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Jupiter Harsh
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« on: August 20, 2011, 05:27:34 pm » |
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Discuss.
My 2 favorite ever:
"Unusual duels
In 1808, two Frenchmen are said to have fought in balloons over Paris, each attempting to shoot and puncture the other's balloon; one duellist is said to have been shot down and killed with his second.
Thirty-five years later in 1843, two men are said to have fought a duel by means of throwing billiard balls at each other."
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"But we don't really live in the past; we live in the present as it should have been if the entire 20th century hadn't gone so horribly wrong!"
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TVC15
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 06:42:31 pm » |
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Being a former resident of New Orleans, the web page below has some pretty good history of a 'famous' site that I had visited quite often. For your pleasure: http://www.duellingoaks.com/ |
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VincentSM
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 08:19:01 am » |
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Tea !!
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Aleister Crow
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 04:20:49 pm » |
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This looks like an excellent spot to repost this:
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'How cheerfully he seems to grin,
How neatly spread his claws,
And welcome little fishes in
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TVC15
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 05:55:04 pm » |
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Where do you find this stuff? Absolutely loved it. |
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kecharanyght
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 06:24:09 pm » |
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LOL I LOVED it! Simply perfect! The Hubby and I couldnt stop laughing! |
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Aleister Crow
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 06:32:43 pm » |
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Where do you find this stuff? Absolutely loved it.
Um... Youtube?  Seriously though, it's been posted here about half a dozen times. |
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Captain Lyerly
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 05:12:01 pm » |
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There was a thread a couple of weeks ago discussing Steampunk duels, including weapons and rules.
I am working on a Code Duello for the New Millennium, I will post what I have, anon. It seems to me that such could be handled rather nicely, if we can find paintballs that leave a mark that won't actually leave a stain, and there are some that make that claim.
There are a few famous duels and challenges; sometimes the challenges are more interesting than the duel itself. When someone challenged Abraham Lincoln, the story goes that he chose broadswords as weapons. Since his opponent was of only average height and reach, another means of settling was quickly found.
Fascinating subject, all around.
Z
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NicholasTheRed
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 11:00:21 pm » |
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Another good story about a duel that was resolved outside of combat was between Bernard Marigny and James Humble. Pretty much everyone agrees the story has probably had some exaggeration add to it but in it's current form it goes a little something like this. Marigny, a Creole from a well to do family, felt he was grievously insulted by Humble, a county blacksmith, so challenged him to a duel. Humble, not being of the gentry, had no idea how to handle a sword or pistol wanted to concede but was convinced by a friend that if he did no one would ever take him seriously again. So, being the challenged, Humble declared the conditions of the duel. It was to be fought with sledgehammers in six feet of water. It is said that Humble stood nearly seven feet tall while Marigny was under five foot eight. Seeing no possible way to win Marigny negotiated.
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Zeppelin Kapitan Fritz
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 11:18:21 pm » |
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I am opposed to any form of duelling, it is not a civilized way to settle a dispute. Also, if you have gotten to a point in which violence would actually be an acceptable solution to settle a dispute, there's no point trying to be gentlemanly about it, that would be oxymoronic. Be a combat pragmatist.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 11:46:06 pm » |
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One of my favorites is the American Western legend of the duel between Mattie Silks, a brothel madame, and Katie Fulton over the disputed affections of a common suitor.
It is rumored, but not necessarily verified, that the duel was fought topless. Whether true or not, it makes for great Western legend copy.
What is true is even better, in that the disputed suitor was accidentally hit by an errant shot and was the only one to suffer injury.
Hmmmm...errant indeed.
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Believe me, there exists no such dilemma as that in which a gentleman is placed when he is forced to reply to a blackguard. ~Edgar Allan Poe
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2011, 04:10:57 am » |
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Prof Marvel
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2011, 07:42:43 am » |
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Ah My Dear Monsieur Harsh - Discuss.
rather Harsh errr terse, no? But back on topic two of my favorites are both from the American Frontier - 1) At an Independance Day ( 4th of July) Picnic, two inebriated Town Gentlemen traded words with each other, and satisfaction was demanded. The weapons were Roman Candles at 40 paces. The Townspeople were Highly Amused at the spectacle. b) Words Said to have been traded betwixt the Clasically Educated "Doc Holliday" and an illiterate cowhand : Cowhand - "Duel? I Cain't duel - The Earps done took my guns!" Holliday - " I know, let's have a Spelling Bee!" yhs prof marvel |
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Capt. Dirigible
Rogue Ætherlord
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2011, 11:00:00 am » |
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Let's not forget the 'Highland' way...
"We must return to Scotland and you must fight in the old Highland way - bare breasted and each carrying an eight pound baby".
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Jupiter Harsh
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 12:03:25 pm » |
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Let's not forget the 'Highland' way...
"We must return to Scotland and you must fight in the old Highland way - bare breasted and each carrying an eight pound baby".
