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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2008, 09:07:17 pm »
Bones contain compounds of phosphorous...
A jar of bones! Perfect! Thankyou :D (I acctually have a good source of 80 year old bones!)

Any more ideas for phosphorous compounds will be apreciated too :)
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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2008, 09:09:59 pm »
Scrape it off old school matches?
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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2008, 09:10:09 pm »

A jar of bones! Perfect! Thankyou :D (I acctually have a good source of 80 year old bones!)


not your grandmother i hope . . .

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2008, 09:17:51 pm »
Bones contain compounds of phosphorous...
A jar of bones! Perfect! Thankyou :D (I acctually have a good source of 80 year old bones!)

Any more ideas for phosphorous compounds will be apreciated too :)

I think it's calcium phosphate that's in bones. Sadly, my vaguely-remembered AS-level chemistry runs out before I remember how to get rid of the calcium...

I'm not sure whether pink-tipped matches contain phosphorous. Then again, i guess pigmentaton is arbitrary...


Edit! START BY ROASTIN' THEM!
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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2008, 09:24:12 pm »
Any more ideas for phosphorous compounds will be apreciated too :)

   You can produce elemental Phosphorus from urine ... You have to evaporate it and reduce the precipitate with charcoal . It was how the Phosphorus was discovered by Henning Brandt during his search for Philosopher's Stone.

    Do you plan to finish your project using large amounts of electricity or use a more traditional approach - The Aemeth Sign ?
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« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2008, 09:27:25 pm »
I know it's possible to extrace DNA using cold, salty water, soap, gin and spit, which might help.

Also.

The PPM of phosphorous in urine must be minute...bones, man! bones!

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2008, 09:40:42 pm »
Okay a bottle of roasted bone sounds good to me :)
I'll do it at the same time as the limestone ;)

A jar of bones! Perfect! Thankyou :D (I acctually have a good source of 80 year old bones!)
not your grandmother i hope . . .
No, an archæological dig- 1920's dump! They threw away alot of bones :)

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« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2008, 09:44:57 pm »
I'd advise against that, on hte grounds of cross-contamination.

No I wouldn't. it's all going to be used for the same abominable process, after all. Just grind the resultant powders up well when they've baked enough. It's hard enough to create hideous monstrosities when the pwoders involved are finely ground, nevermind when they're chunky and hot from the fire..

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2008, 09:47:55 pm »
Does no one care about my poor spider  ???

Perhaps your spider has plans on the world, and has seen fit to remove one of its legs because it makes it easier to complete its heinous activities. I know I would.

Remove someone else's leg, that is.


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« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2008, 09:50:04 pm »
Certainly not. It's still got five more legs than I have.

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« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2008, 09:57:02 pm »
Good point Sir Nik :D
It does seem to be doing okay, although if I didn't know better, exhibiting symptoms of phantom limb syndrome.
It appears that it got the missing leg caught in it's own web, although it doesn't even look like it tried to pull it out so I'm guessing; It was stuck, then the spider lurched after a fly/woodlouse which happened onto it's web and this sudden movement dislocated and disconnected it's leg :(

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« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2008, 09:59:32 pm »
I think the general idea is: If a limb comes off and the creature doesn't immediately die, coming-off was probably intended, at some level.

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2008, 10:05:47 pm »
I´d like to try and breed spiders in an oxygenated tank. See how big I can get them.

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2008, 10:07:02 pm »
Is it the type where the leg will grow back?

Which brings me on to the wonders of spray-on skin, and growing ears on the backs of mice. Does anybody think that some bodyparts were in really stupid areas to start with and would much prefer them to be placed in other areas of their body?

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2008, 10:13:17 pm »
Is it the type where the leg will grow back?

Which brings me on to the wonders of spray-on skin, and growing ears on the backs of mice. Does anybody think that some bodyparts were in really stupid areas to start with and would much prefer them to be placed in other areas of their body?
No spider's legs don't grow back :(

I don't want to move my body parts but I do want 4 arms. I often find myself holding masses of delicate electronics in place only to find that now I can't pick my soldering iron up to solder them in place...
I do have one of these helping hand tools but sometimes it just doesn't do the job extra arms could!

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2008, 03:35:39 am »
... Does anybody think that some bodyparts were in really stupid areas to start with and would much prefer them to be placed in other areas of their body?
...I don't want to move my body parts but I do want 4 arms. I often find myself holding masses of delicate electronics in place only to find that now I can't pick my soldering iron up to solder them in place...

I've been saying for thirty years that only two arms was a really bad engineering decision.

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2008, 03:59:28 pm »
I got bored and made this;




And an old-timey colour scheme version:





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« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2008, 06:00:02 pm »
I do like the font you've used for that! The colour scheme in the first is very similar to Vernian Process' logo though (not necessarily a bad thing, but just pointing that out) :)

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Re: The Prometheus Club - a gentlemen´s club for mad scientists
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2008, 06:41:35 pm »
I know I've arrived a bit late to the party, but I hope I'll be welcome all the same...

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« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2008, 07:00:20 pm »
I know I've arrived a bit late to the party, but I hope I'll be welcome all the same...
In order to amend your lateness you must bring us all something mad sciencey to gawk at ;)


I do like the font you've used for that! The colour scheme in the first is very similar to Vernian Process' logo though (not necessarily a bad thing, but just pointing that out) :)
Thankyou, I do like green and black :3 especially that shade,  slightly dark yet vibrant green.
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« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2008, 09:05:02 pm »
I was about to suggest replacing the black with brass, but then it would look too much like John Deere's color scheme...

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« Reply #71 on: July 18, 2008, 03:26:28 am »
I was about to suggest replacing the black with brass, but then it would look too much like John Deere's color scheme...
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« Reply #72 on: July 18, 2008, 01:20:48 pm »
Let´s get back to experiments. Regarding a brain in a jar, I was thinking about how it would control things. You have probably heard about the blind fellow who had a camera hooked into his brain and was able to see. Perhaps the same could be used here. The parts of the brain responsible for locomotion, could have something plugged in, connected to perhaps a robotic body or vehicle. Hopefully the brain would then be able to learn how to control it.

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« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2008, 01:53:28 pm »
Let´s get back to experiments. Regarding a brain in a jar, I was thinking about how it would control things. You have probably heard about the blind fellow who had a camera hooked into his brain and was able to see. Perhaps the same could be used here. The parts of the brain responsible for locomotion, could have something plugged in, connected to perhaps a robotic body or vehicle. Hopefully the brain would then be able to learn how to control it.

Wasn't there something they did recently that was similar, regarding monkeys? They had a robotic arm rigged up to a monkey, and the monkey was able to control via thought the arm, so it would pick up food and put it in front of them.

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« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2008, 01:55:34 pm »
Oh yes that is true. I guess we have proof of principle then. A monkey brain would probably also be best for the first experiments.