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« on: October 31, 2011, 10:53:14 pm » |
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Steampunking a Helmet Phase I Well one of the things I have done in the past is restoring WWI German Stalhimes now and then I pick up a rusty shell an make it look presentable with a period camo paint job and make up a correct leather liner.... This is one I am working on... I decided to put my skills to the test of creating an helmet that could fit into the Steampunk era... So here we go! My Victim of choice is an old Com Bloc East German helmet mainly because there is no great historic value and they are still on the inexpensive side... During WWI both sides did camo paint jobs on helmets and equipment for the most part the intent was to break up the silhouette, there were no standard colors issued to do this many times they would buy available paints in town and either use them as is or mix and match to get a better color Many of the helmets had black borders outlineing each color segment as you can see at this stage an old East German helmet actually looks pretty good...... Phase II the actual Steampunking of the helmet..... One of the modern contrivences we have at work is a laser cutter I sent a Skull & Crossbones image down to our tech. and he made me a couple of stencils... I have other stencils also being made for this project so stay tuned for future developments.... and inhancements..... |
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 11:02:43 pm » |
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None of the pics are working, sadly..  |
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, 11:06:09 pm » |
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They are showing fine here....
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 11:44:56 pm » |
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Looking good! I love the period-style camo, and I'm excited to see what other stencils you plan on using.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 12:12:42 am » |
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Looking good! I love the period-style camo, and I'm excited to see what other stencils you plan on using.
Thanks, If this comes out the way I expect it to I think most people will be happy with it.... I moved the photo's over to a different photo hosting site, I guess that fixed things..... enjoy! |
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 12:23:00 am » |
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Hmmmm
Basically what you want is a camouflage pattern suitable for infiltrating Victorian tea rooms, an nice Victorian wallpaper pattern.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 10:34:55 am » |
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Pics are working now, looking great!
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 11:36:59 am » |
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adding some vent/pins would age it a bit, and maybe even the armor plate that would hang on them.
easy way to get a thick piece of something that conforms to your helmet is to take a section of big PVC pipe and slit it along one side and heat it gradually with a torch until you can pry it open. then you can heat the inside more ernestly and not to worry if it gets a little scorched. once very limber, drape it on the helmet and hold it down until it cools and firms a bit (the metal will draw the heat pretty fast) unfortunately it would ruin your paint job at this point.
once its shaped, you can cut it to whatever outside shape you like. if it was me, I would look to even do some putty on it to look like the ceramic ablative skin they used on tiger tanks.
I have an old bulgarian helmet that vaguely follows the german lines. the thing is about the thickest helmet I've ever seen too. probably three times thicker than that east german tissue box.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 04:45:03 pm » |
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That looks great! I would be tempted to put a spike/vent on it, myself. Good luck, whatever you decide to do - and keep us posted!
Cheers!
Chas.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 12:52:24 am » |
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looking good thus far, keep us informed  |
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 02:02:25 am » |
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I am drooling at the first picture. Is that a 1910 Maxim that I spy?  Good work so far. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 04:54:12 am » |
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Looks like a 1910 Maxim- that shield is a dead giveaway. How about a mail neck guard or curtain about 3/4 of the way around?
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 02:57:54 pm » |
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Yes that is a Russian M1910 Maxim....I was wondering if that teaser would be caught... it goes well with the Vickers and Sworholtz..... Wait till you see what I Steampunk up as far as armament......
neck guards and such are all very good ideas..... but you will have to wait on that.... I need to find my planishing hammers it's been years since I did any armor.......
Still waiting on stencils from the company Tech.... you know work comes before the improtant stuff.......
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 05:04:31 pm » |
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Yes that is a Russian M1910 Maxim....I was wondering if that teaser would be caught... it goes well with the Vickers and Sworholtz..... Wait till you see what I Steampunk up as far as armament......
neck guards and such are all very good ideas..... but you will have to wait on that.... I need to find my planishing hammers it's been years since I did any armor.......
Still waiting on stencils from the company Tech.... you know work comes before the improtant stuff.......
I was WWI German and WWII Russian when I did reenacting....I faced the Vickers and played with a Maxim. Instead of mail you could do segmented bands as a neck guard with maybe a mail "sniper veil." |
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 05:39:38 pm » |
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Yes that is a Russian M1910 Maxim....I was wondering if that teaser would be caught... it goes well with the Vickers and Sworholtz..... Wait till you see what I Steampunk up as far as armament......
neck guards and such are all very good ideas..... but you will have to wait on that.... I need to find my planishing hammers it's been years since I did any armor.......
