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« Reply #125 on: January 13, 2009, 07:29:15 am » |
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Thou shalt not use a wrench to drive nails, save in the direst of emergencies, for in so doing thou dost imperil thy wrench, thy nail, thy workpiece and various of thy bodily appendages.
Unless thou hast an interesting enough collection of tools to have one of those wrenches with a hammer face. Even then, better to use a hammer for most of thine nails. -Kit Oddly enough, we have two pair of fencing pliers with a hammer face and a claw pein. |
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« Reply #126 on: January 13, 2009, 04:57:50 pm » |
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In Thine Work Shoppe- Thou shall have a wooden plank mounted vertically at the bottom of your work tables (at the floor)
because you WILL drop small, valuble and expensive parts that would end up underneath the tables
and never be seen again.
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« Reply #127 on: January 13, 2009, 05:09:11 pm » |
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Thou shalt not touch the Baron's stock of Mountain Dew or thou shalt have the very firmament pulled down upon thine head. In Thine Work Shoppe- Thou shall have a wooden plank mounted vertically at the bottom of your work tables (at the floor)
because you WILL drop small, valuble and expensive parts that would end up underneath the tables
and never be seen again.
This is referred to as 'Hitting the floor and bouncing off at a right angle to reality' which is where most of the little fiddly bits I drop wind up. |
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« Reply #128 on: January 13, 2009, 11:21:55 pm » |
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Thou shalt not use a wrench to drive nails, save in the direst of emergencies, for in so doing thou dost imperil thy wrench, thy nail, thy workpiece and various of thy bodily appendages.
Unless thou hast an interesting enough collection of tools to have one of those wrenches with a hammer face. Even then, better to use a hammer for most of thine nails. -Kit Oddly enough, we have two pair of fencing pliers with a hammer face and a claw pein. That's what those are called! Thank you, we've got a pair of those somewhere around here. -Kit |
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von Corax
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« Reply #129 on: January 14, 2009, 03:05:14 am » |
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Oddly enough, we have two pair of fencing pliers with a hammer face and a claw pein.
That's what those are called! Thank you, we've got a pair of those somewhere around here. -Kit Indeed. If they're the same tool, they're deucedly useful! The single claw is for pulling fence staples out of posts, while the face is for driving them in. The main jaws are so deeply convoluted as to appear useless to one unfamiliar with the tool, but they are perfect for holding both legs of a fence staple steady while it is struck (which keeps one's fingers well clear of the impact.) As well, the kraken-beak shape of the jaw tips is designed for twisting tie-wires. They have a secondary set of serrated-flat jaws at the base of the handles which can grip a fence wire like a bulldog for stretching, and there are not less than four sets of wire-shears about the circumference of the hinge. For being a highly-specialized tool, they're exceedingly versatile! (In fact, it had not registered with me just how versatile they are until I began writing this.) We have one pair which I believe belonged to my Grandfather, and perhaps to his father. The other pair, which are not more than 20 years old, are identical save for the rubber-dipped handles. Alas, I have no camera, or I would post images for all to marvel over. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled discussion topic. Thou shalt not lay thy fencing tools upon the ground, lest they be consumed and swallowed up by the grass which grows thereon. Further, thou shalt count and inventory thy tools each and every time thou intendst to move thy conveyance to another section of fence. |
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« Reply #130 on: January 14, 2009, 05:07:33 am » |
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Wonderful! Since you seem to have a collection of interesting tools related to fencing, I must wonder if this one odd pair of pliers I've seen (And want) are in a similar vein. They were locking pliers, and also had a screw mechanism along one handle designed so that you could lock the pliers to two or more wires, then hold the back end of it, and pump the mechanism to make the pliers spin, twisting the wires together beautifully.
-Kit
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Thorinis
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« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2009, 05:20:42 am » |
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Thou must keep in mind that shouting or swearing when thou is faced with difficulty will not get the job done quicker.
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« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2009, 05:33:45 am » |
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Wonderful! Since you seem to have a collection of interesting tools related to fencing, I must wonder if this one odd pair of pliers I've seen (And want) are in a similar vein. They were locking pliers, and also had a screw mechanism along one handle designed so that you could lock the pliers to two or more wires, then hold the back end of it, and pump the mechanism to make the pliers spin, twisting the wires together beautifully.