Nowadays only wimen fight with swords, men fight with cannons! Ah My Dear Monsieur Harsh - Discuss.
rather Harsh errr terse, no?  didn't know how to put it so I went for the simple and brief  |
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 06:03:37 am » |
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Ah My Dear Monsieur Harsh - Discuss.
rather Harsh errr terse, no? didn't know how to put it so I went for the simple and brief But My Good Jupiter! Whyever would one wish to choose simple and brief when one can burn up electrons and destroy the planet wax eloquent at great length, for no apparent reason? After all, some of the greatest lawyery minds regularly advocate "Never Use One Word When A Dozen Will Suffice" . yhs prof (babbling meaninglessly) marvel |
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2011, 11:29:41 am » |
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There was a thread a couple of weeks ago discussing Steampunk duels, including weapons and rules.
I am working on a Code Duello for the New Millennium, I will post what I have, anon. It seems to me that such could be handled rather nicely, if we can find paintballs that leave a mark that won't actually leave a stain, and there are some that make that claim.
There are a few famous duels and challenges; sometimes the challenges are more interesting than the duel itself. When someone challenged Abraham Lincoln, the story goes that he chose broadswords as weapons. Since his opponent was of only average height and reach, another means of settling was quickly found.
Fascinating subject, all around.
Z
And as I remember in my thread on "competition shooting," I also suggested chalk tipped nerf darts, as I have some clothes that were washed immediately and still have stains. The same with the chalk can be done with waster swords. It's a shame more people aren't into steampunk...the only people who have threatened my honor or that of my women (past and present...I am a one woman at a time kinda guy, ugh it still sounds bad ) are outside of steampunk. |
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 07:55:54 pm » |
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So I suppose Hostess chocolate cream cupcake cannons at twenty paces is too much?  Cream pies at ten paces?  Water balloons? Water balloon slingshots at forty? Anyone?  Loser pays the cleaning bill? |
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2011, 08:07:44 pm » |
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Or sausages.
In the 19th century, it is said that the famous pathologist Rudolf Virchow managed to so enrage German statesman Prince Otto von Bismarck with his criticism, that the prince challenged him to a duel.
Virchow responded with his choice of weapon. Sausages.
He delivered two sausages to Bismark with a message stating that one of the sausages had been poisoned with trichinae, which would cause a slow and lingering death. The prince was to choose one, and eat it, the pathologist would eat the other.
Bismarck reasoned that a man might die with some sort of honour on a duelling field, but never by food poisoning. He sent the message back, "His highness has destroyed the sausages and asks that you be his guest at dinner this evening. After due consideration he feels he may have been slightly in error. He believes an agreement can be reached."
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2011, 08:13:57 pm » |
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Or sausages.
In the 19th century, it is said that the famous pathologist Rudolf Virchow managed to so enrage German statesman Prince Otto von Bismarck with his criticism, that the prince challenged him to a duel.
Virchow responded with his choice of weapon. Sausages.
He delivered two sausages to Bismark with a message stating that one of the sausages had been poisoned with trichinae, which would cause a slow and lingering death. The prince was to choose one, and eat it, the pathologist would eat the other.
Bismarck reasoned that a man might die with some sort of honour on a duelling field, but never by food poisoning. He sent the message back, "His highness has destroyed the sausages and asks that you be his guest at dinner this evening. After due consideration he feels he may have been slightly in error. He believes an agreement can be reached."
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Capt. Dirigible
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2011, 08:22:56 pm » |
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Or sausages.
In the 19th century, it is said that the famous pathologist Rudolf Virchow managed to so enrage German statesman Prince Otto von Bismarck with his criticism, that the prince challenged him to a duel.
Virchow responded with his choice of weapon. Sausages.
He delivered two sausages to Bismark with a message stating that one of the sausages had been poisoned with trichinae, which would cause a slow and lingering death. The prince was to choose one, and eat it, the pathologist would eat the other.
Bismarck reasoned that a man might die with some sort of honour on a duelling field, but never by food poisoning. He sent the message back, "His highness has destroyed the sausages and asks that you be his guest at dinner this evening. After due consideration he feels he may have been slightly in error. He believes an agreement can be reached."
I can see it now..the adjudicator opens a velvet lined box with two sausages laying inside "Gentlemen, chose your weiners." The two duellists make their choice and one taunts the other.. "Do your wurst!" |
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VincentSM
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2011, 08:33:58 pm » |
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Superbly Steampunk; and delightfully 'bouncy' in several places Best Ivan Norton Steamwinch |
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Mercury Wells
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2011, 09:09:16 pm » |
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Ecky Thump!
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TVC15
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2011, 09:38:17 pm » |
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This may qualify: A few years back, two agrieved technicians squared off at each other in a large room with a hard, smooth floor. As they were seated in their respective rolling chairs and each clutching a mop aimed at one another, their seconds, upon counting to three, raced the opponents at each other. The end result was bruised ribs from laughing for thirty minutes straight. Whatever grievance they had was forgotten about completely.
Come to think about it, this qualifies as a joust.
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Captain Lyerly
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2011, 12:04:31 am » |
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When I was in the Service, I noticed that Article 114 of the Unified Code of Military Justice - the modern version of the Articles of War in the States - was a general prohibition on duelling. I decided then and there that, were I ever to be separated from the Service for cause, I wanted it to be for Article 114.
There was such a charge some time back, but it was in with enough others (alcohol having figured prominently) that it didn't really make any headlines. Nobody was injured but some innocent parked vehicles.
Cheers!
Chas.
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