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Author Topic: Yo, Brass Goggles, I heard you like to pimp guns!  (Read 682 times)
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« on: October 06, 2010, 04:10:42 am »

As cool as it would be to have Xzibit pimp my gun, I have one even better, the Brass Goggle forums, woo!

So, I'm gonna show you a bunch of before and after shots, here we go!

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And some of just the gun at different angles, after the painting.
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So, now getting a nice good look at it from all angles...I need help on how the hell to dress it up and really make it steampunk. I have a circle disc from a clock that says "Tempus Fugit" that I'll prolly put on the BB cartridge. Aside from that I am absolutely clueless as to how I can steampunk it. I just don't know what to put on or where to get the stuff... I mean I've looked at all kinds of different places, but without the gun with me it's hard to get an idea as to where it would go and how it would look. But aside from that I just don't know... I look at it and draw a blank. I have two clock pieces from some wrist watches, just bigger than a nickel maybe. Some super rusted bike chain, and a 3 pound full brass propane pressure gauge. The shape of the gun makes it difficult to really place things, but things like the pressure gauge, how would I get that to stick? It's damn heavy and I can't find any hoses to it. Home Depot and Rockys Ace hardware said they didn't have anything.

Anyways, I just need to ideas thrown around, inspiration, whatever... pleeeaasee??
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2010, 05:01:08 am »

Ideas? why sure!

Run metal electrical conduit out of each of those four vent holes below the sight rail.  (the flexible kind, that's all ridgey)

Attach a battery of old-timey-looking capacitors or even a little pressure tank to the opposite side of the gun and connect the conduit to it.

Attach brass flourishes to the barrel, & stock.

Put a "Doc Brown" looking scope on the top sight rail.

Barring that, put a very long old fashioned scope on it.  (The kind that is the length of the whole gun.)

Bend up a fake lever-action-style hand and trigger guard for it.

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 05:58:48 am »

Ideas? why sure!

Run metal electrical conduit out of each of those four vent holes below the sight rail.  (the flexible kind, that's all ridgey)

Attach a battery of old-timey-looking capacitors or even a little pressure tank to the opposite side of the gun and connect the conduit to it.

Attach brass flourishes to the barrel, & stock.

Put a "Doc Brown" looking scope on the top sight rail.

Barring that, put a very long old fashioned scope on it.  (The kind that is the length of the whole gun.)

Bend up a fake lever-action-style hand and trigger guard for it.

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That all sounds awesome, doable, and best of all cheap!

Now the only small part is that I only know what half of those look like, and even less on where to get them haha!

So, metal electrical conduit... where can I find it, and what do you mean by run it out of the holes? They're just shallow circular cutouts of the plastic, unless I bore holes into the actual gun plastic if that's what you meant.

Tgis one is fun...old-timey-looking battery with capacitors and a little pressure tank. Not a clue as to what those look like or where to get one, if you have a link, I'll bake you a pie.

brass flourishes... no idea what those are lol.

Doc Brown scope... any idea where I might find a good one cheap? I suppose I can check the Flea market I have up here on Sunday, but in the meanwhile, an idea of just what it looks like would help.

The bend up fake lever-action style hand and trigger guard, actually don't knwo what you meant by that. Could you elaborate a little more?

But seriously, thank you for those ideas... they sound really quite good and something I can probably do.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2010, 07:35:42 am »

looks to me like the woodwork came out fine afterall, kudos!

google image "bx wire" to see the cable casing he is talking about. they make end pieces for threading into junction boxes in house wiring, you might be able to find a size that you can force into and glue into the holes in the rail system. no need to drill any deeper.

google image "lever action shotgun" or "lever action rifle" to see the levr handle and how it follows the curve to the rear grip. it would look good but the pump handle would make it a bit confusing to look at.

a fanciful and complex scope shouldn't be overly hard to make yourself. start with the scope that came with the gun and add a bunch of stuff to the front of it to stretch it out and make a forward bracket to hold it above the barrel. take a look at doc browns gun from the movie to get ideas.
if the scope doesn't magnify the view, you could just turn it around so the small part is forward and add a long copper tube or even brass to it, with a bracket to hold the far end to the barrel.
you could add gears and knobs to the bracket to make it look really complicated and uber adjustable.

as far as the barrel tip, I have bought a couple of "recorders" which are basically flutes you play lengthwise, from dollar stores and from walmart and toys are us. they're cheap plastic toys you can cut up for different projects. some are fatter than others so shop around a bit. color isn't a problem since you can just paint it to match the gun anyways. the tip could be used or even the bulged part just ahead of the mouthpiece and whistle hole. that part looks sort of like a cannon end when you cut away the long tapered body from just in front of it.

google image "recorder flute" to see the basic shape most of them have. I have paid all of a dollar for most of them, so they're cheap parts to work with.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2010, 10:21:08 am »

That title just made me go "...so I mounted a gun on your gun so you can shoot while shooting!!"
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2010, 12:15:38 pm »

First, I want to say that you've done a cracking paint job on it.
It looks like wood and metal rather than plastic and that’s a damn good thing.
The stock and slider and especially awesome.

