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Captain Lyerly
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« Reply #425 on: February 16, 2012, 02:43:35 am »

The Nagant 1895 is most assuredly Steampunk in nature.  I converted mine to single action (for Cowboy Action Shooting), it is a simple conversion and can be reversed just as easily.

I have a damascus double that I shoot, from about 1902; I use light loads or black powder in it, and it doesn't worry me.  It is a nice piece, though not rare or expensive.  Someone even had the hammers and triggers gold-plated.


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« Reply #426 on: February 16, 2012, 05:17:03 am »

These are both Webley & Scott flare guns





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« Reply #427 on: February 16, 2012, 07:03:05 am »

Those flare guns are great...I made need to build something like for my next handcannon. I think they would be a good match for my .81 caliber cartridge with reduced loads so it doesn't snap your wrist.
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« Reply #428 on: February 16, 2012, 06:08:49 pm »



If the gun was made before 1898 it did not have to be registered it was grandfathered by the fact that it was made before what is considered a modern firearm.... I own a Beretta M1918/30 it is a short barreled semiauto 9mm carbine a grandson of the Villia perosa WWI Smg. because of it's age and collectability it was grandfathered by ATFE. no registration required... of course who is going to rob a liquor store with a $2000.00+ gun? this was more a case of the local ATFE agent not knowing the law or just wanting to add something neat to the collection.

D. Oakes might have been describing a factory-made Howdah pistol (discussed elsewhere in this thread, I think), in which case a sharp lawyer should have argued that it fit the BATFE's C&R Exception list (like the  Ithaca Auto/Burglar).

If the breechloader taking 12 gauge cartridges (even if made before 1898) started it's life as a full-length shotgun and was then cut-down, it's a No-Go unless registered *before conversion* as a Short Barrel Shotgun ($200 tax stamp).
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« Reply #429 on: February 16, 2012, 06:18:48 pm »

Those flare guns ROCK! But the brass truncheon rocks even more!
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« Reply #430 on: February 16, 2012, 09:28:14 pm »

I have a replica Jongen A Liege prop pistol do u happen to know the value or history on it?
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« Reply #431 on: February 16, 2012, 09:51:55 pm »

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If the breechloader taking 12 gauge cartridges (even if made before 1898) started it's life as a full-length shotgun and was then cut-down, it's a No-Go unless registered *before conversion* as a Short Barrel Shotgun ($200 tax stamp).

Which is hilarious to me since if it wasn't cut down and actually started life as a pistol its fine.  I never understand the logic of a system where you can have two weapons that are exactly the same in form and function yet one is illegal and one is not because of how they where made.

Its just like those Rossi mare's leg guns, cut down a lever gun and its illegal, buy a lever action pistol in the same caliber and length and its fine.
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« Reply #432 on: February 16, 2012, 09:58:01 pm »

At what point did the government EVER resort to logic?
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« Reply #433 on: February 16, 2012, 11:54:03 pm »

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If the breechloader taking 12 gauge cartridges (even if made before 1898) started it's life as a full-length shotgun and was then cut-down, it's a No-Go unless registered *before conversion* as a Short Barrel Shotgun ($200 tax stamp).

Which is hilarious to me since if it wasn't cut down and actually started life as a pistol its fine.  I never understand the logic of a system where you can have two weapons that are exactly the same in form and function yet one is illegal and one is not because of how they where made.

Its just like those Rossi mare's leg guns, cut down a lever gun and its illegal, buy a lever action pistol in the same caliber and length and its fine.

The reason this is so is because the law reads you can't make a pistol out of a rifle with out registering it as a Short barrled rifle. but a manufacturer can build rifle type actions registering them as pistols as long as the action has never been built as a rifle it can be built as a pistol.
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« Reply #434 on: February 17, 2012, 07:51:50 am »

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If the breechloader taking 12 gauge cartridges (even if made before 1898) started it's life as a full-length shotgun and was then cut-down, it's a No-Go unless registered *before conversion* as a Short Barrel Shotgun ($200 tax stamp).

