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« on: January 21, 2018, 08:37:49 pm »

In a moment of self-reflection, I realized that despite magnificent hats being worn during the reign of Queen Victoria, there seems to be little variation in hats among the steampunk community. Sure there are goggles and pith helmets, but little else, in my observation.

So, I would like to start learning how to make hats to rectify this deficit. Unfortunately, I live in a country where hatmaking resources are scarce. About the most any craft store will offer is how to glue bits to a pre-made baseball cap. Any advice on where to acquire materials and/or training in the art of millinery?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2018, 09:35:18 pm »

Long long ago, someone whose name escapes me did make a top hat on this very forum - from foam sheet if I recall correctly.
I may have been moved, but the searc box may well find it.
I would suggest having a look in the Apparel section, I'm sure there are some hats in there.

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 11:24:40 pm »

Perhaps look for an online catalogue of hats first? Before making patterns for hats, one must find the proper name and use for hats! Usually all you hear is "Bowler" and "Top Hat," and perhaps for the more military minded, "Visor/Pill" hat, "Pickelhaube," and "Forage Cap." But I concurr, there are so many more. And some of the most obvious never make the presence, perhaps because we pigeon-hole Steampunk as being primarily British; for example, in spite of the presence of "Weird West" in Steampunk, I seldom ever hear about making a good Stetson Hat.

Mr. Groomporter posted this video in this forum recently, but I couldn’t find the thread. By serendipity I found it again online:

Historical hats



This below is the only non-top hat pattern that I found. To be honest, there must be other threads for "hats-made-from scratch" out there... but they're hard to find. Most of the threads involve modification rather than making.

Mr. Bo Ek's Pattern for Officer's Visor Cap
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,25843.0.html


And here are a few non-top hat threads (for modification purposes only)

Wilhelm's Hat and Helmet Modification Thread (so far only showing my concept for American/Prussian Airship Crew Pickelhaube/Aviator Cap)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,49464.0.html

Herr Döktor's Fez are Cool Thread
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24948.0.html

Alanis Binx's Aviator Hat Thread
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,47946.0.html

Gabrielle Messing's Steampunk Tricorn hat thread (for those 18th. C Steampunks)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30253.0.html

Mr. D. Oakes' 1839 Forage Cap thread (unfortunately pictures lost due to Photobucket's debacle)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,37607.0.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 11:03:14 pm »

Long long ago, someone whose name escapes me did make a top hat on this very forum - from foam sheet if I recall correctly.
I may have been moved, but the searc box may well find it.
I would suggest having a look in the Apparel section, I'm sure there are some hats in there.

HP

Hmm, I'm sure I could start with foam for practice, but I would like to work with proper materials to make a good hat.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 05:49:02 am »

Long long ago, someone whose name escapes me did make a top hat on this very forum - from foam sheet if I recall correctly.
I may have been moved, but the searc box may well find it.
I would suggest having a look in the Apparel section, I'm sure there are some hats in there.

HP

Hmm, I'm sure I could start with foam for practice, but I would like to work with proper materials to make a good hat.

Then you need to experiment with some felt and a steam iron and see what you can do.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 07:10:51 am »

Long long ago, someone whose name escapes me did make a top hat on this very forum - from foam sheet if I recall correctly.
I may have been moved, but the searc box may well find it.
I would suggest having a look in the Apparel section, I'm sure there are some hats in there.

HP


Hmm, I'm sure I could start with foam for practice, but I would like to work with proper materials to make a good hat.


This is the 2010 tutorial by Mr. Sam Watson, for a full size top hat made from wire and buckram (coarse) and finer buckram for crinolines. There's an incredible amount of work done here and he needed to use several types of needles, curved and straight, about a million pins as well as some glue. Several kinds of stitching techniques as well .This is a medium to advanced skill project (at least from my perspective this is way out of my comfort zone - but then again, my suede spats were not as hard to make as I originally thought):

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,27773.msg611763.html#msg611763


You asked:
Any advice on where to acquire materials and/or training in the art of millinery?


Mr. Watson wrote:
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This is the first hat I've ever made. I purchased my buckram online, and got enough to make lots of hats!  Smiley  I'm using the book From the Neck Up: An Illustrated Guide to Hatmaking, by Denise Dreher, and it is extremely descriptive.



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And this other tutorial from 2010 by Mr. Tom Banwell is for a leather top hat:
http://tombanwell.blogspot.com/2010/01/steampunk-leather-top-hat-tutorial.html

Comments on the tutorial were made here at brassgoggles:
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21608.0.html

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 09:23:08 am »

As we all know from the Jäger in Girl Genius, hats are cool. Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 04:03:58 pm »

I should have seen this thread before I made my first hat.
I was going for a flared top hat.
Started out with paper/papermaché but that wasn't solid enough and it tend to shrink on every coat of paper maché.
So I looked for another material, metal wire.
I made a mesh to keep the shape as I wanted. This worked well, but was a bit on the heavy side.
I kept the mesh as a base and used black sweatpants fabric to cover the hat.
Even though it was a bit heavy and (as I found out later) not fallproof, I liked my first attemt.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2018, 05:17:57 am »

You can get hat blanks from various suppliers in the US.

They are not suitable for top hats, but work well for felt type hats, from derbies to cowboy hats to tricorne and bicorne hats.

They are sold unshaped and unblocked and need to be steamed and shaped on a special head form.

They can be found by searching for “felt hat blanks” or “wool hat blanks.”

Two reputable suppliers I have dealt wih are “Hats by Leko”and “Judith M Millinery.”
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 06:18:19 am »

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