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Author Topic: Non-steamed steampunk guns  (Read 94121 times)
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« Reply #475 on: May 06, 2012, 09:42:28 am »

I am surprised by how available these little pinfires still are:  http://www.pinfireguns.com/index.php?cPath=52  Apparently they were common watch fobs over a century ago. 




Wait.. is that a sound suppressor in the box next to the gun??
Because that would increase its awesomeness 100x..
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« Reply #476 on: May 06, 2012, 01:30:03 pm »

I am surprised by how available these little pinfires still are:  http://www.pinfireguns.com/index.php?cPath=52  Apparently they were common watch fobs over a century ago. 




Wait.. is that a sound suppressor in the box next to the gun??
Because that would increase its awesomeness 100x..


I believe that is the flare adapter. 
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« Reply #477 on: May 06, 2012, 01:54:50 pm »

I assume you mean its to enable it to fire flares? if so I agree that makes it even more fun  Smiley
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« Reply #478 on: May 06, 2012, 02:01:01 pm »

I assume you mean its to enable it to fire flares? if so I agree that makes it even more fun  Smiley

Yep!   Grin 
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This is a NEW rare wood crate Nickel Berloque with the Flare kit. This comes with the Nickel plated Berloque single shot PTB 222 stamped 2mm pinfire gun with threaded barrel. It also includes the Flare adapter, 10 multicolor Flares, 12 2mm Blanks, Pushrod, and of course the rare wood crate to store it all in.
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« Reply #479 on: May 06, 2012, 08:17:32 pm »

So cute!
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« Reply #480 on: May 11, 2012, 01:43:03 am »

I have decided that my next replica gun shall be the Pepperbox. I really like the look of them.
Does anyone know what sort of holsters they had for them? If at all.
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« Reply #481 on: May 11, 2012, 03:05:54 am »

I have decided that my next replica gun shall be the Pepperbox. I really like the look of them.
Does anyone know what sort of holsters they had for them? If at all.

A coat pocket.   Grin

I have not actually seen a pepper box holster, but I am sure there had to be something of the sort around.  The beautiful thing about steampunk is that you can invent something new.  If you can't find an actual one, take a look at the holsters of its contemporaries such as the early Colts and Remingtons and build from them. 

(right outside the administration office at the Civil War museum is a rusted up pepperbox with a ring trigger dug out of a battlefield) 
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« Reply #482 on: May 12, 2012, 12:54:38 am »

"Russian" Winchester 1895. Before the Mosin the russian imperial army used this leveraction winchester.



Czarist Russia Suplimented their M1891 Mosin Nagant with the Winchester I believe during WWI
They also purchased M1891 rifles made manufactures in the U.S. During that war.....Like most countrys in Europe they were hard pressed to produce enough arms for the war and had to turn to
other sources for war material.
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« Reply #483 on: May 12, 2012, 04:48:28 am »

Some more Civil War gun porn including the pepperbox I mentioned on my last post:
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Sometimes the museum switches out guns and the descriptions don't match or there are no descriptions at all, can anyone identify these carbines?  They are very beefy in both metal and wood when compared to the other long arms.  To me the trigger guards speak of German or Austrian design, but I am not 100% sure. 

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« Reply #484 on: May 12, 2012, 01:53:02 pm »

Need better pics but the bottom two (last pic) look to be larger-caliber converted pieces, like .69's converted to percussion maybe.

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« Reply #485 on: May 12, 2012, 05:30:13 pm »

That last pair could be civilian Jägerstutzen  from southern Germany. They were meant for dangerous game in thick cover, such as bear or boar, and were basically heavy but short rifles in the Bavarian style. The Confederacy imported everything they could get, and you could do a lot worse for a cavalry or artillery carbine.
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« Reply #486 on: May 12, 2012, 10:10:16 pm »

That last pair could be civilian Jägerstutzen  from southern Germany. They were meant for dangerous game in thick cover, such as bear or boar, and were basically heavy but short rifles in the Bavarian style. The Confederacy imported everything they could get, and you could do a lot worse for a cavalry or artillery carbine.

Those are my thoughts as well. 

Need better pics

Wish I could get them, I have an awesome camera, but shooting through glass in a room with a ton of reflection takes its toll on the quality.  I'd like to work in the curating department so I could.  I'd love to examine them up close and personal. 

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« Reply #487 on: May 12, 2012, 10:45:14 pm »

Some more Civil War gun porn including the pepperbox I mentioned on my last post:
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I love the look of this revolver, any idea what it is?

