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Author Topic: Steamy non-firearm weaponry  (Read 39485 times)
T.Taylor the Third
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« Reply #250 on: January 23, 2009, 03:34:23 am »

its like a  two headed sheep
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« Reply #251 on: January 23, 2009, 04:08:10 am »

It's a fractal wrench.

And I like DRB too. Wink
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« Reply #252 on: January 23, 2009, 07:27:56 pm »

latest find on the Ætherwebs.

Some kind of engineers throwing star?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


[Update]
I hear that it's a welders spanner, welders put them together so that they have just one tool for all the gas tanks and things (info from a friend who's father was a welder)
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« Reply #253 on: January 25, 2009, 08:05:42 am »

I could be mistaken, but the writing on the main wrench looks Russian to me.
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« Reply #254 on: January 25, 2009, 09:24:49 am »

It certainly does.
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« Reply #255 on: January 25, 2009, 02:55:45 pm »

Would also explain the .ru suffix on the URL in the pic...

Probably belongs to the old soviet space program or somesuch.
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« Reply #256 on: January 25, 2009, 07:14:41 pm »

Reading through all this I recalled a weapon from the very cyberpunk anime Battle Angel Alita, regretably I was unable to find an image. The weapon was a rocket driven hammer. Something like that could be easily steamed. As well, being a hammer, it retains it's utilitarian intent.
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« Reply #257 on: January 25, 2009, 07:27:15 pm »

I could be mistaken, but the writing on the main wrench looks Russian to me.

Is that just the Vodka talking?

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« Reply #258 on: January 26, 2009, 06:20:28 am »

I could be mistaken, but the writing on the main wrench looks Russian to me.

Is that just the Vodka talking?


Not likely.
I don't speak Russian, so I wouldn't know even if it was.
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« Reply #259 on: January 27, 2009, 02:48:27 am »

That wrench does sort remind me of a hunga-munga, a West African throwing weapon forged in one piece with blades and hooks at various angles for game hunting. Buffy fans may remember her holding one in the opening credits for a while.
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« Reply #260 on: January 27, 2009, 08:12:35 am »

I am considering maybe trying a set of tools that can double as weapons...
Any other ideas?  My creativity has hit a block in this.


Hey Cap'n.
I can't get the cutlass or a machete into the bars...  I do prefer edged weapons myself.
Yah, have the cane sword but it's more sword than cane. So now I have canes and am seeking a local sensi who will read Cunningham and instruct. Most of the "cane arts" I've found deal with more specific designs of "sticks" most of which do not work as walking sticks...

Cunningham was mentioned earlier in this tread, but here he is again from 1912:
http://ad1542.tripod.com/cunningham.pdf

He makes some good points about some aspects of the cane versus a blade, such as being able to grab both ends in a Double Guard...
A cane for defence has finger grooves cut into the shaft near the bottom... There are pros and cons to straight versus a crook.

I don't *need* a cane myself, but carrying one around as an exercise in "social engineering" has been interesting... The way ppl are more accomodating on the sidewalks... the way car drivers actually slow down and don't honk at you? (Usually they try and avoid you by swerving w/out dropping their yell phones?) Seems there is some unwritten rule that it's especially bad to wack the disabled?)

Small children and little old ladies offer up their seats on the public conveyances?  Pretty fun! 

I stole the cane I have now off one little old lady, so it's a tad short for me but serves well as swaggerstick and for practice.

Thing is, the cane also tucks in my belt w/tip peaking out from under my long coat, which looks very swordie...  The knob/cane top "hooks" into my belt but can be drawn w/just a tug...

The problem with any weapon is that it can be taken away from you and used against you. And nothing is going to be safe or very useful w/out proper training, if you are contemplating using *anything* as a weapon...

I assume no self-respecting SP would be seen with any of the lameooo sticks that most seniors use these daze. Often aluminum and plain w/zero decoration. Odd when ppl spend time on their appearance otherwise. The cane sword has a gold (Chinese-style) dragon as a handle and is v.cool looking...

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« Reply #261 on: January 27, 2009, 01:59:22 pm »

I got my cane from www.canemasters.com and according to their site, one of their customers that had a cane with the finger grooves near the bottom and had a more diamond shaped cross section than round got himself tagged by the TSA at the airport for it.
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« Reply #262 on: January 27, 2009, 09:07:59 pm »

An aquaintance of mine who is quite experienced in the subject of improvised weapons has an article on his website about canes as self-defense tools.

http://www.donrearic.com/cane1.html

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« Reply #263 on: January 28, 2009, 03:38:08 pm »

For any UK-based wannabe cane-masters, you could do worse than try out the Self Defence for Discerning Ladies & Gentlemen experience day (http://www.suspensionofdisbelief.co.uk/experience-days/self-defence-for-discerning-ladies-and-gentlemen) offered at The Grange.

