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Author Topic: A Collective Thread for All Them Guns Pt. II  (Read 200933 times)
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2011, 12:56:29 am »

New pistol that fits an old shoulder holster that I have had laying around forever.  Note the cartridges.








Made from a fire extinguisher handle, torch handle, misc pipe fittings, CO2 cylinders
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2011, 06:11:52 am »

Looks nice. Poor old torch. Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2011, 02:22:56 pm »

New pistol that fits an old shoulder holster that I have had laying around forever.  Note the cartridges.








Made from a fire extinguisher handle, torch handle, misc pipe fittings, CO2 cylinders


Maets you are a master firearms builder and I salute you!
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2011, 03:19:39 am »

Thanks!  This last one basically built itself. 
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2011, 11:09:47 pm »

Thought I would start things off with my new steam powered weapon.  No name yet, but I wanted to show it and get some input.  Still need to make a stand and maybe a strap.








The cartridges are removalable.


Remove one screw and the whole thing disassembles.


Now that I really like, excellent work sir, very original
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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2011, 04:28:23 pm »

Submitted as inspiration for grip covers - Cobra skin on a .450 Webley Metropolitan Police

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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2011, 12:03:00 pm »

Submitted as inspiration for grip covers - Cobra skin on a .450 Webley Metropolitan Police

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Thats really Nice.
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2011, 01:18:35 am »

Latest pistol on display at Steam City - Waltham, MA

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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2011, 10:19:41 pm »

Well its Waltz on the Wye for us this weekend so its time for some steampunk gun.

I started off with a plastic gun (yeah I know  Embarrassed ) from a poundland playset.


After having a play with the rubber dart mechanism I removed it and reversed the inner barrel, we are on a tight buget so this was made with bits and pieces I had in the garage, some red acryilc paint and some silver car touch up paint.



Some copper wire and a lengh of copper brake pipe, and the missus did the fillegree with nail varnish.





A buget prop for £1 and a root around the garage...
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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2011, 10:23:16 pm »

I am seeking some aesthetic pointers for a hand gun project please. What interests me is the revolver described in the Erast Fandorin books by Boris Akunin. The revolver, which he first acquires in 1876 in "The Winter Queen" is described as a 7 shot Herstal revolver. Now FN Herstal say on their web site that they started manufacturing guns in 1889 "when many of the region's arms makers joined together to complete a large contract for 150,000 military rifles for the Belgian government under the original company name of Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre."
So, is the revolver described as a Herstal in 1876, actually a revolver made in the Herstal region by some other manufacturer? It is possible that someone was making revolvers to the Lefaucheux pattern then but I can't find any reference to a 7 shot revolver. The other feature which the book describes is a safety catch which means that all 7 chambers could be loaded, not needing an empty 'safety' chamber. I know you guys love your guns and it is an area that I have little knowledge of, so any info, particularly pictures would be very welcome. The "Herstal" first appears in the Fandorin books after 1870, so technically it is a modern fire-arm but I am assuming that the industry was flourishing much earlier in the century (before 1860) so I am hoping to keep this within the permitted time frame for historical weapons, particularly as that is the aesthetic I am trying to achieve.
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2011, 03:04:09 pm »

In this context, "Herstal" is used as a generic term, rather than a specific manufacturer. Liege was a major firearms manufacturing town in the 1870s.
The Belgians were famous (or notorious, if you will) for making knockoffs which typically retailed for less than 50% of the competitions' wares.
The earilest Nagant style comes too late (1877)
http://www.littlegun.be/ma_collection/belgique/be%20klmno/a%20be%20nagant%201878%20gb.htm

There's two 'most likely' choices for a seven shot Belgian revolver - a copy of the small, pocket-sized Webley "Bulldog" (probably in .320 caliber) or a copy of the Webley Royal Irish Constabulary (probably in .380 caliber).