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« Reply #488 on: May 12, 2012, 11:29:58 pm »

That appears to be a Starr double action, a popular .44 sidearm for officers both sides in the Civil War. Check around, there have been good reproduction Starrs on the market.
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« Reply #489 on: May 13, 2012, 02:19:00 am »

It is.

A good closeup view is show in "Unforgiven", where Clint Eastwood, for one scene at least, uses an original Starr to shoot at some cans. It's also on the movie posters.

The shotgun is an original Colt, and the Spencer is an original as well.

That movie made them popular enough again that now they are made in reproductions, much like Quigley Down Under led to a resurgence of Sharps rifles (already being reproduced at that time).
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« Reply #490 on: May 13, 2012, 04:16:46 am »

Star Revolver auction:  http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=286323312

I seem to recall that Deer Creek also sold a reproduction. 

Here is n auction for an engraved pinfire pepperbox:  http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285952760


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« Reply #491 on: May 13, 2012, 06:32:18 am »

Awesome collection of pix!!!

I've just begun work on a steel/copper/brass/timber 5 barreled pepperbox and all of the above is wonderful inspiration,

Thanks!
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« Reply #492 on: May 13, 2012, 02:22:45 pm »

For inspiration on the pepperbox, here is a Dixie kit:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_162_194&products_id=867



Good luck!


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« Reply #493 on: May 13, 2012, 02:38:35 pm »

That last pair could be civilian Jägerstutzen  from southern Germany. They were meant for dangerous game in thick cover, such as bear or boar, and were basically heavy but short rifles in the Bavarian style. The Confederacy imported everything they could get, and you could do a lot worse for a cavalry or artillery carbine.

Those are my thoughts as well.  

Need better pics

I believe I've seen the original flint version of this & was told it was a German-made NAVAL carbine, for use in the fighting tops of sailing ships.  The
one I saw was about .75 caliber & had a rifled barrel.  They both look to be conversions from flint, indeed the bottom one was converted by the "French" method- remove the steel, pan, & spring from the outside of the lock, plug the touch hole & other unused screw holes, braze a bit of metal onto the barrel & drill & thread it for the cone or nipple, & switch to a percussion hammer.  The upper one appears to have been converted by the more common method of altering the lock & adding a drum or bolster through the touch hole- OR it may be a later variant that was always percussion...



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« Reply #494 on: May 13, 2012, 03:40:46 pm »

Another Steampunk firearm. Never seen one of these before.

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9329731



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« Reply #495 on: May 13, 2012, 05:47:16 pm »

Another Steampunk firearm. Never seen one of these before.

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9329731



Chris


This auction gives a much clearer description than I had previously seen for how this revolver operates. 
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« Reply #496 on: May 13, 2012, 10:07:11 pm »



These are Austrian cavalry carbines originally flint lock converted to percussion it is believed some of these were among weapons smuggled by blockade runners to the Confederacy during the Northern war of aggression.

http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=74242

I have seen these listed as model 1842 & 1851....


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« Reply #497 on: May 13, 2012, 10:14:23 pm »



These are Austrian cavalry carbines originally flint lock converted to percussion it is believed some of these were among weapons smuggled by blockade runners to the Confederacy during the Northern war of aggression.

http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=74242

I have seen these listed as model 1842 & 1851....


Not a bad price....they are quite heavy duty looking weapons.  The kind that at close range you really would not want any part of your body to be on the business end of. 
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« Reply #498 on: May 14, 2012, 05:31:53 pm »

They are rifled I wouldn't want to be in the open at 200 to 250 yrds more than likely
they would ruin your day... I have a couple of barrels for these I plan on building something
with them one of these days....
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« Reply #499 on: May 14, 2012, 08:10:40 pm »

Another Steampunk firearm. Never seen one of these before.

Part of an entire obscure class of weaponry - google "transitional percussion revolvers".

They are rifled I wouldn't want to be in the open at 200 to 250 yrds more than likely
they would ruin your day... I have a couple of barrels for these I plan on building something
with them one of these days....

Something I'd been told in passing (apocryphal accounts being what they are), that some of the post-Civil War/War Between The States muskets you see that were cut-down/sawed-off where actually use to launch carrying lines up onto barn roofs (in the same manner as the line-carrying launchers at see - generally with a weighted rod/shaft loaded from the muzzle, launched with a blank).
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