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Author Topic: Gentleman's Travel Wardrobe restoration help needed.  (Read 572 times)
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« on: December 05, 2016, 07:36:26 pm »

I have recently purchased a travel wardrobe that is in need of some care and restoration due to paint
What is a safe way to strip off the old paint?
(see attached image as photobucket is playing up)

BTW I pay 100 of the queens likenesses for it as it was raising money for the local steam railway.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2016, 09:57:03 pm »

ERRRR.....

CAREFULLY...............................after exchanging 100 lizzie's for that's how I would go, NO nitromoors, just a bit of gentle "Hot air gun"!!
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 10:13:13 pm »

TBH I wouldn't even use a hot air gun. The sort of heat those things kick out could easily damage the underlying wood and structure of the case.

If I were to do it, I'd look at using a chemical paint thinner/remover and a rag (having tested it on a small inconspicuous area first). Although if you've handed over that much for it, sandpaper and elbow grease might well be the best way.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 10:48:59 pm »

what's wrong with the paintjob it has.  The interior looks like fabric.  Didn't see an exterior pic.

Are you better off lightly sanding and repainting it?
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2016, 01:11:22 am »

What is everyone seeing there?!

Looks to me as the outside is painted metal or is it just silver painted wood?
Metal= just regular paint stripper and watch it while you do it.
Wood= "safe" paint stripper and keep an eye on it also.
Don't sand the wood unless it's an area that the stripper was difficult to use.

Apply by rag and test as stated, very good advice!
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2016, 05:49:51 am »

If it were mine I would take a trip to a museum and a word with one of their curators would not go amiss.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2016, 08:39:02 am »

Thats why I asked as a heat gun would be really bad.
Sorry cant get photobucket working so that the only image atm.

Yes the internal is fabric but the outside has been sprayed in sliver over a green but the green looks like it was just sprayed over to protect it.

I thought of nitro and promptly dismissed it as it's possibly more likely to cause more damage.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 04:59:26 pm »

I'd be wary of any chemicals or transferrable heat, etc getting to the fabric side through seepage or splash damage.

what do you hope to find under the 2 layers of paint that are protecting the metal from rust, etc?

it might be more worth it to sand off the brass bits and repaint the main body, knowing you've got solid layers of base coat helping to protect this antique.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 08:08:03 pm »

it might be more worth it to sand off the brass bits and repaint the main body, knowing you've got solid layers of base coat helping to protect this antique.

This
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2016, 06:30:14 am »

More photos of the exterior would be extremely useful - it is most efficacious to determine exactly what the "paint" is -
oil based, latex, enamel, or ... ?

the way I clean the outside of antiques is to start mild and go upwards.

First I try a little Dawn dishwashing soap & water and a toothbrush.
Next I try alcohol and a toothbrush.
Only then will I try the mildest of paint strippers, and even then on a small area first.

Many early finishes such as early varnishes, shellac, or lacquer were oil or alcohol based and can be readily removed with 90% alcohol, a toothbrush, and patience.

If you wish to try abbrasives, try 0000 grade steel wool and alcohol first; avoid sanding. "fine grade" 3M abrasive pads arre reasonably gentle also.

hope this helps
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2016, 12:35:54 pm »

You can tell the type of paint just by looking at it?!
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2016, 06:36:58 am »

You can tell the type of paint just by looking at it?!

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but speculating with nothing to look at is useless.

If there are any makers marks, dates, patents, any data is better than none.

if paint chips can be taken off of a metalic corner piece , for example, experts can make an eduated guess based on manufacturor, region, and date.

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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016, 08:01:13 am »

Whatever you do, BE CAREFUL! 

Too judicious with the chemical stripper and you could unbond the adhesive that holds the veneer onto the case interior, for example, and if the outside material is plywood or other laminate (meaning layers laminated together; despite the term, it is not strictly a late 20th century technique of dimensional material production), a similar effect could result. In regard to steel or brass or copper wools, or sandpapers (or any abrasive), be VERY careful; layers of veneer tended both then and now to be extremely thin, and it is more than possible to simply sand or wool away the outermost layer.  I know it sounds impossible, but I've seen it happen many times.
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