to-day life in corsets, walking skirts, and bustles. i do not have any practical use for goggles *not to mention the fact that i wear glasses*. as much as i love to blay a role, in my waking life i am not an airship pilot, a vagabond, or a noble. i am a girl living in the suburbs with a young child and working for the "man."

to that end, my day-to-day wardrobe often includes jeans. when at all possible, i prefer straight leg or skinny styles that can be worn with boots. no rips, no patches, no embroidery. the fanciest i get is the occasional cargo pocket. with that, it's often military-influenced pieces, dress shirts, sweaters, etc. i don't wear tee-shirts outside of the house.

my color scheme is primarily black, grey, and white primarily. my denim is always either gray or deep indigo washes. my jewelry is silver. it isn't unusual to see accents of chartreuse, fuschia, plum, bubblegum, pewter, bronze, copper, red, et. al. i don't think about what is and isn't steampunk. i think about what i'll be doing during the course of a day/evening/event. everything has to be functional for me to wear it.
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« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2011, 08:00:44 pm »

As one whose 'browns' are mainly the khaki  hues of the Boer kopjes and the subcontinent - "cargo pants" are an early-1940s creation, the original cargo being a paratrooper's rations in the leg pockets of his jump uniform.

Denim jeans, however, date from Mr L. Strauss' tailoring shop on the 1849 San Franciscan goldfields...

This is exactly why I have no issues wearing jeans.
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« Reply #85 on: December 16, 2011, 09:40:03 am »

As one whose 'browns' are mainly the khaki  hues of the Boer kopjes and the subcontinent - "cargo pants" are an early-1940s creation, the original cargo being a paratrooper's rations in the leg pockets of his jump uniform.

Denim jeans, however, date from Mr L. Strauss' tailoring shop on the 1849 San Franciscan goldfields...

This is exactly why I have no issues wearing jeans.

I agree. Unless they are tie-dye bell bottoms or hotpants (depending on who's wearing them)  Grin
Jokes aside, we are not reinactors. We are Steampunk. If your time traveling character comes back from the future wearing a fluoresent training suit, I'd buy that.
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« Reply #86 on: December 16, 2011, 01:32:36 pm »

As one whose 'browns' are mainly the khaki  hues of the Boer kopjes and the subcontinent - "cargo pants" are an early-1940s creation, the original cargo being a paratrooper's rations in the leg pockets of his jump uniform.

Denim jeans, however, date from Mr L. Strauss' tailoring shop on the 1849 San Franciscan goldfields...


This is exactly why I have no issues wearing jeans.


I agree. Unless they are tie-dye bell bottoms or hotpants (depending on who's wearing them)  Grin
Jokes aside, we are not reinactors. We are Steampunk. If your time traveling character comes back from the future wearing a fluoresent training suit, I'd buy that.


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« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2011, 07:24:17 pm »

Well, blow me to Bermuda.

Seriously kids, we've had time travel since 1895. I expect to see a lot of temporal seep amongst our group. (I understand there's a treatment for that now.)
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« Reply #88 on: December 16, 2011, 07:24:52 pm »

Well, blow me to Bermuda.

Precisely! Grin
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« Reply #89 on: December 16, 2011, 08:57:13 pm »


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« Reply #90 on: December 17, 2011, 12:45:54 am »

Well, blow me to Bermuda.

Seriously kids, we've had time travel since 1895. I expect to see a lot of temporal seep amongst our group. (I understand there's a treatment for that now.)
Temporal Seep? I think they make an ointment or saLve for that.....

I'm debating getting myself some brown boots, as I can get them cheap/free, but I don't wear brown at all so I'm not seeing the point.
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« Reply #91 on: December 17, 2011, 06:25:43 pm »

Temporal Seep? I think they make an ointment or saLve for that.....

