H.M.A.S Badger ~ Online Æther Ship ~ Member's Wanted (OOC Thread)

[Zuttle D. Curious]

Ummm, I wouldn't ask if it weren't kind of important to my next course of action. I have no intention of following Nightshade to the flyer, would you mind changing that for me?

[Alexis Voltaire]

Gunfire and swordplay during the unfolding chase may be safely assumed...

or maybe not.

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Edited for Miss Curious as well.

[Zuttle D. Curious]

Danke Miss Voltaire

[MWBailey]

sorry, me making assumptions yet again.

[Zuttle D. Curious]

Quite all right Bailey, thank you both for fixing it.

.... That second to last post of Grey's, Before the explanation of that great beast that was locked under the meteor, that was an offer to go rescue Nightshade and recover the artifact before the ceremony begins, correct?

By the way, beautiful job with that beast explanation

[Theosophus Grey]

Your humble servant, Miss Curious - sort of Forbidden Planet meets StarGate.   

Yes, once Alexis established that the Temple priests had the key and were going to slice Mr. Nighshade long, deep, wide and frequent as prelude to disaster, I thought it best that we take a small party to infiltrate.  I leave it to the inimitable Mr. Bailey to provide the action, as I will be offline soon. 

[Zuttle D. Curious]

*squeals* Stargate

It should also be noted that Alexis said that they were going to have to sacrifice him with reasoning of not having to pay him. Nightshade works for Loftis. Loftis is the one being paid. Logic follows that it is Loftis who is going to be sacrificed. Dunno what they are doing with Nightshade.

[Theosophus Grey]

Good point, but I think we can safely say that Nightshade is being paid richly by someone for the Martian's benefit, that Loftis is the Martian's contact and in it with them (oh what a tangled web we weave, etc), and it's much more fun in any case thinking of Nightshade instead of an NPC like Loftis tied to a slab with a knife over him...  

Besides, that was too good a joke by Alexis not to use it. 

[Cornelius Nightshade]

“And if you think your head hurts NOW, how about this - that the Illuminati, through Loftis, may have arranged for the Martians to get the artifact for their own purposes all along, rather than for a European power as Nightshade was undoubtedly told, so they can rule both planets through them - BWAHAHAHAH!”
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Well, {Oh, first sorry about the miss post in story line instead of ooc}

As for the above, It was of Corse the Illuminati plan all along to control BOTH worlds. What power hungry group of megalomaniacs would pass up a chance like that.

As for Nightshade, I did not consider if he knew the above fact, But putting on my Nightshade hat for a moment. Nightshade would not care if he did know, just as long as he got his slice of the pie. “Two worlds, two slices” So If Nightshade did know, and I think he WOULD have, he still would have done every thing he did. Yes, he is that big of a bastard.
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Attacking the temple,
By now Loftis has all ready gone to the temple as soon as the fighting stopped he would have done that.
So now this little fighting band has to ,, attack and desecrate a Martian shrine, as TENS of THOUSANDS of outraged Martians, what stand around and just,, let you?

It just seems to me that by not going straight after Loftis even with the ” suspension of disbelief ” the chances of stopping the Martians who already have the artifact is,, zero.

BUT, lets say you do pull it off, we now face what would amount to a jihad from outraged Martians united, in their hate for the nations of earth.

So the Illuminati still win,
It just seams to me as the author of this overly complicated little plot that if I were to state the objective in a sentence it would be.

“ Prevent the Martian world from uniting by keeping the artifact from them”

Even if you get the artifact back, you have given them something just as good to unify around “ a cause “.


 
but ok, Ill be patient and see how you manage to unwind this.

[Zuttle D. Curious]

Well I have noticed in this RP we frequently seem to ignore inconvenient facts So we could just pretend that for the next 20 minutes that all the martians are butterflies. That would make everything work. (I really really hope I'm kidding.)

Alright, so assuming we are currently not on the Badger, but currently in the surrounding area around the tents before the ceremony begins. And that we are discussing the plan. It's Grey, Bailey, Voltaire (or Vilhaus rather I do hope I got that last name right, correct me if I am wrong please.) Me, Arguild, and three royal space marines. Thats 8 people... Alright.

