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« Reply #125 on: September 25, 2009, 07:23:01 pm » |
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Anyhow, we need to work out ownership rights anyhow. Home ownership could be arranged via the share system mentioned earlier. But at some point there will be a need for various communal buildings. The Inn would be an example, but also simpler buildings, such as a larger workshop, garage or storage facility. Anything that is meant to be used by all inhabitants of the town.. there are matters like ownership of such places (probably the Company), but also how such places will be funded..
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« Reply #126 on: September 25, 2009, 07:24:07 pm » |
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Yeah, I am quoting myself for no other reason than to avoid my lil'house getting lost 
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« Reply #127 on: September 25, 2009, 09:16:03 pm » |
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Yes.  I get to be a part time chimney sweep, part time junk collector in this city, right? Actually I rather think it's what you do with the junk after you've collected it that's more important here  My secret plans on chimney cleaning/evesdropping spiders aside, I was thinking of the "one person's garbage is another person's gold" philosophy. Strolling from rooftop to rooftop all day should give one a good vantage point for seeing what people have left in the alleys and can be salvaged.  After I've scavanged my parts, other people might want to buy the bits I'm not going to use.
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« Reply #128 on: September 25, 2009, 09:53:21 pm » |
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Being old enough to have finished my educational years without the use of a PC or cell phone, I wouldn't miss modern electronics in the least - I often think the world would be far better off if a nice solar flare fried all the contraptions, and people were forced by necessity to (1) learn life skills, (2) talk to each other, and (3) appreciate the simple things like a comfortable bed and a hot meal, and stop whining about petty nonsense. Having said all that, yes, a loft above a workshop sounds eerily like what I was planning for retirement anyway, so why not 'punk it up?  PS - everyone would be required to have a dog or cat, to keep the rats down. 
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« Reply #129 on: September 25, 2009, 11:56:31 pm » |
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Maybe if the inhabitants COULD REMEMBER WHICH BOARD WAS FOR WHAT  Sorry, I know  I'm new I wont mess it up next time
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« Reply #130 on: September 26, 2009, 12:15:30 am » |
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I RE-POSTED THIS TO METAPHYSICAL. SORRY IF I MESSED THINGS UP :/ I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT I'M DOING YET..
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« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2009, 12:41:10 am » |
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Yes.  I get to be a part time chimney sweep, part time junk collector in this city, right? Actually I rather think it's what you do with the junk after you've collected it that's more important here  My secret plans on chimney cleaning/evesdropping spiders aside, I was thinking of the "one person's garbage is another person's gold" philosophy. Strolling from rooftop to rooftop all day should give one a good vantage point for seeing what people have left in the alleys and can be salvaged.  After I've scavanged my parts, other people might want to buy the bits I'm not going to use. Yes but in a community of steampunks... why would such things have been thrown out in the first place?
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« Reply #132 on: September 26, 2009, 01:07:35 am » |
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131 replies in 24 hours! I don't know if anyone keeps records, but, outside of "off-topic" ( which doesn't count) this is rather remarkable! Sadly, my answer would be "no." I do not like cities, even Steampunk cities, and I have too much invested now in the little Barony of Lux to consider relocating. Still, though...Well Done!
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« Reply #133 on: September 26, 2009, 01:09:49 am » |
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I would LOVE to see this happen, but in all reality I probably would not live there. At least not on a full time basis. I'm what you might call comfortably set in my ways. But I'd visit and purchase your wares! Good enough?
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« Reply #134 on: September 26, 2009, 01:16:16 am » |
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I would LOVE to see this happen, but in all reality I probably would not live there. At least not on a full time basis. I'm what you might call comfortably set in my ways. But I'd visit and purchase your wares! Good enough?
Well if we all lived there, we'd likely not get as many customers!  On another thought... would a business such as a B&B, which would require more room for... well... rooms... require, say, a 2 shares, to make a building basically stacking two base buildings connected to one another? I've tossed the basic concept past a friend of mine, and he may be interested in teaming up toward running a B&B, inn, sort of ... thing. ...how were travel accomidations dealt with in the period? For some reason, my mind invokes roughly the same image as a fantasy tavern/inn, with different decor, but that's certainly not based on any historical knowledge... google is yielding only inns named Victorian :/
Check the other thread, I already got dibs on tourist accomodations!  Seriously though, an Inn or B&B could very well be the main source of income for the community. It is also a source of on-site employment - especially important for the non-artisans among us. I don't think any one person should own the Inn. Rather, it ought to be community-owned and operated, as the income generated ought to flow right back into the community. Well, to be honest, I was looking an a position in the Inn/B&B along the lines of cook/maid (depending on how large it is, demand, etc), for precisely the reason that my only "artisan" type skill is in pattern drafting/ steamstress skills, and I suspect there will be others with more skill/experience in that department than I. You can be the manager, and I can be the inn mom? 
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« Reply #135 on: September 26, 2009, 05:04:15 am » |
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I call the Inn's Head Chef position and cite 8 years fine dining background and a culinary degree for Le Cordon Bleu as my claim.  So when can I start? Oh, and can non-steamy spouses come along? Regarding the use of modern conveniences inside private areas, I'd say even that might be off as the blinking light of a TV has a very distinct and distinctly non-period look. Just saying. I don't own an idiot box anyway, and don't miss it in the least... but even the "modern in our homes" thing would have to be considered deeply.