I'm debating getting myself some brown boots, as I can get them cheap/free, but I don't wear brown at all so I'm not seeing the point.

you can do amazing things with a pair of brown boots and a tin of black polish, especially if the boots are older and worn. it ages them and gives lovely colour variants. just a thought. then again, all of my shoes are black or grey - although i do have a pair of trainers with hot pink flames and two pairs of red heels (i am, after all, a girl who dances on tables and stages occasionally)
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« Reply #92 on: December 20, 2011, 02:30:27 am »

Yeah I must confess I black dubbin-ed a lot of my brown leather stuff just to make it a lil bit browner, Wink It looks great, and always goes beautifully with indigo and dark navy blues.
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« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2011, 11:42:09 pm »

I've also used that rick a time or two...various shoe-polishes on various types of leather can accomplish a great range of effects...scuff-cover vs. wax polish, thicker goos vs. watery ones, brown-based blacks vs. blue-based blacks, buffing vs. not buffing, distressing the leather first vs. 'new' looking leather, etc...
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« Reply #94 on: December 30, 2011, 06:19:18 am »

Old photos from not long ago but these photos are out dated. More stuff has been added me an me occupational therapist made coat from a civil war pattern an using a vintage green sears corduroy shirt an velvet I found at yard sale an liner was from mardens   IMG]http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr239/onewayjesusfreak86/myparty3.jpg[/IMG]   
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« Reply #95 on: December 30, 2011, 06:36:40 am »

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« Reply #96 on: December 30, 2011, 09:30:19 am »

"What makes you think you're steampunk?"  That was my first experience with the All-Volunteer Steampunk Fashion Police.  I have since learned it's best to set brainwaves to "ignore" when self-appointed members come knocking.  My outfits are colorful - I'm a performer and my persona meshes with it.  I'm from a place/time where the Near East, Mid East, and North Africa are one.  Lime green and bright pink/red/white striped Macedonian vest? Yes, please!  Gold satin skirt and pink pantaloons (harem pants)?  You know it.  Red mini-fez with copper spring tassel?  Absolutely.  I actually do like shades of brown & muted tones, but on other people, not on myself.  Though I have to say, in a sea of sepia, color stands out & is most memorable to me, anyway.

I wish I remember who said it, but I read not long ago, 'Steampunk is fun, it's playing.  Don't let anyone else try to tell you how you're "supposed" to play.'  Good advice.
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« Reply #97 on: December 30, 2011, 01:43:49 pm »


Mr. RATFINKBOYMICAH, well done, sir! That is a zany combo and has the spunk of the 19th Century American city street squirted all over it. I expect and hope that Mr. Vagabond Gentleman, who understands and speaks the fashion of New York, will weigh in with an opinion. BTW, you might post these photogravures in the Steampunk Dressup thread for the larger audience.

Mme. Ruta Gamal, I think the gates of multicultural steampunk have been burst asunder for some time now, and any of the 'All-Volunteer Steampunk Fashion Police' who didn't get the memo are sorely behind the times. More feathers, says I! More panache! More stripes and checks and houndstooth and tweed! Onward into the breach!  *now standing, spills gin*

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« Reply #98 on: December 30, 2011, 03:25:52 pm »


Mr. RATFINKBOYMICAH, well done, sir! That is a zany combo and has the spunk of the 19th Century American city street squirted all over it. I expect and hope that Mr. Vagabond Gentleman, who understands and speaks the fashion of New York, will weigh in with an opinion. BTW, you might post these photogravures in the Steampunk Dressup thread for the larger audience.


yes, this. it brought VG to mind for me as well...

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« Reply #99 on: December 30, 2011, 08:21:30 pm »


Mr. RATFINKBOYMICAH, well done, sir! That is a zany combo and has the spunk of the 19th Century American city street squirted all over it. I expect and hope that Mr. Vagabond Gentleman, who understands and speaks the fashion of New York, will weigh in with an opinion. BTW, you might post these photogravures in the Steampunk Dressup thread for the larger audience.

Mme. Ruta Gamal, I think the gates of multicultural steampunk have been burst asunder for some time now, and any of the 'All-Volunteer Steampunk Fashion Police' who didn't get the memo are sorely behind the times. More feathers, says I! More panache! More stripes and checks and houndstooth and tweed! Onward into the breach!  *now standing, spills gin*


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