-Kit
Unless the "pump" mechanism was very heavily geared, I don't think you would twist fencing wire that easily (I could be wrong). I have seen similar pliers for twisting coated wire for electrical applications. |
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« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2009, 07:21:17 am » |
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Hm, well, the mechanism was halfway strong. The fellow who owned them was using it to twist together fairly thick steel wire for the purposes of reinforcement in his demolition derby car. Nifty way he did it, used the tension to tie the whole trunk area together, then hammered in just behind the rear window so that if hit, the whole thing tended to bend upward without screwing with the wheels.
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von Corax
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« Reply #134 on: January 14, 2009, 08:25:09 am » |
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I know the tool you mean, although we don't have one. It's used to twist tie-wires, which are short (~6") lengths of heavy, usually black-iron wire used to attach the fence to steel fenceposts. It would be useful for installing fencing, but for simple maintenance we make do with the aforementioned kraken-beak fencing pliers.
I know I've seen them in a catalog or flyer recently, most likely Princess Auto or TSC. Unfortunately, TSC's web site is virtually useless, and Princess' current catalog doesn't show that tool (although it does list the fencing pliers for CDN$11.99.)
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« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2009, 08:58:27 am » |
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Thanks for giving me an idea of where to look, vaguely! Also for letting me know what they're for.
-Kit
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von Corax
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« Reply #136 on: January 15, 2009, 08:12:25 am » |
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« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2009, 04:40:57 pm » |
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Thou shalt not use a hammer as a temporary screwdriver.
...or vice versa. |
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« Reply #138 on: January 15, 2009, 11:11:40 pm » |
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Thou shalt not use a hammer as a temporary screwdriver.
...or vice versa. Furthermore, thou shalt not pry with thine screwdrivers. -Kit |
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Thorinis
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« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2009, 02:26:25 am » |
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Thou shall leave the left handed scissors out where right handed people can find them and wonder what warping of reality caused it. Thou shalt not get upset when all you can find to work with most of life is right handed tools.  |
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« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2009, 03:43:07 am » |
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Thou shalt not get upset when all you can find to work with most of life is right handed tools. Thou shalt use as many ambidextrous tools as thou canst find, for verily it is better to make do than to whine. Thou shalt whine anyway, because every tenth person will be in the same boat, and shall commiserate. Yes, I am that tenth person. |
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« Reply #141 on: January 16, 2009, 05:04:26 am » |
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Left handed scissors? I have never had the luxury of using a pair of those. I have grown to accept the "normal" scissors biting into the back of my thumb while I cut and contorting my hand in such a way as to make sure that the blades keep their pressure on one another.
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Herr Döktor
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« Reply #142 on: January 16, 2009, 07:13:07 pm » |
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Thou shalt not be left scarred by being forced to be right handed by fascist teachers, thou shalt instead reap the benifits of being ambidextrous.
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Thorinis
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« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2009, 05:21:21 am » |
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Thou shalt not forget what one was going to type about as one is about to type it.
Thou shalt not get distracted by a significant other who is strutting Nude through the house while trying to properly align highly sensitive equipment for highly sensitive experiments.
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« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2009, 11:55:58 am » |
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Thou shalt not forget what one was going to type about as one is about to type it.
Thou shalt not get distracted by a significant other who is strutting Nude through the house while trying to properly align highly sensitive equipment for highly sensitive experiments.
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« Reply #145 on: January 17, 2009, 07:19:43 pm » |
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Wonderful! Since you seem to have a collection of interesting tools related to fencing, I must wonder if this one odd pair of pliers I've seen (And want) are in a similar vein. They were locking pliers, and also had a screw mechanism along one handle designed so that you could lock the pliers to two or more wires, then hold the back end of it, and pump the mechanism to make the pliers spin, twisting the wires together beautifully.
-Kit
Those same pliers are also used by NHRA and NASCAR teams to safety wire bolts so the don't fall off and cause track accidents. Massively useful - drill a hole sideways through the bolt head and wire off to frame gussets. john |
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« Reply #146 on: January 18, 2009, 03:01:27 am » |
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They drill through the bolt head? That seems like it would compromise the structural integrity of a bolt....
-Kit
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« Reply #147 on: January 18, 2009, 03:55:16 am » |
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It was not to be taken in that terms I assure you, though looking at it again I can see the mistaken intent. As for the Experiment I have nothing started yet.
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« Reply #149 on: January 18, 2009, 06:25:33 am » |
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That's pretty neat, thank you!
-Kit
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