Aerial Battleship- shipyard model

[hardlec]

I think a sailor should be painting RED DWARF on the hull with a broom (or has that been done?)

[von Corax]

On the alternative/invisible/kinetic mounting ideas:

Sounds like fun, but as Mr. Harrow pointed out, this is the sort of "architect's model which at first sits on a table in the middle of the Project Engineer's office, and later on is displayed in the Yard's Engineering Wing lobby under an oak-framed glass case, with a brass plaque underneath giving the vital statistics. The rod stand is, in my opinion, appropriate.

If it's a 'Shipyard model', then shouldn't it be in a Shipyard?

A scale model of the aerial 'Graving Dock' with the warship berthed to have Her bottom scraped would be lovely.

Shouldn't involve that much extra work, Dok.   

I think in this case the "Aerial Graving Dock" would constitute a separate project, and so should have its own shipyard model.

I don't like the 'nacelles' that are at either end of the side cylinders fitted to either side of the model.

The rectangular shape emerging from the hull, and turning 90 degrees and into a tube just looks like vacuum cleaner fittings to me.

Given the option to change it, I would have gone with the side cylinders finishing into a larger diameter sphere on each end that was then connected back to the hull.

I actually think the blocky shape of the mountings works well with the blocky shape of the superstructure, as a contrast to the curves of the hull. I do think they need more fiddly-bits, like perhaps walkways with safety railings, and maybe some small masts pointing fore and aft. I also think the side tanks should be faired into the mounting nacelles, rather than the abrupt transition Herr Dök has used.

[Herr Döktor]

Okay.

Iam goingto go waaaaaaaaaay out on a limb here and make a negative comment on the model thus far.

I do realise that this will trigger the local appreciation society hit squad and that my life as I know it is forfeit.

But....

I don't like the 'nacelles' that are at either end of the side cylinders fitted to either side of the model.

The rectangular shape emerging from the hull, and turning 90 degrees and into a tube just looks like vacuum cleaner fittings to me.

Given the option to change it, I would have gone with the side cylinders finishing into a larger diameter sphere on each end that was then connected back to the hull.

Okay - now I need to go underground.

Valid Points all, maduncle, but what I'm going for here is that strange mix of elegant and brutal that warships of the turn of the last century had; the 'iron fist in a velvet glove' thing, and I need to get it done on the next two weeks, so it's a bit late to change...

Mr Von Corax, I was toying with idea of small decks with turret mounted guns on the two front pontoon mounts, and I do have a fret of scale brass ladders...

PS: maduncle, don't go underground. Unless you have a mole machine you haven't been telling us about...

 

[Mr Peter Harrow, Esq]

Life boats/small craft, at least a Captains Gig to travel between vessels in the fleet, and what about refuelling? What about two large rods extending from the bottom of the vessel for just that purpose, oh you have already done that!

[Matthias Gladstone]

Life boats/small craft, at least a Captains Gig to travel between vessels in the fleet, and what about refuelling? What about two large rods extending from the bottom of the vessel for just that purpose, oh you have already done that!

Indeed; you must have covered lifeboats on each side of vessel with an aggregate capacity for the entire crew, as well as inflatable liferafts on each side with a capacity for half of the crew. (SOLAS)

[Herr Döktor]

Life boats/small craft, at least a Captains Gig to travel between vessels in the fleet, and what about refuelling? What about two large rods extending from the bottom of the vessel for just that purpose, oh you have already done that!

Indeed; you must have covered lifeboats on each side of vessel with an aggregate capacity for the entire crew, as well as inflatable liferafts on each side with a capacity for half of the crew. (SOLAS)

I'll just give each crewman a large umbrella and some waterwings.

[Matthias Gladstone]

That should be ok, so long as the umbrellas are Poppins grade.

[Major Twangy Rubber]

An important point made by Heinz Wolff on a radio programme the other week (something about the Titanic...) was that having enough lifeboats for the people aboard isn't enough. Ships tend to list when they capsize (cf Costa Concordia), and half of your lifeboats become inoperative when they're underwater already.

[Mr Peter Harrow, Esq]

You would want something like tiny dirigibles for the lifeboats.

[Arvis]

I'll just give each crewman a large umbrella and some waterwings.

 Give em a Mae West that doubles as a parachute. Just make sure your Mae West doesn't "go Mea West" on the way down!

[von Corax]

An important point made by Heinz Wolff on a radio programme the other week (something about the Titanic...) was that having enough lifeboats for the people aboard isn't enough. Ships tend to list when they capsize (cf Costa Concordia), and half of your lifeboats become inoperative when they're underwater already.

… Although if this ship's lifeboats are underwater, you've waited far too long to abandon ship.

[Lt. Thomas Corvidae]

Yeah, life-dirigibles are a must. Those pesky airbergs will get you every time.

[Herr Döktor]

Realised that there really needs to be some sort of power source, so, having combed my spares box and found some suitable engine/electric/power-like things, made this:

Also note the three smoke-stack like things that may or may not remain smoke stacks. Note also that I placed the brass masts to see how they look.

It sits behind the bridge and looks slightly dangerous...

[Dr cornelius quack]

I like the engine design very much.

But, it's going to take a hell of a flywheel to smooth out the power curve on a V4 configuration like that.

Can we expect to see a bank of 'coaling chutes' for 'in flight refuelling'?

[Malikon]

that's looking really cool. Neat seeing it progress through the thread.

The original artwork/inspiration is really neat too.

[Capt James Salt]

SUPER !!

[James Harrison]

I'm liking this a lot.  Can you rake the masts back to the same angle as the funnels? It looks a little 'odd' with bolt upright masts and 'racy' funnels.  Of course, if you're modelling a Japanese vessel then what you already have is entirely appropriate! 

[Story]

Realised that there really needs to be some sort of power source, so, having combed my spares box and found some suitable engine/electric/power-like things, made this:
 
Also note the three smoke-stack like things that may or may not remain smoke stacks. Note also that I placed the brass masts to see how they look.
 
It sits behind the bridge and looks slightly dangerous...

Having a viable engineering theory behind the design might help solidify your elements of design - what if the (raked?) brass masts are actually lightning rods, designed to capture and transfer power to those 'smoke-stack-thing' capacitors?

[Matthias Gladstone]

You'd have masts awyway even for communication - to hold antenae and to hoist signal flags on.
I take it Herr Doktor that you'll be flying the well known signal Admiral Nelson flew before the battle of Trafalgar?
"Bring me my brown trousers"
-Matt

[Sir Henry]

I thought it was
"It's all guns and fame until someone loses an eye"?

[Herr Döktor]

I thought it was "Keep an eye on 'em, lads, they may not be 'armless"

[Dr cornelius quack]

There seems to be a little confusion here.

This illustration may help.

[Herr Döktor]

There seems to be a little confusion here.

This illustration may help.

had to modify the picture code there, Dr. Q- now all is clear!

[Mr Peter Harrow, Esq]

No it isn't, but Dr Q's post helped with the confusion, which seems to be the meaning of his post.

[Banfili]

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