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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2009, 07:18:11 am »

And earlier today I had a thought (dangerous, I know).  If a marine is a combatant who travels places on a waterborne craft, what would a combatant from an airship be called?  Now I don't mean standard ships security, I mean elite troopers used for boarding actions and establishing "land-heads".

Avian?
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 07:59:46 am »

And earlier today I had a thought (dangerous, I know).  If a marine is a combatant who travels places on a waterborne craft, what would a combatant from an airship be called?  Now I don't mean standard ships security, I mean elite troopers used for boarding actions and establishing "land-heads".

Avian?
I like it. "Bugger it all, they've got Avian's onboard! Get us out of here!
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2009, 08:13:46 am »

Maybe, Audiotorian for someone who makes steampunk music?
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2009, 08:21:32 am »

Just a thought that my husband and I were discussing one day but I thought it might fit in here.

Steamacrit - one who complains about non working gears being used while coating a Nerf gun with paint and calling it a raygun.

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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2009, 08:22:58 am »

Just a thought that my husband and I were discussing one day but I thought it might fit in here.

Steamacrit - one who complains about non working gears being used while coating a Nerf gun with paint and calling it a raygun.

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2009, 08:51:21 am »

I still think a Marine on an airship is still a Marine. You can apply a number of prefixes to make it specific, such as:

Aerial Marine
Airship Marine
etc.
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2009, 10:46:29 am »

Steamacrit! Superb, it's in.

Gizmologist. Well were certainly have several of them here and very helpful they are too so we need a title we can confer on them as a mark of respect/thanks.

Audiotorian. Well that makes perfect sense in relation to scriptorian.

Marines are technically "of the sea" so I can see why we could do with an alternative word.  The converse argument is we talk of airships so marines make sense. They are also the traditional fodder in science fiction.  I like the idea of "avians" and the use of it in the example is great.  My doubts with that one are around "avian-flu".  Are their main weapons pneumonia viruses?  Please shout me down on this, it's a community lexicon so I'll include what the community demands.

On the subject of bestowing titles I was wondering if we could "officially" name people as "contraptors" and "textilier"?  What about creating the "Royal Institute of Contraptors" and the "Guild of Master/Mistress Textilier"?  This could be done by naming people in a poll and exhibiting photographs of their work.  If a set number of the community vote in favour for their acceptance (say 50 or 100?) then they can use the initials "RIC" or "GMT" after their names as a badge of honour.  In this way we can recognise some of the beautiful work that is being done.  Just an idea.

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 03:42:55 pm »

A new addition lifted from another thread and a particularly golden addition I feel. (Made me chortle!)

steamchav - stee-m-chav - noun. A person who adopts commercially available and labelled garments and accessories on the grounds they are respected by other steamchavs rather than any inherent aesthetic or ideological value.
Also, steamchavvy - stee-m-chav-vee adj. Applied to describe mainstream, sellout articles or goods valued for their provenence and social acceptibility rather than their actual merit.

Any more?
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2009, 06:04:43 pm »

A new addition lifted from another thread and a particularly golden addition I feel. (Made me chortle!)

steamchav - stee-m-chav - noun. A person who adopts commercially available and labelled garments and accessories on the grounds they are respected by other steamchavs rather than any inherent aesthetic or ideological value.
Also, steamchavvy - stee-m-chav-vee adj. Applied to describe mainstream, sellout articles or goods valued for their provenence and social acceptibility rather than their actual merit.

Any more?


Did you read the good/bad ones I posted on the previous page?
And do steamchavs fly burberry zeppelins?
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2009, 06:23:28 pm »

Good day to you Matthias,

I'm sorry not to have picked up on your previous post.

Marvellificent is indeed a fine word but it doesn't quite fit the bill in what  I am searching for.  If you think about cultural changes certain words appear that seem to epitomise what is going on.  For British culture in the last few decades I am thinking about the words good/fab/cool/wicked/bad  and bad/cr*p/rubbish/gay (no political comment intended just commenting on the idiom). We need a short and punchy word that does it in these categories.  It does seem that "steamy" is being used in this context already by the way.