I assume Loftis is with the Martians of status to do the ceremony in the temple, along with Nightshade as the sacrifice. (personally I think them using Nightshade as the sacrifice is what would cause real political problems, using an unwilling human sacrifice in a martian ceremony? That would be bad.) Apparently the Relic acts as the 5th key to open this door that will lead to this beasty that I would suggest is shut down after that long around an energy draining meteorite, and they could do something with it (I don't know, take it apart, or flip a switch or something) and it is suddenly under their control. (I can't think of many things they can do with a beasty that would give them lots of control over two worlds.)

In Normalcy, this Ceremony does not include using this key. Why? Because this Ceremony has been held annually for a long long time. They only just now got the key. That means most Martians would likely be unaware this is about to be done. Thats a loophole there that we could take advantage of somehow.

The blade glittered, reflecting the first light it had seen in centuries. Red lines etched along it appeared to move in the half-light.

I'm assuming this is the blade for the sacrifice. As it had not seen light in centuries, I'm guessing that Sacrifice isn't normally part of this annual ceremony. Meaning this would take a lot of Martians by surprise (and if their cultures were ANYTHING like many of Earths... there would probably be some disgust about it.)

Also assuming that the action is either happening outside the temple or in a part of the temple that is mostly open to the mass public so that they can watch the usual ceremony.

So... at least on Earth anyway, if someone walked into my church on Easter and randomly sacrificed someone I would be really freaked out. I'm guessing similar would happen at this annual ceremony that Martians aren't use to a sacrifice happening at. Meaning the leaders might want to hide the sacrifice happening. If it's in secret that is also a loophole we can use.

Is there possibly a double ceremony happening? One inside the temple for the beasty, and one outside out of tradition, for the people to watch?

[Alexis Voltaire]

I would say a double ceremony. also, I think the traditional ceremony is of the binding of the beast, and the ceremony of the Blood Red Moon is something else. It was said that Loftis had discovered the way to successfully perform it, so I was guessing it hadn't been done in a very long time, and wasn't the normal one.

I was thinking along the lines of the sacrifice being a necessary part of the ceremony (symbolic feeding of the beast, or something.) that would be done by the priests in the inner part of the temple, and not in view of everyone else.

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Edit part two : Post has been corrected, I think... hopefully it's been straightened out.

Apologies for not reading the previous two (I only noticed the last one)

[Theosophus Grey]

OK, I obviously logged back in too late to help resolve the Temple issue, I had some thoughts on how that could have gone better for our cause.   

Before we proceed, a question for Nightshade - did the ceremony proceed or not?  Was the key used, releasing the Beast, which was the greater threat we were trying to prevent?  You noted that some of the priests were jailed, but I wasn't clear on how that all fell out. 

[Cornelius Nightshade]

I really did not want this story to end this way, I had hoped that someone would reason out what the true objectives were and act on them. But no one did, I tried nudging and hinting but,,,. So I was left with two choices

One,
Do nothing and sit back as eight people all be it heavily armed, stomped past thirty thousand Martians and did something that none of the thirty thousand Martians wanted them to do. To my mind that was “Sick” and a story destroyer. In my old ADnD days we called it power gamming.
Or
Two, assert what logically should happen in such an event as this story tries to tell.

I picked TWO, for me, the story is everything, I realize that I most likely pissed off many of you, I am sorry.
A good story is one that is a believable one, at least to me.

So I am sorry to the pissed, and If it happens to be that the majority is pissed I will disappear from this thread at your request.

[Cornelius Nightshade]

Beast, ?
Someone, not me, added that with out explanation  I Have no idea what that was about,,I will back read posts to try and find out.
The artifact was a symbol, used to select a new ruling house, {think Excalibur, no sword no king} whoever had the artifact held power.

What was lost is the main objective, “ Keep the relic out of Martian hands” just that.

Maybe I made this to confusing for all of you,, sorry
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[Zuttle D. Curious]

I agree with a believable story. It's the option I would take. I never understood this to be keep it out of Martian hands, I thought it was keep it out of special interest's (I.E. Sub group of the Illuminati.) hands.

