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« Reply #225 on: October 05, 2009, 12:24:35 pm » |
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In true American fashion, we should form a non-profit organization and apply for federal funding.  |
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« Reply #226 on: October 05, 2009, 12:40:56 pm » |
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In true American fashion, we should form a non-profit organization and apply for federal funding. But then we wouldn't be allowed to profit! ...though I suppose it's not profit to pay the employees and bills... *ponder* |
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« Reply #227 on: October 06, 2009, 03:33:59 am » |
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Non-profits still have to make enough money to cover expenses (including payroll), and they are allowed to have revenues greater than expenses; they just aren't allowed to remove profits from the organization, eg. in the form of dividends to shareholders. The big advantage to being a nonprofit is greatly reduced taxes.
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« Reply #228 on: October 06, 2009, 04:12:46 am » |
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That kind of puts a crimp in my plans to become fabulously wealthy!
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« Reply #229 on: October 06, 2009, 06:02:06 am » |
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Non-profits still have to make enough money to cover expenses (including payroll), and they are allowed to have revenues greater than expenses; they just aren't allowed to remove profits from the organization, eg. in the form of dividends to shareholders. The big advantage to being a nonprofit is greatly reduced taxes.
But they could, say, give a bonus to the employees (ie, all of us) with extra revenue, right? >.> |
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« Reply #230 on: October 06, 2009, 06:45:42 am » |
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Non-profits still have to make enough money to cover expenses (including payroll), and they are allowed to have revenues greater than expenses; they just aren't allowed to remove profits from the organization, eg. in the form of dividends to shareholders. The big advantage to being a nonprofit is greatly reduced taxes.
But they could, say, give a bonus to the employees (ie, all of us) with extra revenue, right? >.> That's a question you'd have to ask your chartered accountant. |
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« Reply #231 on: October 06, 2009, 11:31:56 pm » |
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Here's an idea:
Why not just start with a steampunk hotel? Find some old, broken down victorian hotel/mansion (or just make a new one in the same style) and then fix it up and add all the quirks and design elements to make it steampunk. You could have a gift shop/bookstore/coffee shop on part of the main floor and/or a restaurant/brewery in the other part.
Once you have that going, you would have a core establishment around which other things could crop up. Folks would have to bring their own money to the table to make it go, but it might very well work.
It seems to me that a commercially based enterprise such as this is a more realistic proposition than a definitely delightful yet ideologically dependent commune.
I think if you start with something small and self-sustaining, a community could build up around that, but starting with something huge and ambitious brings a greater likelihood of failure.
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« Reply #232 on: October 07, 2009, 01:10:45 am » |
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Mr. Bandersnatch, I believe you are a genius. I was actually thinking along very similar lines myself, although I was thinking that beginning with the tea room might be a good idea, as I know it will do wonderfully here in Portland. (We've several tea shops already, and the Crumpet Shop in Seattle is now in, if memory serves, its thirty-third year.)
From there, expanding would not be hard if it succeeded. I strongly, STRONGLY approve of this.
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« Reply #233 on: October 07, 2009, 01:33:37 am » |
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I believe that this is what I was envisioning but failing to articulate. Starting with one cooperative venture such as this with a relatively small starter team, and over time expanding to include other businesses and such if we're able to as the scenario develops.
Including a large sitting room which doubles as a tea room would probably be a good idea, and perhaps a tavern or some such creature 'separate but attached'. Though I think we'll have an adventure on our hands trying to incorporate different aspects of the steampunk aesthetic. Maybe different wings or sections with different 'sub themes'? Scientist's lab, tinker's work shop, neo-victorian...
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« Reply #234 on: October 07, 2009, 01:37:31 am » |
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I would say that starting with the central tea room and sitting room, and off of it building a tinkers' wing, a tailors' wing, and a (mad) scientists' laboratory would be a very wise idea, with each of them being built as they can be afforded and occupied. What say you?
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« Reply #235 on: October 07, 2009, 01:40:53 am » |
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As I'm understanding this, we'd be applying different themes to the decor of the rented rooms, as well as maybe public rooms fitting the theme? (A mad scientist's library with strange 'experiments' set up, for example)
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« Reply #236 on: October 07, 2009, 01:54:16 am » |
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Hey. You. Out of my brain. MY thoughts!
But seriously, yes. You've read my mind.
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« Reply #237 on: October 07, 2009, 02:00:09 am » |
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Hey. You. Out of my brain. MY thoughts!
But seriously, yes. You've read my mind.
But it's so comfortable here! And the decor is so close to home. I'm glad we're on the same wavelength |
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« Reply #238 on: October 07, 2009, 02:35:44 am » |
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A bit late on this topic, ...
but who wouldn't want to live in one?
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« Reply #239 on: October 07, 2009, 04:54:15 am » |
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Mr. Bandersnatch, I believe you are a genius. My most sincere thanks for your high esteem, although I am sure that you are quite generous in your assessment. Maybe different wings or sections with different 'sub themes'? Scientist's lab, tinker's work shop, neo-victorian... I do think this would be a great way to start, and offer a broad sampling to widen the appeal as much as possible. Hearing your musings reminded me of a similar establishment that I've frequented in the past: The Curtis hotel in Denver is a more contemporary example, but it has a separate theme for each floor, providing no end of entertainment for guests, as each stay offers the potential for a new experience. A themed lobby with similarly coordinated rooms would serve quite well to offer varied stimulation without foregoing a basic sense of coherence. |
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« Reply #240 on: October 09, 2009, 03:19:14 pm » |
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you know, I was thinking of opening a steam punk store. Selling gadgets, clothing, and...parts at fairly reasonable prices. Shame the area where I live has such high property taxes and whatnot.
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« Reply #241 on: October 09, 2009, 06:13:25 pm » |
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you know, I was thinking of opening a steam punk store. Selling gadgets, clothing, and...parts at fairly reasonable prices. Shame the area where I live has such high property taxes and whatnot.
Care to run a gift/souvenir shop in our establishment? Or even just close to/associated with. Could be a good thing for both to support each other. |
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« Reply #242 on: October 09, 2009, 07:12:33 pm » |
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*shrugs* sure. I could punch out some brass/copper gears from sheets, hire a tailor to create clothes, make jewlery, ect.
so long as I make enough to support myself, I'd be more then willing to run the local store.
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« Reply #243 on: October 09, 2009, 07:55:55 pm » |
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...hire a tailor to create clothes...
Just another in the list of reasons we need to get those interested together and committed. I'm sure I'm not the only one with multiple interests/ possible fields who could be jostled around to filling the gaps to keep things running smoothly. We just need to find out what roles we NEED, and who can fill them. |
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« Reply #244 on: October 09, 2009, 09:54:27 pm » |
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Hmmm, we're coming to a similar conclusion in the British thread.
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« Reply #245 on: October 09, 2009, 10:30:03 pm » |
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Hmmm, we're coming to a similar conclusion in the British thread.
You mean as far as commitment and role assigning? |
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« Reply #246 on: October 10, 2009, 06:21:01 am » |
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Which, to be honest, is why I'm wanting to get a general phone/in person conference here in Portland as soon as possible.
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« Reply #247 on: October 11, 2009, 05:19:24 am » |
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It may well need to be a phone conference, considering geographical and financial limitations.
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« Reply #248 on: October 11, 2009, 05:42:41 am » |
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This is quite true.
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« Reply #249 on: October 11, 2009, 12:50:10 pm » |
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How about a webinar? Does everyone have a webcam available?
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