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« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2010, 06:32:51 pm »

Inventive, but I can not escape the idea that really it is neither effective as a belt nor as a sword in any real-life scenario.. Now if they were to invent the beltumbrella on the other hand.. Grin


I would not think much of these belt swords in a fight but they seem to be designed for when the other person has less.  This site has some interesting trivia on concealed weapons: http://www.txssc.txstate.edu/LE/safety-alerts

As for the umbrella, I live in a rain forest and locals hate wearing hats or using umbrellas (it is a sign that you are a tourist.)

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« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2010, 07:52:24 pm »

One possibility is a combined sword and gun where a pistol of some sort was built into the hilt/guard of the sword. They did exist historically in the second half of the 19th C.

http://www.ruble-enterprises.com/PFsword.htm
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« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2010, 08:32:01 pm »

One possibility is a combined sword and gun where a pistol of some sort was built into the hilt/guard of the sword. They did exist historically in the second half of the 19th C.

http://www.ruble-enterprises.com/PFsword.htm




I have a reproduction Elgin Cutlass but nothing as fancy as that.



I have an 1851 Colt Navy that is in pieces (rear site doesn't align but it was gold plated) which I was thinking of "Deadlanding up" possibly with a dovetail mounted bayonet under the barrel.  I am not a good enough gunsmith to cobble the sabre to it though. 



(No hood though) I have too many projects to choose from.....
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« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2010, 09:20:02 pm »

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what are folks' feelings on cool historical and fantasy blades for Steampunk wear?

I think we're back to the whole overt steampunk vs. existing in a steampunk universe issue. Ceremonial and not-so-ceremonial blades were around during the Victorian era and I see no reason why a Victorian steampunk universe shouldn't also have them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will be perceived as intrinsically "steampunk" or be obviously "steam-able".

Sword guns are fantastic. And swordcanes. They're just awesome.... moreover, I have a vague recollection of seeing a cane-gun-sword at Leeds Armoury.
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« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2010, 10:04:00 pm »



There were cane guns and there are a few still being made.  Most are black powder which does not qualify as a firearm in the US.  My father was a large animal veterinarian (stainless knees & hip) and had a quite a cane collection but two are conspicuously missing: the pistol cane and the flanged mace cane (?)  Neither are made any longer so I am still looking for them.  
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« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2010, 10:44:48 pm »

http://beltswords.com/

These are potentially very clever BUT will need a lot of steaming.

(Caution - NSFW they seemed to have a used a topless model in some parts)


with words like "Topless Model" and "Belt Sword" in the same post I was expecting photos of a freak accident whilst wearing one  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2010, 01:07:39 am »

http://beltswords.com/

These are potentially very clever BUT will need a lot of steaming.

(Caution - NSFW they seemed to have a used a topless model in some parts)


with words like "Topless Model" and "Belt Sword" in the same post I was expecting photos of a freak accident whilst wearing one  Roll Eyes


where the heck is the topless model? lol, I couldn't find her
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« Reply #57 on: August 12, 2010, 01:41:26 pm »

http://beltswords.com/

These are potentially very clever BUT will need a lot of steaming.

(Caution - NSFW they seemed to have a used a topless model in some parts)


with words like "Topless Model" and "Belt Sword" in the same post I was expecting photos of a freak accident whilst wearing one  Roll Eyes


where the heck is the topless model? lol, I couldn't find her


Against my better judgment:
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« Reply #58 on: August 12, 2010, 08:26:11 pm »

http://beltswords.com/

These are potentially very clever BUT will need a lot of steaming.

(Caution - NSFW they seemed to have a used a topless model in some parts)


with words like "Topless Model" and "Belt Sword" in the same post I was expecting photos of a freak accident whilst wearing one  Roll Eyes


where the heck is the topless model? lol, I couldn't find her


Against my better judgment: http://www.hulu.com/embed/tQFHqzDDGt9e6XtDaes5Rg


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« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2010, 07:48:05 pm »

I have to say, though the electric sword is an interesting idea. What's the point?