Moriartious has a fine etymological pedigree and I am quite happy to put it in but with the meaning "evil or villainous".  Comments are of course invited.

The airship variants I think should be almost classes of ship much as we might use dreadnought or destroyer (which were originally motor torpedo boat destroyers by the way).

Technical terms are already around aplenty and for many people here totally unintelligible. Whilst thrunge plate is great as that mythical bit that always goes wrong I think it would be too easy to fill a list with technicals.

Clodhopper is already in use in UK English so can't add that one.

As a self appointed keeper of the list I feel I should now shut up and listen to your comments.

Tinker

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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2009, 06:39:03 pm »

Clodhopper is already in use? I've never heard it used - which makes for a fairly bizzare coincidence. Or, more likely, I heard it and forgot.
As for the other terms, I feel we should just throw in as many as possible and see what we can come up with. Are you treating this thread as a thinktank or a final copy?*
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2009, 06:56:53 pm »

It is a work in progress as far as I am concerned and I do keep updating the list at the start of the thread as suggested earlier.

clodhopper noun (informal)
1 [usually pl.] a large heavy shoe
2 (disapproving) an awkward or clumsy person

(Oxford English Dictionary)


This is a personal opinion - if we have real gems of words that grab the imagination then they have a chance of being used. Also if they are specifically relevant to the discussions going on here this adds to the value.  The terms for types of people and their work are relevant to the community with discussion about the different things people do and comments on different styles of things. They therefore have a chance of being used. Steamchav appeared "in use" so therefore had to be included.

Marvellificent - the easy way to incorporate it is to post it a few times in response to people posting pictures of kit etc. As it gets used it becomes part of the language.

I think the trick is to read the threads, see what subjects are topical and where there is the need for a term or concept. Then create a word for that.

Well I am off to work on my "Burberry detecting anti aerial vehicle rocket", can't let those blasted steamchavs get away in their moriartious machines. Wink
I'm not sure if I'm being clear?  Can't seem to find the right words Roll Eyes

Perhaps it is wrong to try and invent words (unless we are writing a novel or script) but could simply collate words as they appear
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2009, 07:54:36 pm »

True, true; I shall cease for now, and see what comes up. I was'nt thinking you should use all of my words by the way, I was just throwing some into the mix.
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2009, 08:16:16 pm »

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numpty - num-p-tee noun. A fool or clumsy oaf. Also numptified - num-p-tee-fi-d adj. Where an object has taken on numpty characteristics.

While I'll grant you numptyified is great creation I was a bit surprised to see numpty in there...it's just a common word for me, and most Scots I'm sure. Grin
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2009, 08:27:59 pm »

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numpty - num-p-tee noun. A fool or clumsy oaf. Also numptified - num-p-tee-fi-d adj. Where an object has taken on numpty characteristics.

While I'll grant you numptyified is great creation I was a bit surprised to see numpty in there...it's just a common word for me, and most Scots I'm sure. Grin

And some non-Scots too - the beloved uses it and I don't think he picked it up from me.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2009, 08:43:20 pm »

Numpty seems to be well known to most of us over here in the UK (It is certainly common parlance in our family but with a family name of Shaw I cannot gainsay the possibility of it being of Scottish origin.)

Numptified seemed perfect to explain why some machines don't do what you expect and when including it we needed to explain the term for our colonial cousins. 

Its inclusion and definition were more for their benefit.

Thank you for the input though.  Got any more for us?
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« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2009, 12:44:28 pm »

A new word courtesy of El Shogotho.

cogling - cog-ling - noun. A steam punk child. Also a term of endearment e.g. "there, there my little cogling."

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« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2009, 03:37:58 pm »

OK, we were discussing steampunk exclamations, both derogatory and complimentary.

Good things:

Oil(ed): Efficient, of well maintained construction, or attractive.
As in "look at those pistons go - that engine is oiled!" or "see those goggles? Wow, they're, like, oil, dude!"