I think it'll be tricky to steam it much more than you already have.
The gun is a pump action shotgun with a magazine.
It's a well known type of gun, everyone is familiar with the shape and style of the base gun.
If you add things to it most people will see it as a pump shotgun with stuff stuck on.
You'll have a hard time trying to make it look like a lightning gun or clockwork gun because everyone can see it's a shotgun.

But, does it need steaming?
Perhaps the most classic shotgun, the Winchester Model 1897 was made in (surprise surprise) 1897, so pump shotguns are quite well sited in Victorian times anyway.

If it were me I'd be tempted to change some of the bolts for antique brass ( or modern brass that's been aged) and perhaps embellish the magazine.
It is the magazine that sets it apart from a normal Victorian shotgun anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 04:58:56 pm »

That all sounds awesome, doable, and best of all cheap!

Now the only small part is that I only know what half of those look like, and even less on where to get them haha!

So, metal electrical conduit... where can I find it, and what do you mean by run it out of the holes? They're just shallow circular cutouts of the plastic, unless I bore holes into the actual gun plastic if that's what you meant.

Tgis one is fun...old-timey-looking battery with capacitors and a little pressure tank. Not a clue as to what those look like or where to get one, if you have a link, I'll bake you a pie.

brass flourishes... no idea what those are lol.

Doc Brown scope... any idea where I might find a good one cheap? I suppose I can check the Flea market I have up here on Sunday, but in the meanwhile, an idea of just what it looks like would help.

The bend up fake lever-action style hand and trigger guard, actually don't knwo what you meant by that. Could you elaborate a little more?

But seriously, thank you for those ideas... they sound really quite good and something I can probably do.

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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 06:12:46 pm »

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Thank you for those links, now I can have some visual aids. I do have a question though. The capacitor, where could I find something like that, but smaller, to fit to a gun? And he pressure tank, even the one in the picture looks big. Where could I find a pressure tank, or at least pressure gauge with it's fittings small enough to fit on a gun?
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 11:50:58 pm »

If you want to go cheap and tiny why not take a water reserve off a small supersoaker style watergun and hit it with metallic type paint. It will take some more fabrication work on your part to make it look like whats in the photo but it will be lighter and you can add hoses, gauges bits and bobs to your need/liking.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2010, 02:25:19 am »

I don't know where in the US you live but I'm sure you have a Goodwill nearby...Go in there and look in the electronics section. There is so much JUNK that people probably wont by that is great to take apart and use pieces. The lamp section is ok but I think Goodwill has figured out that we scavenge anything that looks workable and charges 6 or 7 buck. FOR A BROKEN LAMP. Gaaaa.  Anyways the best small Conduit I have seen isn't really conduit its the flexible neck of a small lamps. Well  guess it's conduit since there IS wire running through it but they look more Industrial to me.

Look in the bathroom Isle and you will more than likely find a brass towel rack or brass curtain rod....Take a Magnet with you so you can check if its plated or not. Brass plated will more than likely be ferrous and the magnet will stick. (this goes for candle sticks and such too.) (for the scope) You may have to buy end caps or brass lamp pieces at Ace hardware or lowes. (Look in the isle that has all the bins filled with nuts, bolts, casters, screws) Check out the bargain 4.99 bin at Ace as well. they sometimes have those flexible flashlights. (same with those flexible usb lights but they are a bit more spendy)


For an old timey battery you may need to manufacture something. PVC end caps and a short bit of pipe is cheap and can be made to look like batteries, fusses.

The little pressure tanks can be made out of empty co2 cartridges for air rifles. If you ever see an old furnace or ac unit at the dump or on the side of the road you can scavenge them for parts. Some of the real old ones have some nice capacitors, Boosters, The TSV Valve on the indore coil has a nice little copper tank with a little tiny coiled copper tube coming from it to the TXV. (Thermo Valve) Anyways a screwdriver and a crescent wrench is all that is needed to remove it. Could still have a little pressure built up in the lines If some merely crimped the large copper tubes instead of draining the Coolant like they were supposed to.....Some Old fridges Have some nice stuff too. On the back or underneath. Newer Fridges keep some components on the inside of the shell.

If you have a Goodwill Bins nearby check it out too. They don't have shelves just bins full of stuff. usually unorganized or barely organized. I love going there. Just be sure to have at least 10 bucks because I always spend something there. and its usually charged by the pound. (Again Lamps they charge per piece. Even if it's obviously never going to work again as is.)

I hardly ever buy anything new (that's over $1) (except pvc pieces as they are usually glued on to anything I can find) One reason I have 9 or 10 projects that are not finished. Still looking for that perfect finishing touch.

(I so want to work this into something but will never spend 500 bucks for something that costs 5 bucks to make.)
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