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« Reply #400 on: October 21, 2012, 11:26:08 pm »

Would that be classed as an offensive weapon in England?
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« Reply #401 on: October 21, 2012, 11:52:26 pm »

Would that be classed as an offensive weapon in England?

Good question, I'm not up on the laws across the pond
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« Reply #402 on: October 22, 2012, 12:03:11 am »

Would that be classed as an offensive weapon in England?

Quite probably, the law is there to protect and serve, they protect you from hurting yourself with your own walking stick and then serve you with a court order Grin
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« Reply #403 on: October 22, 2012, 02:03:00 am »

Nevertheless, it's absolutely striking, superbill!
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« Reply #404 on: October 22, 2012, 02:36:37 am »

Nevertheless, it's absolutely striking, superbill!

Pun intended I'm sure Wink thank you!
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« Reply #405 on: October 22, 2012, 05:16:11 am »

Uncertain this may have been discussed so please excuse any repetition.

I'm wondering how effective a weapon would be of a compression spring driven rod, such concealed inside the shaft of a cane.

Not suggesting anything as dramatic as a KGB 'spring knife' but the ability of the tip, say a steel ball bearing or some such, acting like a modern window breaker rescue tool.

A heavily compressed spring should deliver a crushing amount of impact, no pun intended.
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« Reply #406 on: October 22, 2012, 06:08:01 am »

Something along the lines of an automatic centrepunch perhaps?
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« Reply #407 on: October 22, 2012, 03:21:20 pm »

Would that be classed as an offensive weapon in England?

If one's name was 'Maxwell'...

Excellent concept neatly executed - practical, functional as an engineering tool - and capable of generating large quantities of both envy and dismay (that one hadn't thought of it earlier).

Probably wouldn't get noticed as a weapon with the ball-pein head being covered by the hand, especially if one had the rulebook for SP-croquet in a vest-pocket....  Wink
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« Reply #408 on: October 22, 2012, 04:59:30 pm »

Would that be classed as an offensive weapon in England?

That's a very good question. Obviously if one went around bonking people on the head with it you'd be in hot water. But that's true of anything. Hammers in themselves are not illegal, neither are solid metal topped canes. There is the charge of "going equipped" which can be made in certain circumstances. But that applies to carrying tools with criminal intent which has to be proved. If one were to cause actual bodily harm in self defense with it, you could find it being categorized as a purpose built weapon, which could well go against you in court. But as a novelty cane in it's own right it's a bit of a grey area I suspect.
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« Reply #409 on: October 22, 2012, 08:50:24 pm »

[quote author=Argus Fairbrass link=topic=8004.msg816501#msg816501 date=1350921570  "..... There is the charge of "going equipped" which can be made in certain circumstances. ....."[/quote]

I'm wondering how that particular ordnance is applied to a person possessing skills of unarmed combat such as in the martial arts.
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« Reply #410 on: October 23, 2012, 01:55:49 am »

I'm no lawyer, but regarding a registered martial artist, I suspect that technically could incur a charge of assault with a deadly weapon, again very much depending on circumstances. Going equipped tends to be linked to burglary or breaking and entering. Intent has to be clearly shown for it to stick.

In terms of self defense, again often a grey area (particularly as regards exactly what constitutes minimum force for example). Each case has to be judged on it's own merits. There are however some things (such as the use of firearms) on which the law is pretty cut and dried, and it seems remains uncompromising regardless of circumstance.

Unfortunately that also most definitely applies to sword canes.
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« Reply #411 on: June 05, 2013, 06:40:55 am »

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« Reply #412 on: June 05, 2013, 07:56:31 am »

The very thing.  On a side note, In the renaissance a gentleman had his surveying equipment cunningly disguised as a dagger to look less threatening, how times change.
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« Reply #413 on: June 05, 2013, 09:35:05 am »

I want a bamboo walking stick with a blowgun hidden in it.
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« Reply #414 on: June 05, 2013, 11:34:14 am »

You mean to say you don't already have one?  I am astonished sir.
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« Reply #415 on: June 05, 2013, 12:13:58 pm »

I've made a fair few sticks in the past but I'm finding it stupidly difficult to find any decent shanks here in Australia. I am currently using the only one of my sticks to make it here from England as my back's bad and it has become a necessity but I would dearly love to make a few more, and more steamy, variants. Does anyone know where I can find shanks here in oz?
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« Reply #416 on: June 05, 2013, 03:45:50 pm »

I've made a fair few sticks in the past but I'm finding it stupidly difficult to find any decent shanks here in Australia. I am currently using the only one of my sticks to make it here from England as my back's bad and it has become a necessity but I would dearly love to make a few more, and more steamy, variants. Does anyone know where I can find shanks here in oz?

