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« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2007, 01:34:09 pm » |
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Playing with colours... ideas in the melting pot, etc. etc. No, not the green. The most excellent Steampunk Forum colours are fitting, together with touches of brass and a splash of subdued red tones. |
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« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2007, 06:06:18 pm » |
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*Sorry, I couldn't find the proper word. Does anyone else speak Dutch? What's the correct translation for 'binnenhof'?
Babelfish offers 'binnenhof' which is not a lot of help, but pretending it's German gives 'within yard'; I think inner plaza is close enough. Possibly atrium? |
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« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2007, 08:10:34 pm » |
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How about a different color scheme for each room/category? Overall consistency to be maintained with typography and overall layout.
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« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2007, 11:48:39 pm » |
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Have you gentle folk bychance taken a look around this site? It calls itself the Zymoglyphic Museum, and apparently showcases the works of quite a number of artisans. They also apparently do have a physical space that they opened to the public in May, for a limited time.
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« Reply #79 on: August 16, 2007, 06:50:19 pm » |
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My vote is to make it look as authentic as possible... so what if a few Colonials think it's real! Just put a tiny disclaimer in somewhere...
*evil grin*
ah yes, fine print very low to the bottom of the page. Possibly even just a link? I think that we can have a disclaimer somewhere fairly unobtrusive, but as long as we're not actually trying to hoodwink money of of people, I think there's no harm in it. For example, the Boilerplate page is one of those that consistantly has people who stumble over it thinking "What, really?" The main problem I can think of about making it look like a real museum site, is that REAL museum sites are generally horribly dull. (I'm sure someone will point out a wonderful one now, just to prove me wrong, but that seems to be the case). Often white background with some horrid side frames in grey or blue, with a thoroughly ignorable area coat-of-arms or district and nowhere near enough photographs to tempt you (and frequently poorly arranged). Examples 1, 2 and 3. Bleh. I'd much prefer a richer style, possibly in black with contrasting text (as in, no horrible faux pas with dark grey writing on a black background) with perhaps a theme of rich red leather tones, or something like that. Basically, too many museums have websites that look clean, white and late 90's! ... (And I would like to have the museum cafeteria menu up there on the site too. Things like that mess with people's heads.) I personally vote for things like boiled cabbage, boiled spinach, liver, and fig pudding to be on the menu. Maybe the design of the site could be somewhat like the "artifacts" within (mildly mismatched and adequately antiqued)? |
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« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2007, 08:45:16 pm » |
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I too would love to help in any way I can.
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« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2007, 11:10:46 pm » |
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 i don't really know.. it's just an idea test to try on for size? |
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« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2007, 12:35:44 am » |
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As a member of the Swedish Association of Museum Curators (archaeologists's trade union) I find this idea highly amusing.
An idea, not sure if it's been mentioned already: Would be fun to have an actual online museum gift shop with typical gift shop items that can be considered a bit steam punk, such as leyden jars, stirling engine kits, novelty goggles for children, moustache wax, various tonics, souvenir mechanical pencils that use a system of bevel gearing to force new lead out (although, someone will have to construct them first I guess).
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« Reply #83 on: November 05, 2007, 12:57:06 am » |
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I do apologize for bringing this topic 'back from the dead', but is the project officially killed off? I've just done a quick search since I've been gone for a few months, but nothing new showed up... Did everyone just lose interest, or did the project move in some other direction?
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« Reply #84 on: November 05, 2007, 01:00:14 am » |
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i think it was simply stuck into the back of everyone's brains for further stewing as noone could think of anything new to say for a while. i'm all for still doing it though.
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« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2007, 01:01:59 am » |
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for most working artists i think its hard enough trying to make enough time in the day to create enough to stay alive, i know from my point of view it would be lovely to put together some kind of highbrow steampunk art community, but this is something that datamancer and i have discussed and may get round to at some point. its just theres never any time!
maybe in a few months. a "real" gallery space may not be possible, but joint exhibition tours could definately be. its just the fact that most of us are so far apart its almost a mission just to find a place to do it.
who knows..
