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Author Topic: Herr Döktor's new weapon: THE STEAM PISTOL-FINISHED PICTURES PAGE 9!  (Read 19949 times)
Otto Von Pifka
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« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2009, 12:33:01 am »

how about something with a more rounded bottom, with an area to grip to remove the clip? sort of like the butt of a luger but a bit more rounded, like an old toaster?

does the magazine need to be so long, front to back? its just the actual projectile, without a case to hold cordite.
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« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2009, 12:35:04 am »

True, Mr. von PIfka- 'tis only a sketch model mag, I'm thinking of a more detailed and fluid design for the actual magazines...
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« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2009, 12:43:32 am »

Good morning, Herr Doktor. May I say that I have followed your many contraptions with awe and you're hardly doing anything to stop that trend in your production of this little beauty. Excellent stuff and for what it's worth...I particularly like the double underslung mags. Still reeeling from the account of your helmet build too...superb! (do you really have room for all this wonderment?..there's plenty of space here at Combustable Galleon should you need storage Wink
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« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2009, 02:02:23 am »

The steam pistol is very cool!! Very creative, nicely done.
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« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2009, 05:00:00 am »

I rather like the double mag under the pistol, myself...

Yes, I agree. It has the right amount of non-conformism from the duplitude, but not too much, as would be added by having them on top.

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« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2009, 03:19:16 pm »

If she's ever going to be holstered, the single mag in front of the trigger guard is going to make finding (or making) your holster much easier.  Otherwise I think the two mags on the bottom is the most attractive configuration.  It covers more of the surface area of the champaigne flute shape, making that whole structure more consistently embellished than the single mag, and leaves the details on the top visible from more angles than the top load mags.  The top load might also make the tanks harder for the operator to fill, as they appear in the pictures to loom over the caps a bit.  Mind, if the parts are delicate and you anticipate the prop being handled a lot, you might like to have those up top to protect the excellent detail work you've done up there.

Whichever one you choose, she's really shaping up into a beautiful prop!
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« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2009, 03:44:42 pm »

Another good point re the underslung mags could be that they (along with the grip) could form a pretty nifty stand!
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« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2009, 09:00:26 pm »


i rather like the double mag under the pistol, myself...[/spoiler]


As do I.
Add a few spikes around the muzzle and a yellow button on the side and you'd have a fine steampunk homage
to a wonderful weapon from Fifth Element!

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« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2009, 10:46:10 pm »

Herr Doktor, I may be suffering from a little "straight line thinking" but double magazines could generate difficulties with the projectile feed, as you would require either twin feeds into the chamber, taking projectiles alternatly from each magazine or sequentially (ie emptying one magazine entirely, then the other) or a single feed that could be rotated to feed from either magazine.

Alternately as the magazines would only hold projectiles (no cartridge) they would be relatively light so it would be feasable to mount a spare magazine on the weapon allowing a quick change/reload.

This is usually avoided in conventional pistols due to the weight of a full magazine and the fact that this would vary depending on the load, adversly affecting balance and therefore accuracy.
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« Reply #59 on: April 01, 2009, 12:30:50 am »

Vis the double magazine: I'm thinking along the lines of the machine gun that fired two different rounds: the Puckle Gun- spherical for Christian enemies (cleaner wound, less pain) and cubic for heathens (messy wound, more pain), except in this case spheres for Earth creatures, square for Extra Terrestrials, as we just aren't sure what stops 'em!

This would also mean two different shaped mags, and a selector switch/slide on the mid section.

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« Reply #60 on: April 01, 2009, 12:35:22 am »

Vis the double magazine: I'm thinking along the lines of the machine gun that fired two different rounds: the Puckle Gun- spherical for Christian enemies (cleaner wound, less pain) and cubic for heathens (messy wound, more pain)



How very non discriminatory.
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« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2009, 12:45:00 am »

Given the delightfully flowing lines of the beast, I would suggest that a drum magazine may be more in keeping.

Sticks are just too, well, sticky.

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« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2009, 10:17:24 am »

Vis the double magazine: I'm thinking along the lines of the machine gun that fired two different rounds: the Puckle Gun- spherical for Christian enemies (cleaner wound, less pain) and cubic for heathens (messy wound, more pain), except in this case spheres for Earth creatures, square for Extra Terrestrials, as we just aren't sure what stops 'em!

This would also mean two different shaped mags, and a selector switch/slide on the mid section.

Smiley


Selectable role appropriate ammunition - excellent idea
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« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2009, 10:28:44 am »

Vis the double magazine: I'm thinking along the lines of the machine gun that fired two different rounds: the Puckle Gun- spherical for Christian enemies (cleaner wound, less pain) and cubic for heathens (messy wound, more pain), except in this case spheres for Earth creatures, square for Extra Terrestrials, as we just aren't sure what stops 'em!

This would also mean two different shaped mags, and a selector switch/slide on the mid section.

Smiley


Hahah...love the distinction Cheesy Personally I'd reserve square (maybe even star-shaped) for Christians but that may just be due to the fact that I'm more alien by birth.
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« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2009, 10:45:31 am »

The distinction was made by James Puckle himself. Going along these lines, you should use replacement cylinders with special ammunitions for several types of enemy.
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« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2009, 11:14:29 am »



Hahah...love the distinction Cheesy Personally I'd reserve square (maybe even star-shaped) for Christians but that may just be due to the fact that I'm more alien by birth.
careful, we wouldnt want this thread to be locked.
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« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2009, 11:19:29 am »

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« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2009, 05:00:37 pm »



Hahah...love the distinction Cheesy Personally I'd reserve square (maybe even star-shaped) for Christians but that may just be due to the fact that I'm more alien by birth.
careful, we wouldnt want this thread to be locked.

He's right.  Mention of aliens is a real no-no.

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« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2009, 08:58:52 pm »

What about fundum-dumentalists?

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« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2009, 10:02:57 pm »

Wouldn't you use a dum-dum bullet on a fundum-dumentalist?

(not a religous/derogatory comment to anyone)
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« Reply #70 on: April 02, 2009, 01:17:36 am »

I agree on selectable roles. A nice selection of small glass scale baubles with different ingredients, Holy Water, Silver Nitrate, Garlic oil, etc. You already have the steam for propellant so you just need the delivered ingredients and a suitable holding vessel that would shatter on impact.

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« Reply #71 on: April 02, 2009, 01:36:26 am »

Dok,

Once again, outstanding work! I love the little hatches on the side chambers. Can't wait to see it painted.
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« Reply #72 on: April 02, 2009, 03:25:05 am »

I agree on selectable roles. A nice selection of small glass scale baubles with different ingredients, Holy Water, Silver Nitrate, Garlic oil, etc. You already have the steam for propellant so you just need the delivered ingredients and a suitable holding vessel that would shatter on impact.

john
wouldnt the pressure from the initial blast be enough to break the glass ampule?
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« Reply #73 on: April 02, 2009, 03:36:42 am »

I agree on selectable roles. A nice selection of small glass scale baubles with different ingredients, Holy Water, Silver Nitrate, Garlic oil, etc. You already have the steam for propellant so you just need the delivered ingredients and a suitable holding vessel that would shatter on impact.

john
wouldnt the pressure from the initial blast be enough to break the glass ampule?
Not if it was in a..damn, I have just drawn a blank. The things what they put bullets in that are not the right size for the barrel to ensure a snug fit, which falls away as the projectile exists? Something starting with an "S" I think..
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« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2009, 04:06:00 am »

well along the select a bullet idea, how about a rotary drum on top, with a window and rows of different ammo that you can rotate to select? like the label drum on a label maker
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