Shanks in oz? Are you telling me one of the chief growers of some of the hardest woods ON THE PLANET. Has difficulty getting said resource to even it's own population?

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Your country is repleat with woods of a density that would put iron bars to shame!



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« Reply #417 on: June 05, 2013, 04:15:42 pm »

Now try getting shanks, not timber. There's nowt here with a decent bark like Hazel either, most trees here shed bark like paper and have to be stripped. I have no clue where I could legally harvest shanks from or what the good woods here look like - I'm a Pom, not an Aussie Cheesy

The advice I've received from most people has been to forget trying to make sticks the English way and just stick to turned shanks (very expensive, if you can even find them) or harvest from the wild which I don't want to do without a clear understanding of what I'm collecting and what impact I'm going to have on the ecology of the area. It may be sub-tropical here but the ecology is much more precarious than back home in Blighty so I'd rather be safe than sorry! If anyone does know of a reasonably priced stickmaking supplier here though I'll be overjoyed to hear it!
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« Reply #418 on: June 06, 2013, 12:34:20 am »

or harvest from the wild which I don't want to do without a clear understanding of what I'm collecting and what impact I'm going to have on the ecology of the area. It may be sub-tropical here but the ecology is much more precarious than back home in Blighty so I'd rather be safe than sorry!

I sadly have nothing to add but I want to say I have complete respect for you for this these lines.
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« Reply #419 on: June 06, 2013, 02:48:10 am »

Smiley Thanks Dex
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« Reply #420 on: November 27, 2013, 02:59:10 am »

The latest novelty cane that I made for fun and sold to a disabled person who collects canes. The bowl on the Oriental style pipe unscrews from the stem and fits inside the knob, and the stem, of course, fits in a hole down the shaft of the cane. Tight and padded so it doesn't rattle.

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« Reply #421 on: November 27, 2013, 02:13:21 pm »

A simple and pleasing shape, nice!

Did you, also, make the pipe?
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« Reply #422 on: November 27, 2013, 02:32:21 pm »

No, the pipe is just something I found online somewhere.
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« Reply #423 on: December 01, 2013, 03:30:19 am »

The latest novelty cane that I made for fun and sold to a disabled person who collects canes. The bowl on the Oriental style pipe unscrews from the stem and fits inside the knob, and the stem, of course, fits in a hole down the shaft of the cane. Tight and padded so it doesn't rattle.




Very nice groomporter!

I apoligize if this has already been suggested but perhaps a hollowed out cane with lenses that could also be a Kaleidoscope.
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« Reply #424 on: March 11, 2014, 06:07:24 pm »

This problem requires an eloquent solution. There must be a way of ethically sourcing sticks from the rainforest. As long as a certain percentage of any profits made go back into the sustained preservation of said forest.

I will have a chat with an ecologist who knows a thing or two about oz and get back to you.

Now try getting shanks, not timber. There's nowt here with a decent bark like Hazel either, most trees here shed bark like paper and have to be stripped. I have no clue where I could legally harvest shanks from or what the good woods here look like - I'm a Pom, not an Aussie Cheesy

The advice I've received from most people has been to forget trying to make sticks the English way and just stick to turned shanks (very expensive, if you can even find them) or harvest from the wild which I don't want to do without a clear understanding of what I'm collecting and what impact I'm going to have on the ecology of the area. It may be sub-tropical here but the ecology is much more precarious than back home in Blighty so I'd rather be safe than sorry! If anyone does know of a reasonably priced stickmaking supplier here though I'll be overjoyed to hear it!
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