And I don't want you to leave. I think you came up with some fantastic plot twists for this RP.

Something went wrong, I may be Naive, but I still think we can fix this.

[Alexis Voltaire]

Agreed with the believable story. I certainly hope you stay, Nightshade, you keep us on out toes here 

As for the weapons being brought with us, I hope that's alright. It's an error on their part, but not too impossible, I think, since the martians have gained so much power that it's near impossible for us to do anything. Sort of a show of force, 'we have defeated you so badly we don't care whether you have them or not.'

although they don't know about the two modified resonance guns on the Badger yet.

[Cornelius Nightshade]

Well yes, the illuminati discovered what the artifact was for, and was trying to, or rather have changed the balance of power on mars. With them with more influence then any earth government, because it was the Illuminati who provided the relic.

Earth has developed such an economic dependence on the settlements of mars and other places too. That influence on mars is also influence on earth

economic blackmail, not unlike ,  oil in our world

[Cornelius Nightshade]

"Something went wrong, I may be Naive, but I still think we can fix this."

I agree I can see plenty of room on mars for adventure, The Great Powers on Earth wont just roll over.
But that is a deep pit if we want to go that direction. That is a story that would take LOTS of game time and rlt too.

We cant undo what happend, to me that looses something in flow. we need to keep moving foward to my mind

[Zuttle D. Curious]

We could start the next chapter from here, Have the Badger on Earth being refitted as a war ship or some such, and send out fliers to let people know we are taking on crew. Then go and free some colonies, or if this story line follows that floating wood thingy, our planet would need more of it. We could go on missions to get more. Or maybe free the MBV from the grasp of the Martians.

[Cornelius Nightshade]

We could start the next chapter from here, Have the Badger on Earth being refitted as a war ship or some such, and send out fliers to let people know we are taking on crew. Then go and free some colonies



I do like that one,, I would think the martians would not attacking anything off mars as yet. The world is large and it takes time to retake all of it.
And their might well be other martian nation states that for their own reasons dont want to be part of this revolt.
The Badger could go back to MBV, or even mars moon?

[Alexis Voltaire]

Deimos sounds good. It's a likely place for those in the resisting nation states to go, since it's somewhat more defensible from the hordes that would descend upon them on Mars.

Perhaps after the Badger takes off, it could be rescued from an 'escorting force' by some of the martians who want to ally with us?

[MWBailey]

"Something went wrong, I may be Naive, but I still think we can fix this."

I agree I can see plenty of room on mars for adventure, The Great Powers on Earth wont just roll over.
But that is a deep pit if we want to go that direction. That is a story that would take LOTS of game time and rlt too.

We cant undo what happend, to me that looses something in flow. we need to keep moving foward to my mind

Um...NOPE

erase what you've written so far, or I'm out.

[MWBailey]

“And if you think your head hurts NOW, how about this - that the Illuminati, through Loftis, may have arranged for the Martians to get the artifact for their own purposes all along, rather than for a European power as Nightshade was undoubtedly told, so they can rule both planets through them - BWAHAHAHAH!”
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Well, {Oh, first sorry about the miss post in story line instead of ooc}

As for the above, It was of Corse the Illuminati plan all along to control BOTH worlds. What power hungry group of megalomaniacs would pass up a chance like that.

As for Nightshade, I did not consider if he knew the above fact, But putting on my Nightshade hat for a moment. Nightshade would not care if he did know, just as long as he got his slice of the pie. “Two worlds, two slices” So If Nightshade did know, and I think he WOULD have, he still would have done every thing he did. Yes, he is that big of a bastard.
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Attacking the temple,
By now Loftis has all ready gone to the temple as soon as the fighting stopped he would have done that.
So now this little fighting band has to ,, attack and desecrate a Martian shrine, as TENS of THOUSANDS of outraged Martians, what stand around and just,, let you?

yup, if we move fast enough and take the flyers on top of the temple back to the Badger, ahead of the Martian horde, which cannot enter the temple because of ritual taboo, and the europeans in with them cannot because the Badger's crew just did what the priests normally do on a slightly larger scale, and one of teh Marine's name is SELDON... sorry, didnt meant o hija k you, but now HAAAVE hijacked this, and I'm not going to just lie down and let you.

