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Author Topic: Could Coffee be Considered Steampunk?  (Read 3719 times)
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« on: May 25, 2011, 05:57:27 pm »

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen.

I know that tea stands as the steampunk's staple hot drink, but could coffee be considered steamy aswell? I have tried tea several times and have never found it to my liking, however I am a most definite coffee addict.

What say you, fellow steampunks?
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 06:10:32 pm »

Depending on how well you can spin a tale, almost anything up to and including Skittles (strike that, just noticed you are an Englander -- think Smarties instead) can be "considered steampunk."  Almost nothing short of a Martian Tripod war machine is intrinsically Steeampunk.
For what it's worth, a balancing siphon coffee maker is impressively brass and complex.

Drink what you like, and d*mn the nay-sayers!
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 06:26:40 pm »

I like to think to myself, a man needs coffee like a gigantic steam-bot needs coal. It's what I tell myself so I can sleep at night. Except I don't. Since, coffee. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 06:31:19 pm »

Hmmm? Good question.......now, if you throw a bit of chicory in with coffee, you get....

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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 08:47:19 pm »

I would say it depends on how it is made. If you get yourself a nice brass percolator, throw some gauges into the mix and a showy way of steam release, then yes. You have made steampunk coffee.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 10:30:56 pm »

Short answer: Yes, absolutely. It's just down to which beverage you prefer, if either. 'Coffee' has been made by grinding beans & straining boiling water through them for centuries. You can make all sorts of different types of coffee through use of different shot lengths, how much water you use, how much steamed or frothy milk you wish to use and whether there are any extra's to throw in, but on the whole the principle remains the same.

However, and wholly on a personal level, I prefer hot chocolate. Not, as far as I am aware, exactly SteamPunk but I can't abide coffee and tea is...not exactly my favourite.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 08:44:32 am »

Sorry about this because it's not terribly helpful but I really had to.

In a word and a link: Yes
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070618
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2011, 09:05:25 am »

But of course. Assuming that steampunk is roughly set in Belle Epoque or Victorian era, coffee can fit there nicely. It was very popular in Italy, Austro-Hungarian Empire and, of course, Ottoman Empire (where it have been a staple drink for several centuries). It also was rather popular in France and Russian Empire.

As it reqiured a refined taste and was hardly mainstream drink, it was more popular among people looking for exotic drinks, artists, and middle-class intellectuals. As far as I know, in XIX-century it was considered more a "long drink" (of a non-alcoholic variety) than a staple drink used to ward off fatigue.

And, as Clockwork Bee aptly pointed out, there is hardly a single house appliance more steampunkish than a coffee machine. Well, maybe with an exception of nice coal samovar.

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 10:13:05 am »

Coffee in a mass produced disposable cardboard cup isn't steampunk.

Coffee in a splendid china cup, a big hefty industrial mug or a old fashion thermos could be steampunk, especially if it's being drunk by a steampunk.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 10:35:46 am »

I just leave this here...
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2011, 10:59:17 am »

*drops jaw*

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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2011, 12:53:44 pm »

Ooooh.  Shiney.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 01:27:13 pm »

Our twice-monthly local Steampunk gathering is at a coffee shop, and there isn't a one of us calling foul Wink
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2011, 06:16:17 pm »

That depends somewhat on your definition of "steampunk". I like to think of it as "the future as imagined by the Victorians".  In which case, Coffee is a definite part of that: coffee shops were a staple of Victorian England, and even more popular in Europe around the same time -- it's where very much "real business" took place.

Here is some interesting reading on the topic

And, as evidence for Coffee's Steampunk cred:


(From Girl Genius)
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2011, 06:50:26 pm »

Although I am a tea drinker and only rarely touch coffee. I would have thought that coffee would fit in especially the more elaborate kinds. The instant coffee's not so sure of.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2011, 05:12:29 pm »

Although I am a tea drinker and only rarely touch coffee. I would have thought that coffee would fit in especially the more elaborate kinds. The instant coffee's not so sure of.

Instant coffee is evil. Granted, it's occasionally a necessary evil, but...
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2011, 08:35:23 pm »

The only use I've ever found for instant coffee is in baking, when you want a coffee flavor with no aqueous component, such as chocolates and frostings.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2011, 10:59:29 pm »

Okay, I have to put this up...

Proper Cup of CoffeeDQ
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2011, 07:23:24 pm »

It's just coffee. It doesn't matter wether you're a steampunk or a transvestite bank manager, it's just a hot drink like any other. Drinking it out of a copper boiler won't make it or you any more steampunk, because it's just a drink.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2011, 07:34:01 pm »

I have to agree with Honeythorn.
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2011, 10:42:51 pm »

It reminds me a bit of how certain tabloids seem determined to divide everything into things that cause cancer and things that cure cancer.
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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2011, 11:47:51 pm »

Honeythorn is right, of course, but I still want one of those...copper and brass...coffee thingies.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2011, 12:02:32 am »

Because it has a few brass trimmings? No, for elegance and engineering you need one of these:

Gold Balancing Vacuum Espresso Coffee MachineDQ
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2011, 12:26:26 am »

I too agree with Honeythorn. And I made a label for my coffee tin with a steampunk flare.
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2011, 02:52:33 am »

It reminds me a bit of how certain tabloids seem determined to divide everything into things that cause cancer and things that cure cancer.

And usually the same substance ends up on both lists....
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