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« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2007, 01:08:27 am » |
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I thought the idea of a virtual museum was a nice compromise though.
Anyways, I was just wondering what happened. All the earlier enthusiasm just seemed to have disappeared at an alarming rate. It's good to hear people are still thinking about the concept though. Aye, who knows what the future will bring for our beloved past that never was, eh?
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« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2007, 04:55:40 am » |
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The museum would also be a great way to get your art out there, and the idea of the gift shop really struck me as a way to get some smaller producible items into the hands of paying visitors and introduce them to living steampunk and then the world changes to fit our thinking and we open a real museum on the remains of the Louve, after bombing it from our War Kites, but I've said to much
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« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2007, 09:41:01 am » |
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Where feasible, it may be interesting to photograph some artifacts from 8-10 evenly spaced views around it, then gif them together to form a rotating view of the artifact. This would give the impression to the visitor that they are/can walk around the object to explore it's detail.
I'm digging the burgundy/brass color scheme idea, maybe with a little more woodgrain?
Gift shop: Fabulous idea, and I'm afraid I would have to purchase it's wares!
Menu: Definately! Air Kracken Calamari!
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Less is NOT more... Ludwig Mies van der Rohe was just a cheapskate!
Back off. I'm doing Science! (Being resized) ^^
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« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2007, 11:59:27 am » |
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i think you forget how much work is involved in making items which are good enough to sell, a gift shop is nice, but there would be very few items and they would all have to be priced accordingly to the amount of work involved in their assemblage. sorry to put a downer on these things but steampunk art isnt easy tp produce to a high quality unless you have a lot of time on your hands (and skill) or its your job, and even then, its difficult to find time to create a lot of items. Youd have to look into mass producing things, and then the whole point of steampunk is lost.
ideas are flowing for an online exhibition for professional steampunk/anachronist artists, and as soon as we have something to show i will let you know x
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« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2007, 12:40:16 pm » |
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That was more tongue-in-cheek, about buying it's wares. ^^; Yes, artifacts as these do take an enormous amount of time; Evident in the craftsmanship and detail. If they were quickly produced, they wouldn't have the same charm.
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« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2007, 12:41:45 pm » |
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Whenever I visit an exhibition's retail opportunity, I usually buy postcards featuring pictures of the exhibits...
or badges...
or teeshirts...
or tote bags...
or mouse mats...
or mugs... (oh, sorry, that's me)
most can be signed by the artist if present...
Thus greatly inflating their inherent value for future generations...
(Now where did I put that Tracy Emmin bedspread...?)
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« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2007, 12:48:15 pm » |
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yup, there're plenty of opportunities for souvenirs in a venture like this... i would especially like to see postcards of the exhibits (much better than 'right click save as') there could even be pre-aged postcards for a higher cost than brand new ones... or a whole cd of images of the entire collection. cataloques are my favourite part of any exhibition, and something that is sorely missed when not available in museums.
artefacts, on the otherhand would be prohibitively expensive for a gift shop- but maybe the exhibits in the museum could be up for sale (at a price the artist themselves would be happy with...)
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« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2007, 02:06:19 pm » |
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It depends on the slant of the gift shop. True, the hugely time-consuming stuff is going to be IN a museum rather than sold in the gift shop. However, most museum gift shops do have a case of wearable artist's smaller works--hand-dyed scarves, jewelry art, etc. So, mightn't there be a place in the gift shop for smaller pieces of the sort that are sold on Etsy? Jewelry, haberdashery, etc.?
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« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2007, 01:22:40 am » |
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Indeed. A small cog, with the name of the museum it originated from on a ribbon hanging from it, would make a wonderful bookmark, and wouldn't be terribly hard to make.
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« Reply #95 on: November 06, 2007, 01:33:21 am » |
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Maybe the cog and ribbon could be like a military medal, to be used as some sort of bottom.
i think that we need more ideas for relatively mass-produceable stuff for the gift shop. It can be simple things, like this cog, or more elaborate, like the ones you can find in the deutsches museum gift shop and likes.
How hard are daguerreotypes to make?
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