Here's a primer on the Belgian Bulldog copies
http://www.nramuseum.com/the-museum/the-galleries/the-new-prosperity/case-48-the-booming-arms-industry/belgian-british-bulldog-revolver.aspx

and one for a Belgian RIC knockoff
http://195.134.118.90/en/museum/collections/13/exhibit/4279?fromCollectionPage=0

One form of safety, on a Bulldog (there are others, notably a 'rocker arm' style)
http://www.la-belle-epoque.net/english/e_arm_0006.htm

Poke around here, particularly in the manufacturers' pages - http://www.littlegun.be/
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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2011, 12:17:18 am »

Story, thank you for the reply - I can see how Herstal could be used as a generic term to describe a pistol made in that region. A bit like Sheffield steel I suppose? And thank you for the littlegun.be link - it is proving to be very absorbing and contains loads of design cues - just what I was looking for.
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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2011, 04:02:32 pm »

Happy to be of service, Fitziron.
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« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2011, 12:09:33 am »

I and most of my steampowered weapons will be on display at the Steampunk Worlds Fair this coming weekend.  Stop in and see how they look and feel in person.

Thanks!
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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2011, 03:08:20 pm »

In addition to Story's excellent info here's another candidate for Fandorin's pistol

DESCRIPTION: Beautiful and very scarce Imperial Russian military contract Galand M.1874 revolver made by Nagant in Belgium. Muller claims that this type of the revolver was issued to the Imperial Russian Border Guards. Only two thousand M.1874 revolvers were manufactured by Nagant for Russia. The revolver does not have any Cyrrillic markings, which is correct for this model. The Emile & Leon Nagant factory made Galands only for Imperial Russia (two contracts only, M.1874 for border guards, and M.1875 for navy). The butt of the hilt displays the Imperial Russian contract serial number. As far as a design is concerned, this is one of the most intriguing revolvers ever built. The barrel and cylinder assembly slides longitudinally away from the standing breech as the actuating lever (which forms the trigger guard) is pulled downward. Galand revolvers were also used by several other armies (France, Romania, etc). Several countries purchased small quantities of Galand revolver, either for testing, or for military trials (i.e. Switzerland). Non-fluted cylinder. Matching serial numbers. Left side of the barrel displays following markings, "C.F. Galand NVr Brevete". Charles Francois Galand was a Frenchman, but most of his revolvers were manufactured in Belgium. House of Liege proof is stamped on the cylinder. The upper part of the barrel displays the maker markings, "EM & L Nagant e Liege 1879". Complete with a lanyard ring. Barrel length: 125 mm.

http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/Pictures2009/apc_0229-02.JPG
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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2011, 10:40:45 pm »

Had already once built a steampunk gun built off this same Maverick. Got tired of it and a piece broke off, so I rebuilt it. I found that steampunk, while it does take place during the Victorian era, seems to only focus on alternate reality England. So, here's a piece from alternate reality Russia.

Backstory:

My good friend, a Commissar in the Russian Red Army, sent me photographs of his pistol. Built specifically for the Commissars of the army, this pistol packs a hell of a punch due to its large calibre round and a special system which coats the round in superheated plasma as it leaves the barrel, ensuring that even a grazing wound hurts badly.

In addition, the firearm, which my friend the Commissar didn't specify the name of, has a recoil reduction system in the handle, to keep the gun on target when fired with one hand. Because this is not a pistol designed for front line fighting, at least not true fighting, the pistol is not designed to be reloaded quickly. Instead, rounds are loaded individually through the front of the gun, and casings are ejected with an ejector mounted on the left side of the gun. It also features a set of glow in the dark sights on top of the firearm, to make it easier to fire at night. Finally, the slide has the words "For the Motherland!" written in Cyrillic, painted by my friend the Commissar, who does not have the steadiest of hands.

As he states, it is an autorevolver design. It works very much like a revolver, however, instead of the user pulling the trigger for each shot to turn the cylinder and drop the hammer, the recoil from each shot sends the slide back, which cocks the hammer and turns the cylinder, making for smoother trigger pulls, and thus, more accuracy.

Real information:

Like I said, it was built off a Maverick I had previously built (Seen here) that the barrel piece broke off of. Deciding I didn't like it too much, I wanted to go again at it. So I pulled the hot glued pieces off, sanded a little at the Nerf markings, and primered the gun. I painted the body in a few coats of Krylon's Oiled Bronze spraypaint, and I really like the colour of it, as well as gold spraypaint for the slide and cylinder.

Enamel model paint was used for the detailing, but as you can see, I have extremely shaky hands and thus the details came out poorly. I should have used a stencil, and my next incarnation of this will probably be a custom model with better painting done to it. I'm also no good at weathering, so I didn't do any of that, though a few touch ups have made the gun appear damaged, especially on the tip of the cylinder and right side of the slide.

