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Author Topic: Hand of Glory - folklore (dark arts?) expertise needed  (Read 4991 times)
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2007, 07:58:51 am »

I don't know much about Potter 'verse, but as to the historical kind:

While I do not care to go into great detail here (email me for more info), hands of glory are (WERE, I mean WERE) often used as candle holders.  Among their powers, they keep everyone in the house asleep, so who can see their light seems rather a moot point.  However, I think I remember a recipe for a candle whose light only the holder can see in the Greek Magical Papyri, so try looking there.

As I recall (book not handy now), _Ritual Magic_ by E. M. Butler has some good info, as does (book handy and quoted below) _Occultism, It's Theory and Practice_ by Sirdar Ikbal Ali Shah (one of my favorites.  my copy has no printing date info, but appears to be from around 1920ish)

"The famous Hand of Glory which was supposed to render the owner invisible, as well as put all members of the household hE wished to rob into a heavy slumber, is a great favorite among the grimoires.  (footnote:  An interesting link with this belief can be found in Indonesia: where a thief collects dust from a grave and throws it round thehouse of his victim to make the household sleep.)  ... [directions for manufacture from the _Little Albert_ grimoire]  ... [an antidote (really more of a ward)] ... [the story related before about the maid putting the flame out with milk] [another story of its use]..."  There is about 3 pages of info; I got tired of typing.  The book then wanders off onto other invisibility experiments.

As I understand it, the tallow the candle is made of is mostly made of the fat of the hanged man, beeswax, and sesame oil (not unbaptised babes; think how many babies you'd need to make five candles!)

Hope that helps.  I can try to scan out the pages if you need them, but it's a delicate book, so I might not be able to manage it.  Email me if you want more info.

On a vaguely related (slightly late-steampunky) note, Mercury dimes (1916-1946 US 10 cent coins.  They have a picture of winged Liberty on them) are often used in modern invisibility workings.  They are the most beautiful coin ever.  Mercury is (according to Edith Hamilton) the god of "mathematicians, theives, and other ne'er do wells".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mercury_dime.jpg

PS-PLEASE tell me why you want to know.  PLEASE. 
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2007, 01:27:06 pm »

Michael Palin did a splendid series called "Ripping Yarns", a series of 'boys own' style adventures, usually late Victorian / Edwardian in setting.     One was called "the curse of the claw"  wherein a stolen religious artifact brought destruction and pirennial disease.    Very very funny. believe it or not. 
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2007, 02:07:22 am »

Fiendish Curiosities offer a replica of a Hand of Glory. The blurb provides more background.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2007, 08:05:49 pm »

By most accounts, the preserved hand of a hanged criminal possesses the power to "freeze" people in their tracks and perhaps even unlock doors. ...

Post Script: I assure you, this is Steampunk-related.  You'll see in a few weeks... Grin

As I recall, we never did get an answer as to why you wanted info on Hands of Glory.  Can you tell yet?

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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2007, 08:13:16 pm »

The tallow candle variant of the hand of glory which Strange-Sara referred to in a previous post also features in the original  version of "The Wicker Man"
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2007, 08:45:02 pm »

By most accounts, the preserved hand of a hanged criminal possesses the power to "freeze" people in their tracks and perhaps even unlock doors. ...

Post Script: I assure you, this is Steampunk-related.  You'll see in a few weeks... Grin


As I recall, we never did get an answer as to why you wanted info on Hands of Glory.  Can you tell yet?



Oh yeah!  It was the Torch of Saint Dismas, featured on the main site a little while ago.  Thanks again for all your help!
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2007, 02:42:10 am »

I did see that episode of the Dresden Files, I really miss that show. More recently (meaning last week) the episode of Supernatural involved a Hand of glory as well. They gave a small blurb about the background and creation of one that has already been repeated several times in this very thread. Good episode though.

I am also reminded that our Jake STILL has not said what he plans on doing with such a creation... I share Tinkergirl's suspicions though. So, I am off to not only lock the doors of my workshop, but to pay certain people to cast several magical wards around the area as well.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2007, 05:03:01 am »

I am also reminded that our Jake STILL has not said what he plans on doing with such a creation... I share Tinkergirl's suspicions though. So, I am off to not only lock the doors of my workshop, but to pay certain people to cast several magical wards around the area as well.
I did to!  It's the post right above you! Wink
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2007, 05:40:17 am »

Still locking my doors and having wards cast.... no offense of course.  Wink
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