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Author Topic: Kepis exposed  (Read 1756 times)
Sgt.Whatshisname
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« on: October 20, 2011, 08:05:55 pm »

After some experimentation, I finally have all of the basics down


( yada yada yada,  Kepi, Forage cap, whatever dude Roll Eyes )

First attempt
Made from a heavey white muslin laundry bag I had hanging around from college
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Same hat Dyed brown
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Next was one made of actual wool
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Both hats together


You learn more from each one. This is NOT Rocket Science. If I can get to this point in what? a week?

next I'm going to try a Black one, then probably I'll go for traditional
Artillery Red
Federal blue
Confederate gray

Not nessacarilly in that order Wink
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 09:11:56 am »

Very nice work! Definitely muche nicer looking than my first attempt. Smiley
How did you make and add the visor?
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Sgt.Whatshisname
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 04:53:41 pm »

Very nice work! Definitely muche nicer looking than my first attempt. Smiley
How did you make and add the visor?

I stole your Idea...

Oh wait, no I, er , Commandeered your idea in the name of military effiency and national security...er thats it, yea! Grin

I took an old baseball cap apart, cut the plastic visor down, sandwhiched it in between two pieces of black cloth, and sewed them into the kepi.

So basically, I did nothing original here. I used Lord Zonkers facebook how to and your baseball hat idea.

you think I should do a picture how to?
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akumabito
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 06:05:05 pm »

Haha, well, it works though, doesn't it? And that's the important part! Grin
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Sgt.Whatshisname
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 04:54:49 am »

First , I  took Lord Zonkers basic pattern,
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,31765.0.html
 tweaked it and modified it.

Then I took akumabito’s Baseball cap Idea
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,29435.0.html
and tweaked and modified that for the visor…

basically I  didn’t come up with anything original, hmmm, I’m just like Edison

Oh I’m the very model of a modern major Edison
I’m going to steal it all so shut up and take your medicine….
  ( gimmee a break folks, I’m working on the fly here)   Wink

You’ll need material, an Old baseball cap and the plastic lid to a 2lb coffee can

Step 1), You need your patterns  You can use any material you want but heavier material like wool, muslin,  etc. seems to work better.
First, Cut a Circle pattern out of paper, manilla envelope, oak tag ,etc, 5 ½ Inches in dia.
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2) On your material, mark out TWO of these circles
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3) Cut the circles out
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4) Take your plastic coffee can lid
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5) And trim that down to about a 5” Diameter circle
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6) Place the plastic disc between the two cloth circles and sew it all together along the outside edge.
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7) Now you’ll need a patter for the main part of the hat. I wear a 7 3/8 size hat so you can adjust as needed. ( Also refer to L.Zonkers site if necessary)
 The dimensions are

11” on the top,  3 ½” on the front side, 13” on the bottom, 5 ½ on the rear side.  This is half of the pattern.
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Cool Lay the pattern on your material and mark the material.
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9) Flip the pattern and repeat the process
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10) Cut the material out, leave yourself about  ½” extra so you can fold it to the inside and have decent looking edges.
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11) now fold the edges over and sew them so everything is nice and neat and squared away.
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12) If you’re going to want a colored band for branch of service, add this at the bottom now.   (IE: Blue for Infantry, Red for Artillery, something like I did just cause it looks cool.)
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13) Now you’re ready to sew the top to the main part. Start at the front ( where the 3 ½ inch wide ) part of the hat is. When you get all of the way around to the back, do not sew it completely up, leave the back seam open.
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14) If you want, put a couple of pins in the back seam to hold it together so you can see if it’s what you want.
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   Next…The visor
Warning cute, innocent baseball caps
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were butchered in the process of making these. If the baseball cap rights people don’t like it,  they and Abner Doubleday can go somewhere and cry.  Grin

15)   Cut the plastic visor out of the cap
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16)   Now you need a pattern to cut your visor to proper shape. Mine is 5 ½” long by 3 ½” wide
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17)   Now you sew what is more or less a “bag” of material that your visor will fit into
  
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18)   Now turn the bag “inside out” put the plastic visor in and sew as tightly to the visor as possible
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A quick note. Real US CivWar and French kepis and Forage caps of the time had leather visors, not plastic and cloth, as well as a leather strap around the front half of the colored band in, case you want to go all out for authenticity. However this is NOT re enacting. If it were, and you made one of these, the Stitch Nazis would come and throw you in Re-Enactorshwitz where you would languish until a bunch of out of shape, overweight  middle aged guys wearing WWII American 101st airborne uniforms came and liberated you.

19)   Sew Visor to Kepi
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20)   Sew up the back seam

It should look like this
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 I’m sure with the talent on brass goggles, you people should be able to produce even better stuff if you want.

I think next, I may try a French Foreign Legion stovepipe version.



( OMG do I need a shave!!!!!!)   Shocked
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 10:11:29 am by Sgt.Whatshisname » Logged
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 04:44:45 pm »

really good walk through, thank you Cheesy

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 04:09:56 am »

*steals coffee can lid idea and sneaks back to the drawing boards*   Grin

I like it!
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Sgt.Whatshisname
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 12:26:09 pm »

*steals coffee can lid idea and sneaks back to the drawing boards*   Grin

I like it!

Should I buy MORE stock in maxwell house?  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 12:57:01 pm »

Good to see the visor didn't just flop down in front of your eyes.. that was the bit that worried me most and the reason why I went with a baseball cap as a base.. Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2011, 07:17:37 pm »

*steals coffee can lid idea and sneaks back to the drawing boards*   Grin

I like it!

Should I buy MORE stock in maxwell house?  Grin

Depends how many French and American soldiers appear in the film that I'm working on.   Grin  (and perhaps which German states/units as the design can be modified a bit to replicate one of the shakos sometimes used instead of the pickelhaube)
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2012, 06:25:43 pm »

Just now saw this thread. Glad it was helpful to ya. I am guessing one of the tweaks was at the back where it comes together you rounded that off? Definately needs that.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 12:07:59 am »

So I was going to use the coffee can lid idea.....and then I decided to use leather.....  This was my first attempt at a kepi (Confederate 1862 Regulation):  no pattern other than a large circular shape.  



And in the short time since I posted that picture....I added a liner which added a bit more structure to it:  

Note: not having thick enough leather, I did what the Confederates did and put cheap leather over top of card board.  (and painted it black)

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