Finally, about the bottle under the barrel: I wanted to have it filled with some kind of transparent green or yellow liquid, but I'm not sure how best to go about that. I wanted the overall effect to look something like the tubes of a level. I was thinking food colouring and water, but are there any better ideas?

This gun isn't very well done compared to most I see here, but for a second attempt, I think it's decent. I really need to practice my painting for the sequel, a Nerf Firefly that's going to be painted in a similar fashion.

Side view, and the bucket of parts that spawned the first steampunk gun I made

Grip, using a piece from the side of the first gun

Front, with the Hammer and Sickle visible, and the plasma container, which unscrews to be replaced

For the Motherland!

Business end. Hard to see, but the sight on top is painted a bright-ish red.
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2011, 04:34:45 pm »

So then, chaps and chapesses, I was requested by a friend of mine to recreate a gun from an old computer game called 'The Chaos Engine', by the Bitmap Brothers. The gun in question belonged to the character known as 'The Gentleman', and whilst I generally steer clear of building guns this one was too pretty not to at least have a go at. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms anyone may have regarding the outcome!

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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2011, 09:34:36 pm »

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Nail varnish filigree-  interesting

I have used a similarly designed item from a similar emporium to donate parts to two projects (barrel for one project, grip for another)

A great way to get form for a project where skill or resources are lackin (in my case both)
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2011, 10:35:39 pm »

So then, chaps and chapesses, I was requested by a friend of mine to recreate a gun from an old computer game called 'The Chaos Engine', by the Bitmap Brothers. The gun in question belonged to the character known as 'The Gentleman', and whilst I generally steer clear of building guns this one was too pretty not to at least have a go at. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms anyone may have regarding the outcome!

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Now that's a pistol!

Shades of Hellboy's Samaritan, which is never a bad thing!

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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2011, 01:29:31 am »

So then, chaps and chapesses, I was requested by a friend of mine to recreate a gun from an old computer game called 'The Chaos Engine', by the Bitmap Brothers. The gun in question belonged to the character known as 'The Gentleman', and whilst I generally steer clear of building guns this one was too pretty not to at least have a go at. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms anyone may have regarding the outcome!

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Is that pieces of a walnut cracker? Pretty neat.
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« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2011, 04:41:14 pm »

Walnut cracker? Now you mention it......

But no, all the pieces were machined by myself from stock. Well, I say machined, I did stuff to poor defenseless pieces of raw metal with files, lathes and whatnot (the Milling-Sans-Milling-Machine was particularly fun....)

Thanks for the comments folks, its nice to be able to post on this thread!

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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2011, 08:28:06 pm »

So then, chaps and chapesses, I was requested by a friend of mine to recreate a gun from an old computer game called 'The Chaos Engine', by the Bitmap Brothers. The gun in question belonged to the character known as 'The Gentleman', and whilst I generally steer clear of building guns this one was too pretty not to at least have a go at. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms anyone may have regarding the outcome!

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Good Job! Marvelous piece!!
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« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2011, 05:46:26 am »

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The photo was set up to highlight the hand crank machine gun I built.  The hand crank if fully functional, and gives enough control that it can fire one round at a time or empty the whole 28 round magazine in a matter on seconds.  Granted the ammunition is just 3 inch rubber bands and it has a modest range of about 30 feet.  I would have preferred a darker stain for the exposed wood parts, but honey pine was all I had on hand so it is what I used.

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« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2011, 05:26:30 am »

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The photo was set up to highlight the hand crank machine gun I built.  The hand crank if fully functional, and gives enough control that it can fire one round at a time or empty the whole 28 round magazine in a matter on seconds.  Granted the ammunition is just 3 inch rubber bands and it has a modest range of about 30 feet.  I would have preferred a darker stain for the exposed wood parts, but honey pine was all I had on hand so it is what I used.

Here are a few more shots

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Oh I like that gun, oh yes I do.
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« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2011, 06:22:10 am »


Oh I like that gun, oh yes I do.


Many thanks.  Though I must warn you, you are complementing a confederate lol.

I don't think it looks to bad for my first gun, and a complete scratch built at that.  Only plastic part is the pvc barrel.  I've made a few other things; an eye chart and model airship for the flight school I put on at the Emerald City Steampunk Expo in Wichita last November. But this is the first carry around prop that I've built.  I've got a few construction shots if anyone is interested in seeing them
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