[Zuttle D. Curious]

Bailey. Calm down. You aren't the only one who plays this. There are many days where I did pretty much nothing but sit at my computer hitting the refresh button on this RP and playing solitaire.

Second, Even if we managed to get away to the Badger, Nightshade has a point, The Martian people would probably be pretty angry about our stealing the key to their sacred and ancient weapon. So even if we got away, this part of the solar system would still be in really bad shape politically.

I'm also a bit confused, why is there a big problem in skipping ahead?

[MWBailey]

I really did not want this story to end this way, I had hoped that someone would reason out what the true objectives were and act on them. But no one did, I tried nudging and hinting but,,,. So I was left with two choices

One,
Do nothing and sit back as eight people all be it heavily armed, stomped past thirty thousand Martians and did something that none of the thirty thousand Martians wanted them to do. To my mind that was “Sick” and a story destroyer. In my old ADnD days we called it power gamming.
Or
Two, assert what logically should happen in such an event as this story tries to tell.

I picked TWO, for me, the story is everything, I realize that I most likely pissed off many of you, I am sorry.
A good story is one that is a believable one, at least to me.

So I am sorry to the pissed, and If it happens to be that the majority is pissed I will disappear from this thread at your request.

OR THREE you could just work with the rest of us instead of childishly insisting that your outcome is the only one possible.

This is a ROLEPLAY, not a dictatorship. that bit about "we saved frodo and the ring" is what started all this. its not just YOUR decision.

I'm sorry, Zuttle, I'd be perfectly willing to go ahead and skip it if it werent that nightshade has completely refused to accept the idea that reality works exactly the same way as the eight taking the temple and getting away. History is full of such such occurrences, and I for one don't understand why it all has to be boom boom boom, logical and concise all the way with only the action that nightshade wants. He has no right to be pissed, with what he himself has done so far.

This is coming from someone who has similar tantrums all the time, and then comes around and realizes just how ridiculous and childish they were or are. I'm sorry, i realize this is being divisive, but after all this time, of people putting up with my escapades and letting me back in, I don't see why nightshade can't just borrow a page and acquiesce. I'd rather let the mods lock the thread rather than just sit back and allow some prima donna to take over and impose his will alone.

Grey said he had better Ideas as well. why can't he be allowed to post those ideas? why can't we work together instead of... OK. Well, whatever. I'm all shouted out now.

Do whatever you think is best. Nightshade did in fact force this thing into motion, I guess I should just shut up and let him be steer it to wherever. He initiated the force of it while Dan was gone, I guess that makes him DM. Fine, whatever. But please, don't fall into the logic trap.

logically, the badger would not have left earth orbit without being boarded and forced to land as a stolen ship, Major Badger being the owner-master, not nightshade or the company that he represents; nor is it logical that the earth would be so completely overrun in such short order. sorry, but that's even more illogical than eight people taking a temple...

Other perfectly possible outcomes?

1. the eight take and hold the temple till a mediating entity arrives and works out peace between the warring factions
2. the Martians retake the temple but also repudiate the invasion idea as ridiculous and unthinkable, and thus expel both the badger crew and the other europeans until the facts are known.
3. The Badger crew do not take the temple but also do not allow the Power play to take place either.


4. the badger crew are all killed by th eguards, who are much better ayt  defending tghemselves than expected, and the invasion fears are put to rest by a people who are opposed to war, having evolved beyond the need for it, and who allow the europeans to mediate between themselves and come up with a workable peace between not only trhemselves but the martians as well, andthe earth and mars begin a Golden age of peace and understanding. (the invasion fears arising from a total modern-day misinterpretation of the masonic texts AND the martian legendology; the "warring tribes" being allowed by that legendology to do so because of the tenets of said legendology, but only to a certain, non-totalitarian level, in which the martian priests were themselves mistaken as well).

But like I said, whatever. I might be able to follow unhindered, or  be hard-pressed to follow anything coherently for the next week at least, depending on the fallout from this evening.

Assuming I'm not voted out of the RP.

time will tell.