Which is hilarious to me since if it wasn't cut down and actually started life as a pistol its fine.  I never understand the logic of a system where you can have two weapons that are exactly the same in form and function yet one is illegal and one is not because of how they where made.

Its just like those Rossi mare's leg guns, cut down a lever gun and its illegal, buy a lever action pistol in the same caliber and length and its fine.

The reason this is so is because the law reads you can't make a pistol out of a rifle with out registering it as a Short barrled rifle. but a manufacturer can build rifle type actions registering them as pistols as long as the action has never been built as a rifle it can be built as a pistol.

That answered a question I've been having about a potential purchase.  (Of course the fiance is begging me to get her something a lot more modern in some really interesting hot pink camouflage scheme.... Grin....I must admit it looks really cool.  I'd post a picture if I could find it and if it was compliant with the rules of the thread.)
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« Reply #435 on: February 17, 2012, 11:20:27 pm »

If someone has a question as to the Federal gun regulations within the U.S.A. feel free to pm me,
I should be able to give you an answer or stear you to a web site that will be able to, also each state has it's own regulations/laws and they are not alway the same state to state or to federal.......
just remember I am not a lawyer nor do I pretend to be but I will try to help those with questions
stay out of trouble with the law.
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« Reply #436 on: February 18, 2012, 12:10:26 am »

I have a replica Jongen A Liege prop pistol do u happen to know the value or history on it?


Is it a single shot or revolver? details and indeed a picture would greatly assist.

Check Finnlock's post halfway down here btw.

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16489.250
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« Reply #437 on: February 18, 2012, 05:45:12 am »

These are both Webley & Scott flare guns






I love those brass webleys!! I passed up on one going cheap a few years back and have always regretted it  Embarrassed
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« Reply #438 on: February 18, 2012, 10:57:29 pm »

Jezails. Accept no substitutes or  disagreements.


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« Reply #439 on: February 20, 2012, 04:03:35 am »

Jezails. Accept no substitutes or  disagreements.





This thread keeps reminding me of sad stories from my days a collector and seller.   :'(

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« Reply #440 on: February 20, 2012, 04:20:29 am »

Sad, but hopefully he'll realize the value of what he's got.
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« Reply #441 on: February 22, 2012, 01:42:54 am »

Take a look at this monstrosity. 48 shot revolver (If you could hold it up). Tongue
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« Reply #442 on: February 22, 2012, 02:25:20 am »

Fantastic gun but WAY beyond NUTS!
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« Reply #443 on: February 22, 2012, 03:38:15 am »

Take a look at this monstrosity. 48 shot revolver (If you could hold it up). Tongue



The brass shield is there so you can hold onto the barrel by the brass bit in front of the shield...
Being percussion I cringe at the thought of a chainfire.......
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« Reply #444 on: February 23, 2012, 08:46:05 am »

Take a look at this monstrosity. 48 shot revolver (If you could hold it up). Tongue



Sweet mother of God!!!
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« Reply #445 on: February 23, 2012, 09:50:09 am »

Take a look at this monstrosity. 48 shot revolver (If you could hold it up). Tongue



All right mate. Show me the holster.
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« Reply #446 on: February 23, 2012, 11:21:44 am »

Take a look at this monstrosity. 48 shot revolver (If you could hold it up). Tongue



All right mate. Show me the holster.


I think we just stumbled on the reason for introducing open-carry laws in certain states.. Grin
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« Reply #447 on: February 23, 2012, 09:55:19 pm »

Do you get a free child as a mobile rest when you buy one?
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« Reply #448 on: February 24, 2012, 03:40:09 am »

Indeed.  A chain-fire could leave one...









Wait for it!










Short-handed?



 Grin


Chas.
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« Reply #449 on: February 27, 2012, 06:51:52 pm »

I've seen some interesting ideas for increased shot capacity, but I think that takes the cake.  Cheesy



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