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kyriu
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« on: March 11, 2007, 10:11:34 pm »

I was always fascinated by armoured trains, especially in Russia (maybe someone here has also read Corto Maltese). Anyway I've crossed from the wikipedia link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armoured_train

to some russian train listings in

http://www.tankmuseum.ru/train.html

where you can find a link to train steam engines. the link is referred as:

The Russian steam-engines, WWI-WWII (some of them were reserved for the post nuclear war period)

neat, ahn?
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Lasairfion
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2007, 11:34:55 pm »

I can't begin to say how much I love Corto Maltese.

I tend to read the original French versions although I have a number of translations. I also have a 'commentary' by Hugo Pratt on Saint Exupéry and The little Prince; a book somewhat special to me.

Did you know there's an animated film being done? I have the Delcroix film-book about "La Cour Secrete des Arcanes" (un film de Pascal Morelli) which is the film's title. The section at the back, "Avril 2002" has a wonderful picture of a massive armoured rail cannon which is perhaps what you are referring to, from "Corto Maltese en Sibérie"? At least I think so. My memory is a little faulty.

My favourites are probably either "La Balade de la Mer Salée" (Ballad of the Salt Sea) or "Les Celtiques" (The Celts), particularly the two sections: "A Mid-Winter Morn's Dream" and "Concerto in O Minor for Harp and Nitroglycerine".

For those (shock horror) not familiar with these books:

http://membres.lycos.fr/shamael/
http://dardel.info/corto/Corto.html
http://home.c2i.net/tzara/pratt/
http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.6/3.6pages/3.6bekinscorto.html


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kiskolou
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2007, 11:41:30 pm »

How often were armored trains really used in warfare? Wikipedia doesn't show many examples...

They are cool however.
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Lasairfion
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2007, 11:51:53 pm »

As far as I thought armoured trains were pretty much used throughout the wars. After all, trains were prime targets so many were armoured up. How much armour is the question I guess.

Here's that picture: (2 parts)





And the book:

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m3ntor
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2007, 06:04:02 am »

This seems like the right thread to ask in: Does anyone have any information regarding a 'Second battle of Plovdiv', circa 1899? Such as if such a battle took place?
I heard it was a battle between Ottoman Armoured trains and Austro-Hungarian Zeppelin squadrons (!), and got all excited, but I haven't been able to find any more.
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kyriu
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2007, 11:35:52 am »

I can't begin to say how much I love Corto Maltese.

I tend to read the original French versions although I have a number of translations. I also have a 'commentary' by Hugo Pratt on Saint Exupéry and The little Prince; a book somewhat special to me.

Did you know there's an animated film being done? I have the Delcroix film-book about "La Cour Secrete des Arcanes" (un film de Pascal Morelli) which is the film's title. The section at the back, "Avril 2002" has a wonderful picture of a massive armoured rail cannon which is perhaps what you are referring to, from "Corto Maltese en Sibérie"? At least I think so. My memory is a little faulty.


There where several made but I not very found of them. My favorite book is "Le maison caché de Sarmancand" (don't know the english title). I have proposed (and achieved) to make a film cicle of Hugo Pratt related films at the Portuguese Museum of Cinema, very interesting. Corto was modelled after Burt Lancaster? funny, funny. I also really like "The desert scorpions"...
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OHebel Wring
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 01:46:11 pm »

Here in Germany I got talking to an engineer during the war.  He said, basically, the allies just waited for them to chug down the tracks and then would fill the boiler full of holes.  Not only did this eliminate the threat of the train, but it also closed the tracks (thus closing down all transportation from where the tracks came from to where the tracks led) until they sent out a towing engine, and then towed it back to the repair facilities, etc.

I said, "but what about the armor?"

He said, "they just used bigger bullets...  you can always make bigger bullets"

Although super-cool looking, they seemed to be pretty aweful in application
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2007, 07:59:27 pm »

What of this armoured train from the vintage game Transarctica

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Lasairfion
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2007, 10:07:24 pm »

Oh I do like that, it's so... evil looking. Like a steam locomotive possessed!
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