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Author Topic: Herr Döktor's new weapon: THE STEAM PISTOL-FINISHED PICTURES PAGE 9!  (Read 20629 times)
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« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2009, 04:58:04 am »

wouldnt the pressure from the initial blast be enough to break the glass ampule?
Not if it was in a..damn, I have just drawn a blank. The things what they put bullets in that are not the right size for the barrel to ensure a snug fit, which falls away as the projectile exists? Something starting with an "S" I think..

"Discarding Sabot" round?
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« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2009, 10:11:43 am »

Maybe a drum with selectable munitions, combined with a more standard magazine for standard ammo? You don't need to use the special ones to stop your standard robber.
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« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2009, 10:28:49 am »

wouldnt the pressure from the initial blast be enough to break the glass ampule?
Not if it was in a..damn, I have just drawn a blank. The things what they put bullets in that are not the right size for the barrel to ensure a snug fit, which falls away as the projectile exists? Something starting with an "S" I think..

"Discarding Sabot" round?
Precisely!
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« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2009, 07:11:46 pm »

Look great so far Herr Döktor!

I have to concur on the drum idea, or possible cylindrical ammo tube similar to a calico?  Just a thought =D
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« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2009, 02:43:41 am »

Another thought. How about ad rum magazine with a Nemo-esque look? Something in the vein of Nautilus?

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« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2009, 05:25:50 am »

I'm afraid drum magazines always give a Tommy-gun look, which you have to live with or go for some other type of mag.

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« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2009, 01:14:36 pm »

A horizontal drum is usually reffered to as a cassette style I think. 
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« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2009, 06:16:39 pm »

A horizontal drum is usually reffered to as a cassette style I think. 

Pan magazine.
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« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2009, 06:40:25 pm »

Zamfir would be pleased
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« Reply #84 on: April 07, 2009, 12:34:56 am »

I've taken on board everything suggested so far, and come up with this:



The cubed round mag is in the foreground, the spherical round mag behind; also, you can just see the selector switch above the tanks, this, when moved from left to right and back again, opens an aperture for each mag in turn.



A different view, showing both mags slightly better.

I still need to add some brass tube to each mag- this is to carry some of the pressurised steam to force the next round into the chamber, also I need to make the mountings for the mags more secure- at the moment, all that's keeping them in place is friction, I may install spring loaded catches...
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« Reply #85 on: April 07, 2009, 12:55:20 am »

Very nice; are the front halves of the mags for stiffening and serving as handles? Also, if (presumably) the mags come off, you should think what kind of quick-change connector to put on the steam tube. Perhaps the mags could have a section of tube that goes from the bottom up to the attach point, and thus would attach as you slotted it in. That might not be as cool as free tubes, though...of course, the heat of the tubes argues against their being out in the open...

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« Reply #86 on: April 07, 2009, 11:23:07 am »

Excellent design for the magazines, especially the shaped grip for easy handling in the heat of combat (and I would assume the heat emited by the weapon), however a steam feed for raising the projectiles could be very difficult to attach/re-attach, as it would appear the magazines would have to be removed for re-loading (like a modern magazine fed sub-machine gun or pistol) raher than acting as a fixed storage chamber, such as the Lee Enfield .303 SMLE rifle.
May I suggest springs may be more effective, being self contained to the magazine assembly, possibly allowing the magazine housings to be drilled to allow assessment of the number of remaining projectiles.
Unless your plan is to have a fixed steam feed acting on a removable magiazine, possibly engaging with a latch on the outide of the magazine , raising the projectiles inside, the magazine easily clipping into the steam fed projectile feed assembly.
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« Reply #87 on: April 07, 2009, 01:31:04 pm »

Leave it completely steam operated and allow it to become extremely hot during useage. I can allmost guarantee that you will be the only one in the heat of combat who will be wearing an oven mitt with a built in trigger finger. (similar to the extream cold weather mittens. used by the U.S. armed forces)
for example...
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_gear_gloves_mitts.php

This would keep your enemy from using your weapon against you in case of droppage.

Besides, imagine the floral patterns you could incorporate into such a fine mitten! Grin
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« Reply #88 on: April 07, 2009, 04:28:44 pm »

Again Döktor you have created something fantasmagorical in excellence kudos to you my good man
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« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2009, 07:07:22 pm »

Good points raised about the potential heat conduction, but as the spent steam would be cooled by the heat dissipators in front of the twin tanks, there shouldn't be too much of a problem...

Work continues, but last night I had the idea to make use of a camera flash gun to supply a muzzle flash: it would even make that rising hum as the gun recharged between shots...
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« Reply #90 on: April 08, 2009, 07:58:02 pm »

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...last night I had the idea to make use of a camera flash gun to supply a muzzle flash: it would even make that rising hum as the gun recharged between shots...

Utterly brilliant, Herr Döktor!

Ciao,
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« Reply #91 on: April 09, 2009, 07:11:55 am »

Once again, sir, I am truly impressed by your craftsmanship!  Looking forward to seeing it all painted up and shiny... or rusty?
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« Reply #92 on: April 10, 2009, 04:03:58 am »

Absolutely Smashing looking, can not wait to see it painted
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« Reply #93 on: April 10, 2009, 09:09:20 pm »

don't forget to add the rest of the camera too.

everyone smile and say "OH SHI....."  Grin 
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« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2009, 08:48:19 am »

but last night I had the idea to make use of a camera flash gun to supply a muzzle flash: it would even make that rising hum as the gun recharged between shots...

Blast!

And here I am trying to mount an old camera flash in the brass fire extinguisher on top of my blunderbuss build!

For the same purpose!

I will be interested to hear how it all goes with the camera flash in your raygun, my challenge is getting it to flash down a long barrel.

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« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2009, 09:46:19 am »

Maduncle,

If you can live with a bit of loss of intensity of the light, how about using a bundle of fibre-optic strands to channel the flash to the muzzle?
That way you can mount the flash gun in the most convenient place and avoid the business of having the discharge tube right up at the front end where it's a bit vulnerable.

Nothing worse than having all your light get stuck halfway down the barrel.

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« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2009, 01:23:11 pm »

Here is a video to check out for sound and lighting effects.  This is used on a Star Ward blaster but could easily be used for any weapon requiring lights and sounds.

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« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2009, 01:49:51 pm »

Maduncle,

If you can live with a bit of loss of intensity of the light, how about using a bundle of fibre-optic strands to channel the flash to the muzzle?
That way you can mount the flash gun in the most convenient place and avoid the business of having the discharge tube right up at the front end where it's a bit vulnerable.

Nothing worse than having all your light get stuck halfway down the barrel.

Dr. Q.

Such a good idea for so many projects there - pipe the light to where you want it!

My thanks.
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« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2009, 04:30:26 pm »

You should buy a small steamer for it- one of those tiny engines at model shops that create a fake steam for model trains (and they are very cheap). I think that your gun would look astounding with steam pouring from a small exhaust!
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« Reply #99 on: April 13, 2009, 07:56:25 pm »

FINISHED! Well, apart from the flash and the final colour, anyway:



The mags locate in brackets and clip into their mounts with a satisfying 'click', and I've added tubes to the mags to allow steam pressure to advance the rounds.

While I'm here, just for fun, here it is in its constituant parts:



I finally added the mix adjusting wheels, made from train wheels with a ring of tube, and painted up the handle in a faux wood finish, still working on the pressure dial decal, more as and when!

Smiley

PS: Y'know, I actually rather like it in grey...
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