Still waiting on stencils from the company Tech.... you know work comes before the improtant stuff.......
I was WWI German and WWII Russian when I did reenacting....I faced the Vickers and played with a Maxim. Instead of mail you could do segmented bands as a neck guard with maybe a mail "sniper veil." My Re-enacting days were American Revolution ... My Avatar is me in my civilian atire hanging around my favorite kind stuff.... Cannon.... There is a painting of George Washington with a cannon... that was the flavor I was aiming for whith the photo... though I am no Geo. Washington... I had planned on doing some WWII re-enacting once I finished my Dodge WC51 but had to sell the almost finished project when I moved from N.Y. to Virgina... The three watercooleds are parts kits made into display guns..... I have a Vickers kit I plan on building into a Semi-auto thanks to the accursed 86 law... that's the best I can do with it.... You are thinking along the same lines as I that's why I need to find my planishing hammers.... I made a couple of English Civil War helmets and a gorget so I am planing some segments and cheek pieces ... wait till you see the goggles..... |
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2011, 03:53:25 am » |
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So many teasers! You're getting me all excited!  |
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2011, 02:17:12 pm » |
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They are showing fine here....
As KABAR2 says, they ARE showing fine. Considering that that is not the purpose of camouflage, I must say, you've missed your mark, my friend. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2011, 12:42:37 am » |
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They are showing fine here....
As KABAR2 says, they ARE showing fine. Considering that that is not the purpose of camouflage, I must say, you've missed your mark, my friend. While he is talking about the photo's showing... I see you do not agree with the camo.... Oh well..... I am using historically accurate patterns of the the Great War.... Camo was in it's infancy - no digital here.... the idea is you are not using it to hide from someone at 10 or 20 feet but at 50 or 100 yards or more it breaks up the outline of the helmet and makes it a harder target for the eye to pick up on ...... during this period the military didn't hand out paints to camo your helmet you went into the closet village or town and scrounged up what ever paints you could find I have seen original helmets with outrageous colors on them ... one had an dull orange on it.....another a bright blue... So all I can say is Camo at this time frame is in the eye of the painter....So don't worry you won't have to wear it....... Found my hammers , still waiting for the stenciles.... will be updating this later this week.... |
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2011, 01:42:18 am » |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brow-armor.jpgEven philosophical reasoning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestalt_PsychologyThere are actually stories of pacifist/foreign artists in Paris being recruited to paint equipment for the allies. Apart from ghillie suits and white coveralls (winter) the bulk of camouflage is designed not to hide the human body, but disrupt its shape. Some of the best camouflage ever designed was simple khaki or olive drab uniforms, (hence why every nation involved started making dull colors in 1915, after seeing how invisible the British could be) the problem being is that the bulk of camouflage designed after World War I was designed with a specific purpose. When I did reenacting, many people would pull out the summer (green) camouflage for summer and the fall (brown) camouflage for fall-snowless winter, problem was, on the ground level, in almost any time of the year, unless you are in a grass covered yard, most of the color you see is brown. Unless you can be guaranteed one set of circumstances, the best option, just wear something subdued.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2011, 02:03:51 am » |
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D.Oakes, Thanks for filling in the blanks.... I know you said you had done WWI re-enacting, did you ever come down to an event near Newportnews Va. ? My boss has a 50MM Krupp mountian gun and I forgot to mention I did a little WWI re-enacting also...... This is me manning a 76mm Krupp fieldgun....... I am the fellow on the right..... As you can see I should probably be in "Heavy Artillery" too much knockwurst und sourkraut..... My Uniform was a quicky.... the jacket is converted form a Swiss jacket the Field Muze,pants and leggings I sewed up in one afternoon the day before the event...amazing what you can do when the pressure is on..... And last but not least this is a photo of my Grandfather Karl Markmiller who was in the Great War in an Artillery unit.... he was so young in that photo..... |
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2011, 02:33:01 am » |
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Ahhh, the old days of Swiss and Swedish uniforms. I miss those. Dang, I love the collars on your grandfather's uniform. (opens up one of many debates I have had with stitch Nazis over uniform variations)  Had to borrow everything...except the helmet. I got out of it mainly because running a young Russian WWII unit and going to college was not the best enviroment for starting World War I German. (the prices...YIKES!) |
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2011, 02:38:18 am » |
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D.Oakes, You make a good german.... That was a close up of this photo as you can see it is the overcoat, hence the larger collar... |
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2011, 02:46:33 am » |
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Even then, compared to the reproductions, that collar.... Then again, come to think of it, I don't ever remember seeing one at an event...we had planes and artillery...but no overcoats. |
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