The sword was (and is) a very effective killing tool. I don't think an electric charge would increase it's lethality that much, in fact, it might end up backfiring when you accidentally shock yourself while using it...
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« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2010, 07:50:12 pm »

I have to say, though the electric sword is an interesting idea. What's the point?

The sword was (and is) a very effective killing tool. I don't think an electric charge would increase it's lethality that much, in fact, it might end up backfiring when you accidentally shock yourself while using it...

Exactly! Stick to the pointy-stick idea!
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« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2010, 08:38:59 pm »

The pointy stick is, and forever will be, one of the most honed killing implements (it has had a fair while to get there!) but in a fight you recieve lots of small nicks and scratches from attacks that just brush you. Now imagine if each of these give you a shock, causes that muscle to contract and possibly gives you a little burn! That will open up a lot of time (reletivly) to counter or press your attack, and possibly give you a chance to make the killing or disabling blow!
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« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2010, 09:46:48 pm »

Screw practicality, insane experimentation for it's own sake is often the root of fantastic ideas. I mean, did we really need electric lights when we had perfectly good gas lamps?
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« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2010, 03:09:14 pm »

The pointy stick is, and forever will be, one of the most honed killing implements (it has had a fair while to get there!) but in a fight you recieve lots of small nicks and scratches from attacks that just brush you. Now imagine if each of these give you a shock, causes that muscle to contract and possibly gives you a little burn! That will open up a lot of time (reletivly) to counter or press your attack, and possibly give you a chance to make the killing or disabling blow!

Actually, most sword-fights end quickly with a single blow. Those long, drawn out duels seen in movies almost never happened. (though I'm sure they did occasionally, it would be an extremely rare event.)


Screw practicality, insane experimentation for it's own sake is often the root of fantastic ideas. I mean, did we really need electric lights when we had perfectly good gas lamps?

Okay, now you have a point. You are right that experimentation can lead to wonderful things.

Personally though, give me a Basket-Hilt Broadsword any day...
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« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2010, 08:58:57 pm »

You need a dagger to go with the sword too.

http://www.replicaweaponry.com/elfrdapico.html
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« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2010, 03:13:06 am »

You need a dagger to go with the sword too.

http://www.replicaweaponry.com/elfrdapico.html


Gun-knives, for when one method of execution just isn't enough =]
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« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2010, 11:11:58 pm »

You need a dagger to go with the sword too.

http://www.replicaweaponry.com/elfrdapico.html


Gun-knives, for when one method of execution just isn't enough =]






It would be ungentlemanly and discourteous to do somethings only half way. 

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« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2010, 05:46:02 am »

You need a dagger to go with the sword too.

http://www.replicaweaponry.com/elfrdapico.html


Gun-knives, for when one method of execution just isn't enough =]






It would be ungentlemanly and discourteous to do somethings only half way. 

A bullet holds but a single death while a blade holds many.


I love the axe gun.
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« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2010, 02:07:08 pm »

You need a dagger to go with the sword too.

http://www.replicaweaponry.com/elfrdapico.html


Now that's just cheating...
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« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2010, 05:41:13 pm »

Always a bad idea to bring a knife-gun to an axe-gunfight.  markf
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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2010, 04:31:59 pm »

I'm not sure what you do to a sword to make it steamy ... well, apart from sticking cogs to it. Smiley

Just don't electrify it.

Non-electrical fencing weapons are also known as steam weapons.


I have quite a few swords including a 1796 pattern light cavalry sabre, a artillery officers sword which has been sharpened - which dates it to the Great War, a RAF dress sabre which is made to be blunt on both sides, a sword bayonet and I think their might be a couple of Oriental swords in the chest as well.
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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2010, 06:53:00 pm »

I'm not sure what you do to a sword to make it steamy ... well, apart from sticking cogs to it. Smiley

Just don't electrify it.

Non-electrical fencing weapons are also known as steam weapons.


I have quite a few swords including a 1796 pattern light cavalry sabre, a artillery officers sword which has been sharpened - which dates it to the Great War, a RAF dress sabre which is made to be blunt on both sides, a sword bayonet and I think their might be a couple of Oriental swords in the chest as well.

I'll try not to piss you off, then.
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