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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2008, 03:59:38 pm »

Romanian, it's my native language of course. i took that to the level of using several odd words in my daily speech.... then german... i learned that for 16 years now, if you count kindergardenn too..... some might say it is my second language, but i tend to argue, because due to the large english literature and movies i have consumed, i find myself thinking english a lot.... only recently though... perhaps it will pass.... and then, disregarding the criteria...i can have quite decent conversation in italian, because i spent two months there, and because it resembles so much to romanian..... i probably won't starve in france either, nor in hungaria. the last one is because my grandma is hungarian.... i once knew hungarian very well, but i forgot 90 percent of it...... that's about it...
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2008, 04:21:32 pm »

I speak German (of course), English and Dutch (I think my Dutch is better than my English), enough French to become dangerous. At school I had latin, but I forgot most. I've met very few Romans recently, I wonder why? I've started to learn Arabic, but I gave it up, it is very difficult, I have no time and I don't really need it. I still can read the letters. I also can read the cyrillic and greece alphabet, and ancient runes.
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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2008, 04:59:25 pm »

Dutch, English, can make myself understandable pretty well in German and can follow conversations, a little French, however reading it is easier, I can read Danish and most of Swedish (used to be able to speak some Danish, but that's half a life time ago). I've had a little bit of Latin in high school, but that's pretty much gone.
Trying to learn some Gaelic.

Yeah, written Danish and Swedish are more or less decipherable.. They have some similarities with Dutch and German. Oh, and Afrikaans of course.. almost forgot.. they got a bunch of funny words but reading a newspaper is no problem.

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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2008, 08:21:05 pm »

Zuid-Afrikaans you mean, like a oortrektrui is a sweater and a stortkappie is a showercap Cheesy I happen to know random words or one or two sentences in many language like Yugoslavian, Surinam, Antillian, Spanish, Hungarian, Zuid-Afrikaans... the joy of living in multi-cultural society, and being part Hungarian Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2008, 06:44:18 am »

...and being part Hungarian Tongue

Me too! Grin
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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2008, 10:02:03 am »

Ok this killed me today or rather yesterday
I am working in a theater which is performing My Fair Lady.
I hear this kid afterwards talking to his mother about some teacher who makes fun of a student, but the kid himself says it is because " He never bes quiet"
Oh, why can't they teach the students to speak?Huh?
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2008, 03:34:50 pm »

...and being part Hungarian Tongue

Me too! Grin

Really?  Cheesy My grandmother on mothers side is Hungarian  Cheesy
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2008, 03:43:26 pm »

Ok this killed me today or rather yesterday
I am working in a theater which is performing My Fair Lady.
I hear this kid afterwards talking to his mother about some teacher who makes fun of a student, but the kid himself says it is because " He never bes quiet"
Oh, why can't they teach the students to speak?Huh?

I once hear a little kid say "i'm being have"

It's almost painful...
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2008, 04:08:43 pm »

English.

I have no trouble with Lallans (Lowland Scots).

I could survive in French if I needed to.

I speak/read the odd word of Gaelic, German, Spanish, Dutch, Latin, Esperanto.

The local high school put on a play set in WWII England which drove me nuts with their pronunciation.  Leicester pronounced Lie kester, Cholmondleigh and Featherstonehaugh pronounced phonetically rather than as "chumley" and "fanshaw"...  I was tempted to give them a pronunciation guide.

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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2008, 05:12:28 pm »

I was tempted to give them a pronunciation guide.
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I would have boxed their ears!!
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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2008, 08:39:41 pm »

...and being part Hungarian Tongue

Me too! Grin

Really?  Cheesy My grandmother on mothers side is Hungarian  Cheesy

It's one generation further removed. My paternal grandmother's mother (my greatgrandmother) was Hungarian. Elizabetha Erny was her name, but I only knew her as Greatgrandma.
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2008, 09:33:38 pm »

I was tempted to give them a pronunciation guide.
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I count myself as slightly above-average in fluent English, well grounded (ie GCSE and AS level) in French, and increasingly well-learned in Latin (A-level Latinists FTW, I hear you cry).
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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2008, 10:42:43 pm »

I wish we had the same grading standards, not the rude baggage of S.A.T.s
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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2008, 02:34:02 am »