Full disclosure: I am slightly biased in that I am an old mate of the guy who runs the place, and I feature in the lovely YouTube video on the linked page above... but it was still a jolly splendid day!
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« Reply #264 on: February 01, 2009, 04:59:08 pm »

How about long bows and specialized crossbows?
-Maybe with modified tips for use against the gas envelopes of airships?

I was just reading about the Royal Company of Archers which is still the Sovereign's Bodyguard in Scotland, a role it has performed since 1822 and the reign of King George IV, when the company provided a personal bodyguard to the King on his visit to Scotland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Company_of_Archers
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« Reply #265 on: February 01, 2009, 05:29:55 pm »

Speaking of bows, I am seriously considering acquiring this beauty for summertime fun. A 40 to 50lbs draw weight should be great on this bow.
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« Reply #266 on: February 01, 2009, 09:54:37 pm »

The cosh (page down a bit here):
http://www.frayedknotarts.com/antiques.html

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« Reply #267 on: March 19, 2009, 10:26:59 pm »

Speaking of bows, I am seriously considering acquiring this beauty for summertime fun. A 40 to 50lbs draw weight should be great on this bow.

have you ever been hit with a 50 lb. bow? its no fun at all. i once knew someone with a mini crossbow and he took me by surprise with it. luckily for me he took the tip off the bolt so it just left a hell of a welt for a month or two. so to me it doesnt exactly seem like reasonable weapon to carry for role-play or whatever the intended purpose was.


p.s. it seems like u.k. weapons laws are much more strict than those in the u.s. maybe we should follow your example.
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« Reply #268 on: March 19, 2009, 10:37:39 pm »

Speaking of bows, I am seriously considering acquiring this beauty for summertime fun. A 40 to 50lbs draw weight should be great on this bow.

have you ever been hit with a 50 lb. bow? its no fun at all. i once knew someone with a mini crossbow and he took me by surprise with it. luckily for me he took the tip off the bolt so it just left a hell of a welt for a month or two. so to me it doesnt exactly seem like reasonable weapon to carry for role-play or whatever the intended purpose was.


p.s. it seems like u.k. weapons laws are much more strict than those in the u.s. maybe we should follow your example.


Used to hold an archary instructors qualification and the lb's is only at a certain draw length. I have a 37lb draw longbow myself, yet because i have long arms (i'm like a monkey man  Grin ) i draw to nearly a 50lb pull! i believe that the weight is only for 26inches draw and i pull nearly 30inch!

Oh and 40lb pull will cause serious damage if it hits someone and might even kill them! look for a low lb'age, under 30lb, and look for foam tiped arrows on re-enactment websites!
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« Reply #269 on: March 19, 2009, 11:06:05 pm »

...why on Earth would you go about firing at people anyhow?? I'm not into any of that LARp stuff, and if I were, I wouldn't even be looking at real archery equipment, lol.. Grin
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« Reply #270 on: March 19, 2009, 11:19:13 pm »

SCA uses archers too.
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« Reply #271 on: March 22, 2009, 03:42:54 pm »

Swordsticks are nice but very illegal in the UK, whereas my Nunchuk cane is just lawful, as you have to break the full fuctional cane down and reassemble them into Nunchuks takes about 15 secondswalking around openly with Nunchuks outside of a csde or bag will get you arrested, as a functional cane you can stroll around without a case or bag.
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« Reply #272 on: March 22, 2009, 08:18:26 pm »

didn't do too much dagame

No, no, no dagame, I'm fnie, no emermengy room...*clunk*  Grin

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« Reply #273 on: March 22, 2009, 09:57:03 pm »

well, certainly a lot of things covered here.
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned  blackjack. 
easy to make with some leather and ball bearing (or almost anything inside, but I lik eball bearings)

for costume, I like the idea of foam based giant renches, as they would not weigh too much.

as a mix, if you have a glove with some weights on the back (brass plate, almost gauntlet style) but it doesn't have to be as intricate.. more ornamental.  then add a smallish chain from the glove that would go up your sleeve through a couple of velcro fasteners. 
the chain would look ornamental when worn normally, but is also detachable so that the glove turns into a weight on the end of a chain.

fancy animatronic experts could make the hand open/close using a remote control wire threaded through the chain, then you could use it to retrieve things from a distance. ;-)

so, there you have some basic -> fancy steps. :-)
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« Reply #274 on: March 22, 2009, 10:17:47 pm »

well, certainly a lot of things covered here.
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned  blackjack. 
easy to make with some leather and ball bearing (or almost anything inside, but I lik eball bearings)



http://www.donrearic.com/impacttools.html was some pages on improvised/impac weapons etc weapons, including blackjacks and saps.  The link to the cane fighting was posted earlier by Glass, but they have some other interesting pages.

I remember having my lug skudded by a glove with a iron liggy (ballbearing) in it and it didn't half hit hard.  Reading the bit about sap gloves on that site reminded me of that.
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