Stoked: Exciting, fulfilling or very attractive, like a well-stoked firebox.
As in "look at that young lady's ankles - she's so hot, she's stoked!".
Stoking: Of a stoked nature - "that gurney must be moving at 25 miles-per-hour - that's stoking fast!"
See also: Stoking (v, vulg.): "I'd like to give that new boiler engineer a good stoking!"

Newced: Noo-kd (abbr. from Newcomenned, from Thomas Newcomen) Original, ground breaking or a generally positive thing, as in "putting the condenser there is such a newced idea!" or "hey, I've got a newced plan for making this traction engine even more oiled"

Bad things:

Rust(ed): Broken, inefficient, or otherwise in bad shape.
As in "listen to those bearings grinding - they're totally rusted" or "see those shellacked goggles? Wow, they're, like, rust, man..."

Fressed: (abbr. from "Fresnelled") Distorted, out of focus or difficult to discern.
As in "I've drunk so much absinthe, I'm fressed" or "the lenses in those goggles have been hit with so much swarf, they're fressed."

Homey: Mysterious or unexplainable event (from Daniel Douglas Home, the first psychic, whose activities were never really fully explained away as hoaxes). As in "somehow, she's getting an extra 50psi in that cylinder - that's homey" or "I put it all back together, and it works perfectly, but I have this cog left over... homey, man, really homey..."

General Exclamations:

Tez (n): Exclamation (abbr. from Tesla). Generic steampunk interdiction, as in "Tez, I'd like to give that oiled new boiler engineer a good stoking!" or "Oh my Tez, that rusting boiler's gonna blow!"
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« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2009, 03:51:42 pm »

Dr you are a genius.  Those fit in perfectly. 

Does any one have any objections?

(Good to see you last night BTW)
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« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2009, 04:05:01 pm »

Are we doing expressions as well? Like "Don't light your firebox before filling your boiler"?
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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2009, 07:43:11 pm »

I like congeniator so duly added to the lexicon

congeniator - noun. A diplomat who specialises in being good company.

I would also like to encourage the use of the word erzatz. During World War 2 this was a term within the German forces used to describe alternatives to real items e.g. coffee or leather produced due to supply problems.  Traders and producers could use this term in advertisements etc to be honest about their products.

For example "some erzatz materials" or "erzatz leather aviator's helmet".

So may I offer for the lexicon:

erzatz - adjective. Describes a "replacement" material used as an alternative to a true SP material. For example, leatherette, plastics (as opposed to bakelite) etc.



It's ersatz, only one z in it. Great idea, all in all.
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« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2009, 07:44:09 pm »

I like cogling but that might be because we try to include our little one in our adventures. It's always fun to make wee little outfits. She'll either grow up loving this stuff or pretend she doesn't know us.

I agree that Doctor When's examples do fit perfectly.
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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2009, 12:47:20 am »

Holmesian – given to logical deduction and mastery of the criminal mind

Supercumulist – one who soars above the clouds (also supercumulatorian)

Teslafied  – highly charged, inventive

Vaporific – steamified

I prefer auditorian to audiotorian.

Let's put all definitions into the Encyclopedia Ætherica.
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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2009, 01:49:51 am »

OK, we were discussing steampunk exclamations, both derogatory and complimentary.

[...]
Fressed: (abbr. from "Fresnelled") Distorted, out of focus or difficult to discern.
As in "I've drunk so much absinthe, I'm fressed" or "the lenses in those goggles have been hit with so much swarf, they're fressed."
[...]

Of course, Fresnel is pronounced "fray-nell" (being French, and all), so after an absinthe binge, would you actually feel "frayed?"
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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2009, 07:40:29 am »

Hehe...

The verb "To Edison"

"To steal the ideas of another"

Mike totally Edisonned my idea for a flying lifeboat!

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Subcadic - Someone with bad behavior, even less than a cad

Pseudoversist - Someone who makes Steampunk video games

Kinetographer - Someone who makes Steampunk films

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