This is a very lengthy way to ask, but think of these when you answer,
"What languages do You know"?
American English, the prime form of American English, and some semblance of 'real' English.  I can also translate to and from Canadian in a pinch.  In a crisis, I can translate l337speak into English, though I cannot speak it without the aid of translation software.  When at the summit of Ballmer Peak, I can also speak Perl and C.  I recall bits of Latin, Polish, and Hebrew from my childhood, and I studied Spanish and Japanese for a time.
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« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2008, 05:01:17 am »

Ok this killed me today or rather yesterday
I am working in a theater which is performing My Fair Lady.
I hear this kid afterwards talking to his mother about some teacher who makes fun of a student, but the kid himself says it is because " He never bes quiet"
Oh, why can't they teach the students to speak?Huh?

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According to my Linguistics TA, who was studying to become a developmental linguistic pathologist or some such, this behaviour is called "regularization" and is a normal phase in a child's liguistic development, depending on the age of the child. (I'm guessing the child in question was fairly young?)

What happens (AIUI) is this: When a child begins learning to conjugate verbs, he learns each verb in isolation. That is to say, no connection is made between the corresponding conjugate forms of (for instance) "open" and "close" (both regular verbs). At some point, though, the child's brain grabs hold of the pattern which regular verbs follow (open/opens/opening/opened = close/closes/closing/closed) and learns how to conjugate previously-unknown verbs (eg. spill/spills/spilling/spilled, to continue the example).

The problem (which really isn't a problem, per se) is that the kid hasn't yet grokked that there is such a thing as an irregular verb which does not follow this first rule, and so all verbs are conjugated regularly and we hear such abominations as "run/runs/running/runned", "go/goes/going/goed", and "be/bes/being/beed".

I don't recall how long this phase is supposed to last, but I believe it is usually a matter of a few months before the child begins to absorb the more-complex grammar of irregular verbs. Unless the parents are pathologically inarticulate, it will happen, and it will happen when it happens.
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« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2008, 07:10:23 am »

...and being part Hungarian Tongue

Me too! Grin

Really?  Cheesy My grandmother on mothers side is Hungarian  Cheesy

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« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2008, 06:03:51 pm »

Damn, I'm German enough to be rated first-class Aryan. Bleh. Give me mudblood any day!

Native tongue is German, but I'm quite proficient in English.
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« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2008, 07:07:58 pm »

Damn, I'm German enough to be rated first-class Aryan. Bleh. Give me mudblood any day!

Native tongue is German, but I'm quite proficient in English.

I've seen the "Arierausweise" for both of my grandparents weddings. So, as far as those times are concerned, I'm aryan, but I'm not.
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« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2008, 08:04:11 pm »

I read this as "Linguistic Mystery Thread".

That sounds like an interesting thread.
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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2008, 10:39:30 pm »

I propose a linguistic mystery thread, where each entrant must speak in some obscure language, creole or dialect, to the exclusion of all understanding Smiley Dibs on nadsat Tongue
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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2008, 09:06:07 am »

Um...

Well, I'm only fluent in English, but I know various bits of:

Italian
French
Idonesian
Spanish
German
and I am going to learn Finnish if it kills me.
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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2008, 09:36:29 am »

and I am going to learn Finnish if it kills me.

But then you'd be Finnished...

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« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2008, 10:20:47 am »

Quite alright.

For some reason I wasn't expecting that one  Grin
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« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2008, 11:34:24 am »

By those criteria, English only. I can't include Latin anymore, not that it helps.

I know "tourist level" French and Italian, and can figure out enough German to get away with using German data books for chemistry... but that really doesn't count at all.

Monolingual, and not American, thankyou very much.
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« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2008, 11:46:02 am »

At least to myself I hold the notion of Mastery over English though I'm sure a Brit could take me down a few notches in that arena.

I took 2 years of French waaay back in high school but I can normally read it okay (or at least pick out the meanings.)

I've taken 3 years of Mandarin Chinese along with a semester spent overseas in Qingdao, China and so for a while I was able to communicate conversationally in Chinese with relative ease. While I do not study it so much anymore, I still tend to use it everyday, peppering my sentences with Chinese words and phrases here and there. While in China, I picked up a few phrases in Korean, Japanese, Thai, German, French, and British English and so I use them to some degree as well.
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