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« Reply #136 on: September 26, 2009, 05:15:25 am » |
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I call the Inn's Head Chef position and cite 8 years fine dining background and a culinary degree for Le Cordon Bleu as my claim.  So when can I start? Oh, and can non-steamy spouses come along? Regarding the use of modern conveniences inside private areas, I'd say even that might be off as the blinking light of a TV has a very distinct and distinctly non-period look. Just saying. I don't own an idiot box anyway, and don't miss it in the least... but even the "modern in our homes" thing would have to be considered deeply. *shakes fist* Fine, I shall bow to your experience. I'll clean. I can be the retired airship engineer who took a maintenance position without realize it was mostly cleaning XD As for TV... I wouldn't miss it. Again, my primary concern with modern conveniences is computer, plumbing, and possibly cellphones. Cellphones have been modded to appear to fit though, sooo, perhaps that won't be so bad.
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« Reply #137 on: September 26, 2009, 05:26:04 am » |
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Nah, I can't run the place myself. I need assistants and underlings and all sorts of kitchen staff if the place is to be any decent size and serve decent food. :-P
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« Reply #138 on: September 26, 2009, 05:42:53 am » |
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So long as the city square had a giant orrery, yes.
Oh and fresh/free biscuits and gravy every other Tuesday.
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« Reply #139 on: September 26, 2009, 05:49:52 am » |
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Nah, I can't run the place myself. I need assistants and underlings and all sorts of kitchen staff if the place is to be any decent size and serve decent food. :-P
Surely you'd need a Sous Chef or the like. Though I'm not sure how big of an establishment the inn or whatever is meant to be...
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« Reply #140 on: September 26, 2009, 08:09:35 am » |
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So long as the city square had a giant orrery, yes.
Oh and fresh/free biscuits and gravy every other Tuesday.
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« Reply #141 on: September 26, 2009, 08:40:00 am » |
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As for the issue of 'modern in your own area', well, I for one would like to have access to the outside world via television, radio, and the internet. And access to these are legally required, at least in the US, for police and fire departments anyway. (Which I would strongly suggest we have available.) And the private areas of the homes... well, change it to 'as long as it's not visible from public areas', and I think it's fine.
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« Reply #142 on: September 26, 2009, 09:37:42 am » |
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Has the issue of climate been considered? I'm sure that inclement weather would change the logistics. Sadly, this issue would likely deter me from moving to such a settlement. I'm just fool enough to enjoy wretched cold weather.  [That and all of my family lives in places with four distinct seasons]
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« Reply #143 on: September 26, 2009, 09:40:07 am » |
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As for the issue of 'modern in your own area', well, I for one would like to have access to the outside world via television, radio, and the internet. And access to these are legally required, at least in the US, for police and fire departments anyway. (Which I would strongly suggest we have available.) And the private areas of the homes... well, change it to 'as long as it's not visible from public areas', and I think it's fine.
Shouldn't be too hard to accommodate restrictions such as these but still have our modern conveniences where we need them  Has the issue of climate been considered? I'm sure that inclement weather would change the logistics. Sadly, this issue would likely deter me from moving to such a settlement. I'm just fool enough to enjoy wretched cold weather.  [That and all of my family lives in places with four distinct seasons] I'm more than happy to give up the climate I'm currently in. I don't think the question has come up... shall we discuss? 
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« Reply #144 on: September 26, 2009, 09:52:17 am » |
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Has the issue of climate been considered? I'm sure that inclement weather would change the logistics. Sadly, this issue would likely deter me from moving to such a settlement. I'm just fool enough to enjoy wretched cold weather.  [That and all of my family lives in places with four distinct seasons] I'm more than happy to give up the climate I'm currently in. I don't think the question has come up... shall we discuss?  Well, I can't say I know anything about construction, but I know a bit about inclement weather, and things quite simply do not function very well in extreme cold. Houses have to be constructed with this kind of thing in mind or they are (if you'll pardon the foul language) a bugger to heat. So for location, you'd probably want to be somewhere with a more temperate climate. Not to mention the fact that most people tend to prefer this anyway. ...now that I start to think this through it all seems a bit obvious. 
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« Reply #145 on: September 26, 2009, 09:55:55 am » |
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Has the issue of climate been considered? I'm sure that inclement weather would change the logistics. Sadly, this issue would likely deter me from moving to such a settlement. I'm just fool enough to enjoy wretched cold weather.  [That and all of my family lives in places with four distinct seasons] I'm more than happy to give up the climate I'm currently in. I don't think the question has come up... shall we discuss?  Well, I can't say I know anything about construction, but I know a bit about inclement weather, and things quite simply do not function very well in extreme cold. Houses have to be constructed with this kind of thing in mind or they are (if you'll pardon the foul language) a bugger to heat. So for location, you'd probably want to be somewhere with a more temperate climate. Not to mention the fact that most people tend to prefer this anyway. ...now that I start to think this through it all seems a bit obvious.  As long as it's somewhere what actually has seasons. I currently live in Florida, where "extreme cold" means 50°F. I do not approve :<
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« Reply #146 on: September 26, 2009, 10:07:53 am » |
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Right well, that would be something to gather a consensus about, basically. I'm not sure how ANYONE can manage to live like that. I live in Minnesota and, to me, 50 degrees is barely long-sleeved-shirt weather. Seeing snow on the ground for the first time each year keeps my sense of wonder alive. 
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« Reply #147 on: September 26, 2009, 10:11:47 am » |
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Snow? That's that "ice" I hear about, falling from the sky, right?
But seriously. How do we survive? Very little clothing, honestly. Florida makes steampunk attire incredibly impractical. This is part of my frustration with my location.
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« Reply #148 on: September 26, 2009, 11:30:17 am » |
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Washington or Oregon gets my vote.. 
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« Reply #149 on: September 26, 2009, 11:34:24 am » |
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Washington or Oregon gets my vote..  I hear that's a good locale. Also, northern California.
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